what have u guys exsperianced using prime Strength gains? like what did it add to bench squats... and how much weghit gain?
Well, even on steroids and pro hormones diet and training has to be good. This is not exclusive to PRIME.its a good product from all reviews but it isnt a ph or steroid if your diet is good and you train hard you will put up some numbers on it...
"No matter what they eat", that is a bold statement.i totally agree i wasn't trying to shoot prime down. I was just pointing out though how it is a good product, and the more you put into it the more you will get out. And you cant say steroids need a perfect diet i know guys who have taken them and no matter what they eat and it turns to muscle.
Yeah the guys on the Superdrol, Deca, etc. will make awesome gains. But they'll also have a litany of side effects to deal with and they'll lose some of their gains when they come off. That's what makes Prime so good - no side effects to deal with except an increased appetite and when you stop taking it you're not going to lose a pound of the weight you put on.basically from my experiences people who take roids have great results even if you train harder and eat healthy than them. I was probably to bold in my previous post. In the long run though with a product like prime if you do it right you can be just as built as the guys on roids.IMO
That's the ticket.. I am running mine right up to and including contest day, Prime makes you hard as a rock.My thoughts were to use Prime and AP throughout my prep. If they are what their worked up to be, then they should be a HUGE asset while dieting down.
I stock up during the sales...AP is another product I plan on using through prep. Especially during peak week...Im going to give it an early run to see what works best.
Unfortunately, prime seems like a money pit lol. Im wondering if the positives are worth the negatives (pricey) <shrugs> To early to tell
yah I can't blame Jacob, he does enough for us, the sales do come along once in a while when they do make sure you stock up and get a good stash going. I am a heavy user and I have never payed full price.I was trying to push for a twinpack sale. It was like 70$ for 2 prime and 1 ap. Unforunately they want nothing to do with it. Apparently Prime is selling like hotcakes which I dont doubt.
Amen to that!Heavy user lol
Well...Im just getting into week2 over here giving it a test run. $50 a bottle is pricey in my eyes and better yield some great results for me to continue buying it. Time will tell...
A big AND you have to pretty much run 2bottles...so coughing up ahundo lol I'll just wait and seeAmen to that!
As far as prime dosing, what are your guys thoughts on this:
Right now in beginning of 2nd week, dosing only 6 a day and will bump week 3 to 7 or 8, but anyhow...
Take 2 in morning with meal
1 Pre Workout
1 first meal after workout
1 second meal after workout
1 third or 4th meal after workout
Instead of dosing it in shorter spurts at a higher amount (2each meal), dosing it 1 pill more frequently will help keep a stronger baseline in the body???? There isnt much specifics on Prime so Im finding it hard to figure out how to tweak its dosing.
DW's 69 is a pretty good dosing scheme.Yea I might as well just keep it simple for now and dose 3x @2pills w/meal
Play with dosings later if I feel the need
And you would recommend this protocol? Were the results worth it? It's also the MOST EXPENSIVE protocol. I picked up two bottles to begin with but with this dosing scheme, it's only gonna last about a month.DW's 69 is a pretty good dosing scheme.
I used the same method. (not knowing his).
I just figured the extra 3 would be good pre-wo. lol.
2 am
2 noon
3 pre-wp
2 postwo
Good point. I think I'll follow your recommendations to start. Besides, I can't afford $100 a month for Prime. Let's see what happens...to be continued! Should be one hell of a PCT stack with HGHup.I definately wont dose it at that to start. Like you said, you'll blow through ahundo in 1month. Lets feel it out for the first several weeks and see where it goes.
What I would suggest and am going to do is:
Week 1-2 6pills
Week 3 7pills
Week 4 7pills or bump to 8 etc etc
Also off days taking 6pills, no thanks. You'll need 3-4 in my eyes to keep baseline seperated properly throughout the day. Thats what I would and am doing on off days. Also the 6/9 dosing was per say for the 600mg. I took note that no one ever really clarified that lol Just wanted everyone to keep swallowing a ton of pills and buying more bottles. @800mg its roughly like 7/5
Yes.And you would recommend this protocol? Were the results worth it? It's also the MOST EXPENSIVE protocol. I picked up two bottles to begin with but with this dosing scheme, it's only gonna last about a month.
The thing with Prime though is that it can take a while for it to really kick in. For me, it's always about the middle of second week. If you're dosing low, particularly only three or four on days you don't lift, I would think it could take even longer. I've used it multiple times and my recommendation would be do the 6/9 dosing (even if you have the 800mg caps, do the 6/9) and take it every day. Six weeks of that should give you great results, including big strength increases and improved recovery. It really is a great product, if you want to bulk on it it will give you quality gains with little to no fat gain (I put on 13 pounds over 6-7 weeks first time I used it) with maybe even a little leaning out. If you cut on it, it will help you maintain and even increase your strength through your cut, and you can even add a little mass on a cut with it.I definately wont dose it at that to start. Like you said, you'll blow through ahundo in 1month. Lets feel it out for the first several weeks and see where it goes.
What I would suggest and am going to do is:
Week 1-2 6pills
Week 3 7pills
Week 4 7pills or bump to 8 etc etc
Also off days taking 6pills, no thanks. You'll need 3-4 in my eyes to keep baseline seperated properly throughout the day. Thats what I would and am doing on off days. Also the 6/9 dosing was per say for the 600mg. I took note that no one ever really clarified that lol Just wanted everyone to keep swallowing a ton of pills and buying more bottles. @800mg its roughly like 7/5
Don't worry 6 X 800 mg's is plenty to see very good results. Next time if you get it on sale then you can stock up, that is if you like the product.Well...I guess we'll see how it works for a bit more advanced (not chemical lol) bodybuilder (without sounding arrogant).
If I had money to piss away or got free PRime from USP when their were testing it and having everyone log it, Id run a 12/9 protocol! But for now...we'll keep things as they are and see what happens. 6ondays and 4off and bump up as the weeks come. Hey who knows, USP may need a Natural Athlete to Rep their products throughout the NPC and his rather large network
After "my" testing of this will determine I buy back in and then I'll bump to 9/5 or 6, 9/6 isnt the magic number and need to find the sweet spot for "you"
I wouldn't think so myself I like to start of with a reasonable dose and increase later when the dosage peaks.I'm wondering if this is like creatine mono where you load up the first week and then can just keep a maintenance level going for the remainder.
its definately more than it seems.To me it seems like prime is over rated. I looked at tribulus aquaticus and all i can find out is that it is a good antioxidant laxitive and antibacterial that hepls the liver. How is this supposed to build muscle?
you did not research tribulus aquaticus and come up with that....To me it seems like prime is over rated. I looked at tribulus aquaticus and all i can find out is that it is a good antioxidant laxitive and antibacterial that hepls the liver. How is this supposed to build muscle?
Our L-dopa is extracted differently, most of our herbs to our patent on Cissus are extracted differently.its definately more than it seems.
In my opinion many USP labs products have been revolutionary, first to use cissus, first to use l-dopa for GH.
yeah and now you can buy cissus and l-dopa for cheap, however prime you cant.
They want it that way, they dont want companies ripping off their product, which is why they dont say what its extracted too. Tribulus aquaticus is something to throw people off. whatever its extracted too, which i think is a plant steriod, i think increases nitrogen retention without increasing androgens, so essentially its an straight anabolic.
I definately would like to see a bulk prime, or a price cut though. however there only one company you can buy prime from.
I also felt crappy a few day after i went off, anyone else notice any sort of discontinuation syndrome?
Exactly; :nono:Our L-dopa is extracted differently, most of our herbs to our patent on Cissus are extracted differently.
Wrong supplement bro. It is NOT Tribulis Terrestis. It is Tribulus Acquaticus. It is completely different. :trout:Well Optimum nutrition ann Universal sell tribulus terrestris which is what Prime primarely consists of, for around 10 bucks. Is Prime really going to benifit that much more than those other products?
Yeah recovery goes back to normal as well as appetite for me...which sucks.. :ninja:I also felt crappy a few day after i went off, anyone else notice any sort of discontinuation syndrome?
Totally different animals here. The Trib in Prime is a different extraction.Well Optimum nutrition ann Universal sell tribulus terrestris which is what Prime primarely consists of, for around 10 bucks. Is Prime really going to benifit that much more than those other products?
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