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Well I am using cremax as my creatine which has some COP and Betaine.. Thanks for the link might check it out
 
Are you guys actually talking about pop tarts or is this an inside joke? lol fill me in please
 
Euch said:
Are you guys actually talking about pop tarts or is this an inside joke? lol fill me in please
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Pop tarts are serious business

Lol they use them for pre workout carb ups
Or just because they are awesome
 
Ginandtonic said:
Can a PES rep chime in on the safety of Rutaecarpine? Specifically it's interactions with the liver?
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You would need to take massive amounts to have any concerns, way more that is in High Volume, or any supplement for that matter. Too much of anything will be toxic, just like caffeine, or tylenol, or...anything

Auslifter said:
Sad i wasn't right about the astralagus extract lol dat eNOS, would have liked to see some strange new ingredients

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That study shows 12 grams per kg in rats lol, that would be like 1 cup of astralagus in human!

money0351 said:
and ridiculous pump pics to follow
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Cant wait!!
 
I asked it in the ArA thread but--screw it--I'll ask it here, too: on the topic of ArA + HV, HV has rutacarpine, which is (apparently) a somewhat effective COX-2 inhibitor. Does that make the combo counterproductive, or is the activity of evodia low enough (like low-dosed aspirin) to not interfere?
 
Going to be comparing Vaskular to HV

Here's post wo pump using Vaskular an hour after, was even better during the workout did back and biceps hypertrophy day.

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HV next up :P
 
Nitrates make me incredibly hypotensive and put me to sleep so I'm kinda disappointed, but it looks like a great product to everyone who isn't sensitive to them.
 
bdcc said:
Agreed. Nitrates are my number one ingredient by far.

Adding them in at such a high dose is what separates this from other products in this category. :)
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You made me bite Ben. I hope nudez are included with my order. I"ll have to be the judge of who is top dog in this category.
 
Adobo said:
You made me bite Ben. I hope nudez are included with my order. I"ll have to be the judge of who is top dog in this category.
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I think the best thing about High Volume is we are using a host of the most well known ingredients rather than trying something new.

We know nitrates work. We know citrulline and agmatine work.

So, why not use them all in a combined dose above what is in other products?

If High Volume doesn't give you an amazing pump, something is wrong. :D
 
paula said:
Is argenine nitrate are more superior than KNO3?
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Did you read the write up?

If not, I would give it a read. Tons of good information in there especially why Arginine Nitrate was included.
 
Nyrin said:
I asked it in the ArA thread but--screw it--I'll ask it here, too: on the topic of ArA + HV, HV has rutacarpine, which is (apparently) a somewhat effective COX-2 inhibitor. Does that make the combo counterproductive, or is the activity of evodia low enough (like low-dosed aspirin) to not interfere?
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At high doses, it would be counterproductive. At the dose we use, not likely, although if you're concerned, then avoid it. If it were me, however, I would stack them together.

paula said:
Is argenine nitrate are more superior than KNO3?
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Nitrate sources are all the same in that they provide nitrates, but arginine nitrate in particular helps with nitrate tolerance, while KNO3 does not.
 
Here we go:

Nitrates – All Day Pumps?!

Remember…the key is to increase NO, do it quickly, and have it last for its long term benefits. In our search for a long-lasting pump ingredient, we focused on a compound that has been used by for the purpose of venodilation (expansion of your veins for roadmap vascularity and pumps). This compound is nitrate.

Nitrates, in addition to having an 8+ hour half-life for long lasting pumps, use a unique pathway to boost NO. To be specific, nitrates bypass the enzyme that L-Citrulline relies on, eNOS, which has a “saturation point” at which no further supplementation can increase its activity. This means that you can bypass the body’s natural restriction points for unparalleled muscle pumpswith the combination for nitrate and citrulline. You see, nitrates act as an “NO donor,” meaning they convert to NO directly via a 2-step process…no enzymes or restriction points involved [7]!

In addition to all of this, it looks like nitrates can actually augment protein synthesis in muscle tissue…which means they can also have a purpose independent of NO elevation [5, 6]!

Some of you might be asking, why did we use Arginine Nitrate as our nitrate source out of all the possible amino-nitrates? Easy answer…the nitrate is increasing NO, but the arginine plays a very important role when combined with nitrate. We found that arginine actually has the ability to reduce nitrate tolerance [4]! This makes Arginine Nitrate the most superior form of nitrate available. Gone are the days of diminishing returns…High Volume gets BETTER, not worse, with time.
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bdcc said:
I think the best thing about High Volume is we are using a host of the most well known ingredients rather than trying something new.

We know nitrates work. We know citrulline and agmatine work.

So, why not use them all in a combined dose above what is in other products?

If High Volume doesn't give you an amazing pump, something is wrong. :D
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Oh I totally believe it too. If our stuff can make fat guys look vaskular :p then I expect HV to deliver as well. HV and Katana might be Amento overdose :O
 
There was worry about product quantity for the Insider, did everyone get it in time? Or did it even sell out?
 
nattydisaster said:
By my estimates it will be sold out sometime on Monday The good news is retailers will have all the Blue Frost late next week
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This is a kind warning to all on the fence about it. Get them orders in quickly!
 
Blue Frost in next week means another order for me before even trying Paradise Cooler lol

I trust its good ;)
 
I'm going to experiment with a Monster (white can blue logo) and High Volume Blue Frost. I have a feeling it's going to be a nice combo :).
 
kbayne said:
I'm going to experiment with a Monster (white can blue logo) and High Volume Blue Frost. I have a feeling it's going to be a nice combo :).
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Sounds like a good combo. That is definitely a huge perk to a stim free pre. So many combo possibilities.
 
Adobo said:
Don't remind me, including Dilate and SAN Megatron at some point the competition is legit. Ben, Syn and PES are making the "Pump" more enjoyable :p
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Is it safe to say the pump is like cumming?? Lol good ole Arnold!
 
I have a bottle of AmentoMAX
2 caps is recommended pre workout

if i take HV do I still take 2 caps of AmentoMAX or just 1 or none? thanks
 
sprintsss said:
I have a bottle of AmentoMAX
2 caps is recommended pre workout

if i take HV do I still take 2 caps of AmentoMAX or just 1 or none? thanks
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You could add a cap for a high dose, but it wouldn't be necessary, as High Volume is adequately dosed already.
 
sprintsss said:
I have a bottle of AmentoMAX 2 caps is recommended pre workout if i take HV do I still take 2 caps of AmentoMAX or just 1 or none? thanks
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If you do 1 scoop of High Volume, you could add 1 cap of AmentoMax.

2 scoops High Volume, no need for AmentoMax.
 
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