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Pre Workout for pumps and focus (Not looking for Energy)

Jeff5886

Jeff5886

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I know that every day people ask what the best pre-workout is. I'm looking for a new pre-workout but not really looking for crazy meth/stim affects. I'm not looking for stim free, but my primary wants in a new pre-workout are incredible pumps and focus. I want my skin to feel like it's being torn from all of the blood in the muscle plus I want the intense focus. I am already on EC and ArA so don't need extra energy. Also looking for a good profile, preferring to have beta-alanine and other staples in the mix. Any recommendations?
 
May be best to do a non-stim pre and stack with a nootropic TBH
Hemavol, High Volume, White Pump, Body Octane are all good non-stim choices
PEA would be a decent Noot to invest in, maybe some Alcar?
May be easiest to do bulk here (bulk powders) and cheaper.
 
One of the best stim-free preworkouts available hands down is High Volume.

Take a look at the ingredient profile and check out the reviews here in AM or anywhere, this is exactly what you are looking for.

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White Pump has good dosages of Betaine Anydrous, Agmatine Sulfate and L-Narvaline. Stack it with some White Flood for your stim and focus or with another stim/focus product.

You could also go with Focus XT + bulk ingredients. The Solution gave some good options as well.
 
It sounds like a non stim pre would be your best option, maybe even adding a small amount of caffeine to it.

If you want a stim option, check out Hypermax. Do not let the name fool you, it will not give you an over stimmed/crack like effect. If you look through the reviews, which I will link below, you can see that most of our users report solid focus, even laser like in some cases. Also, the addition of Choline Bitritrate helps improve one's focus. If you shoot an email over to [email protected] with Hypermax Sample in the header and your information in the body, you can request a sample.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/249588-hypermax-40-servings.html
 
Im currently using NOxygen @ 1.5 scoops and CF focus is great all around. EPIC provides a clean focus and when stacked with stims the workouts are awsome....
 
My favorite is Myokem Nitramine but it has some stims in it. Worth looking at the ingredients to see if you feel it is too much for what you have going on now...
 
The Solution said:
May be best to do a non-stim pre and stack with a nootropic TBH
Hemavol, High Volume, White Pump, Body Octane are all good non-stim choices
PEA would be a decent Noot to invest in, maybe some Alcar?
May be easiest to do bulk here (bulk powders) and cheaper.
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Yeah I'd say go bulk. Pick up L-Citrulline, Agmatine sulfate, ALCAR, and then a nootropic of choice. Could also pick up some nitrates as well but I'm not sure if they are available in bulk or not.
 
Conqu3r is nice smooth clean energy but is more focused on helping you accomplish your goals in the gym
 
Jeff5886 said:
I know that every day people ask what the best pre-workout is. I'm looking for a new pre-workout but not really looking for crazy meth/stim affects. I'm not looking for stim free, but my primary wants in a new pre-workout are incredible pumps and focus. I want my skin to feel like it's being torn from all of the blood in the muscle plus I want the intense focus. I am already on EC and ArA so don't need extra energy. Also looking for a good profile, preferring to have beta-alanine and other staples in the mix. Any recommendations?
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Let's go over what you want -

Incredible pump - 6 g Citrulline Malate and 1.5 g Agmatine

Beta Alanine - 3.2 g

Focus - Caffeine, L Tyrosine, AMP Citrate, Huperzine

Extra added goodies - TMG clinically dosed at 2.5 g

Creatine (one of the staples you requested) 5 g

See below:

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To me it sounds like CONQU3R is EXACTLY what you're after.

-V
 
I agree with T Bone. Cant get much better than caffeie free Focus XT + High Volume.

Stim free as well :)
 
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While Conqu3r is an incredible profile and pre-workout the caffeine may be a bit high for someone not so focused on energy (Caffeine) which is high at 300mg
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A simple lowering of the dosage would be a simple fix.
 
The Solution said:
While Conqu3r is an incredible profile and pre-workout the caffeine may be a bit high for someone not so focused on energy (Caffeine) which is high at 300mg
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I believe AMP has a role in downplaying the energy rush from the Caffeine, it was you who noted that 200+mg caffeine and you did not do too well but on CONQU3R you were somehow able to tolerate it.
 
Olympus Labs said:
I believe AMP has a role in downplaying the energy rush from the Caffeine, it was you who noted that 200+mg caffeine and you did not do too well but on CONQU3R you were somehow able to tolerate it.
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I tolerated it, but it was a bit too strong in the grand scheme of things when you properly dose BA/CM/Agmatine etc compared to formulas that may short change you. It really left a mark and i felt it for a good 2-3+ hours in my system. Conqu3r is not for the weak.
 
Personally I feel focus has to come from within you & not from a supplement. Yes a PWO can intensify your concentration but if you can't focus your own mind then a PWO won't help with that much. As for pumps I am REALLY liking Henavol by iForce!!! The Lemon Drop tastes AMAZING & my pumps are sick!!! I use Stimul8 for the stim part of it...the 2 together are my go to PWO now!!!
 
MAX Pump delivers the nitrates that's are so popular these days along with some betaine. Great nitrate combo and the pumps last forever.
 
dont forget to add Potassium Nitrate to that
 
SuperSize is great for pumps and focus. Not an extreme energy product. It's more focus and pumps. And our new flavor is being released shortly.
 
Sean1332 said:
White Pump has good dosages of Betaine Anydrous, Agmatine Sulfate and L-Narvaline. Stack it with some White Flood for your stim and focus or with another stim/focus product.

You could also go with Focus XT + bulk ingredients. The Solution gave some good options as well.
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Exactly. Focus xt and agmatine. Or focus xt and any one of your favorite pump products..nitrates would be killer.
 
I've been using Pro Supps reformulated pwo called Hyde stacked with anabolic flood....WOW. The pump is unreal, the focus is unreal, and if you like beta alanine tingles, just down your drink 30 minutes prior to your workout and your skin will feel like you're being pricked with a tens unit from your ears to your toes. I try and avoid this by drinking mine 15 minutes beforehand, and with a few minute warmup I get a little bit of tingleing sensation which lets me know I am ready for battle.

Hyde contains the ingredient Pikatropin for focus which a lot of companies are using as a replacement for 1-3 DMAA and it compares to the likes of Adderall. Some studies have also been shown that it can help increase your hand eye coordination.

I currently have the lemon flavor, and while it taste good, it is also very sweet so I will be trying a different flavor next tub I get. Overall though I love this stack and it is very well priced at I believe about $70 and this stuff lasts me several months.

p.s. tips for using anabolic flood: the reccomended serving size is 4 capsules, only 3 is neccessary imo. Also, I open the capsules and dump em straight into my pwo for faster digestion.
 
I was given a tub of Hyde to review, wish it didn't have the yohimbe in it, other than that it does provide some decent focus, ba tingles and energy....granted it has 400mg of caffeine per scoop from about 3 different forms of caffeine, lol...
 
Olympus Labs said:
I believe AMP has a role in downplaying the energy rush from the Caffeine, it was you who noted that 200+mg caffeine and you did not do too well but on CONQU3R you were somehow able to tolerate it.
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This exactly here. ^^^^

CONQU3R is solid very clean focus.

I'm currently loving NoxyGen alongside 1.5 gram agmatine. Currently the only thing that comes close to this combo (that is stim free) is High Volume.
 
Montego1 said:
MAX Pump delivers the nitrates that's are so popular these days along with some betaine. Great nitrate combo and the pumps last forever.
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Looks like OP already picked up Conqu3r, but I like the above mention a lot. Betaine's got a lot going for it, so you get those benefits plus the pump.

Add that to some bulk agmatine and citrulline malate, and you'd be good to go.
 
bean5er said:
This exactly here. ^^^^

CONQU3R is solid very clean focus.

I'm currently loving NoxyGen alongside 1.5 gram agmatine. Currently the only thing that comes close to this combo (that is stim free) is High Volume.
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Hey there buddy :)
Segansational said:
Looks like OP already picked up Conqu3r, but I like the above mention a lot. Betaine's got a lot going for it, so you get those benefits plus the pump.

Add that to some bulk agmatine and citrulline malate, and you'd be good to go.
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Betaine/TMG is the **** dude
 
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