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This thread has made me face palm multiple times.
 
Driven2lift said:
This thread has gotten so far without any PES input lol its a ticking timebomb full of theories and accusations.

I don't know what exactly is happening here and won't pretend to. PES has obviously asked their reps to hold off on commenting until it us figured out, they are by no means to blame here.

I will be waiting for their return and statement, until then I will be sipping on some Alphamine and reminding myself of what I do know, PES is a company that I believe in because their products have been effective for me and that won't change regardless of what company may own them or what people may say otherwise.

Here's to hoping PES gets this sorted out as quick and painlessly as possible
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This logic seems very plausible. Josh may very well answer this one personally. PES reps have always been quick to respond and help out when questioned. Their silence on this issue more than likely means they were asked not to reply until an official statement was made
 
Being a friday I hope we do not have to wait till monday to get some resolution on this.
 
RickyBDragon said:
Exactly! What it is so hard about posting either a simple YES or a NO from someone from PES or USPlabs?
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I've seen both USP and PES reps deny this on more than one occasion.

On here and in person.

Yet, no matter how many times they do, these threads still keep coming around.
 
jimbuick said:
I've seen both USP and PES reps deny this on more than one occasion.

On here and in person.

Yet, no matter how many times they do, these threads still keep coming around.
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Why aren't they doing it now??They know the charade is up obviously
 
I came in here expecting a rep war.
Unfortunately (and I guess fortunately at the same time) I cannot see signatures on the mobile app so I don't know who reps for who, or who is an independent.

Regardless, here is what I have to say.

How can USP have a pending patent on something for so long? I think it was more of a marketing tactic.
USP and PES are just as equally affiliated as PES and Athletix, PES and iForce, or any other company who has ever teamed up with another company to offer a bundle deal.
If one product works, and another works, and together they supposedly work even better, and sales statistics show that both are selling quite well on their own, why not offer everyone what they probably already want?

As for Coop's signature being removed, I'm pretty sure he's more an R&D guy right now and not a rep. Who cares if he removed his signature lol????

Also, this entire subject about ownership has already been disputed and resolved on Predator forum.

In b4 you guys start making death threats and make it into my latest thread lol ;)
 
Oh yeah and I forgot to add that this thread is barely 24 hours young and it's the weekend.
My guess is the reps you claim are ignoring this topic either have lives to catch up on or they don't spend hours on end using the search tool to sift through the forum in search of such a ridiculous thread?
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I came in here expecting a rep war.
Unfortunately (and I guess fortunately at the same time) I cannot see signatures on the mobile app so I don't know who reps for who, or who is an independent.

Regardless, here is what I have to say.

How can USP have a pending patent on something for so long? I think it was more of a marketing tactic.
USP and PES are just as equally affiliated as PES and Athletix, PES and iForce, or any other company who has ever teamed up with another company to offer a bundle deal.
If one product works, and another works, and together they supposedly work even better, and sales statistics show that both are selling quite well on their own, why not offer everyone what they probably already want?

As for Coop's signature being removed, I'm pretty sure he's more an R&D guy right now and not a rep. Who cares if he removed his signature lol????

Also, this entire subject about ownership has already been disputed and resolved on Predator forum.

In b4 you guys start making death threats and make it into my latest thread lol ;)
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Its nothing to do with bundle deals lol
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
It's been asked more than once in the past week if they're under mutual ownership due to the fact they have sold stacks together.
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If that was the case, almost every company would be affiliated lol.
 
Jiigzz said:
If that was the case, almost every company would be affiliated lol.
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EXACTLY lol. I don't understand why this is a concern.
My local furniture store gives away 42" Samsung TVs with large purchases. They must be affiliated.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
EXACTLY lol. I don't understand why this is a concern.
My local furniture store gives away 42" Samsung TVs with large purchases. They must be affiliated.
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I'm just going to wait for PES to get here.
 
mw1 said:
Its shady as **** seeing their reps reviewed their own products
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Reps review and give testimonials on their own products all of the time! It's literally what reps do, they share their experiences and other users experiences, science behind formulations, etc.

Is it shady anytime a SNS rep says they've used focus xt and liked it? Why would this be different?
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Oh yeah and I forgot to add that this thread is barely 24 hours young and it's the weekend.
My guess is the reps you claim are ignoring this topic either have lives to catch up on or they don't spend hours on end using the search tool to sift through the forum in search of such a ridiculous thread?
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This thread has been right above the Amino thread all day long so its not like they didnt see it.
 
I don't know if the mods will let me. One second while I see if it's still around.
Predator themselves even stated there is no affiliation.
 
It's still active. It is a year old. First thing that popped up on my Google search.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
It's still active. It is a year old. First thing that popped up on my Google search.
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Just googled it "usplabs PES affiliation predator", it popped right up. Predator and BDCC both said outright that it is untrue.


Which they have done before on this forum.
 
jimbuick said:
Reps review and give testimonials on their own products all of the time! It's literally what reps do, they share their experiences and other users experiences, science behind formulations, etc.

Is it shady anytime a SNS rep says they've used focus xt and liked it? Why would this be different?
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Anyone else notice the king of conspiracy himself had no rebuttal to this?
 
jimbuick said:
Anyone else notice the king of conspiracy himself had no rebuttal to this?
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Theres a huge difference if this ends up being true. If an SNs rep states he likes FXT, at least his affiliation is known. If, say for arguments sake that SNS and CL are affiliated but it is unknown and then CL praises FXT in the hopes of appearing unbiased but in fact isnt, then thats an underhanded tactic.
 
jimbuick said:
Just googled it "usplabs PES affiliation predator", it popped right up. Predator and BDCC both said outright that it is untrue.


Which they have done before on this forum.
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Oh yea Reggie is a really trustworthy person LOL
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I don't know if the mods will let me. One second while I see if it's still around.
Predator themselves even stated there is no affiliation.
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Reggie also claimed he had personally funded lab tests on Craze that would prove its innocence.

Then went completely silent on the issue when the mass media coverage began and started selling craze at insanely marked up prices instead.

I wouldn't trust a word they say.

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Oh right, and that one time where Predator offered label switching services for international orders to try and fraudulently sneak banned ingredients past customs.
 
The Illuminati own everything so what's the point of this thread?

That's right.
 
Jiigzz said:
Theres a huge difference if this ends up being true. If an SNs rep states he likes FXT, at least his affiliation is known. If, say for arguments sake that SNS and CL are affiliated but it is unknown and then CL praises FXT in the hopes of appearing unbiased but in fact isnt, then thats an underhanded tactic.
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Just a hunch, but I don't think most reps know the financial makeup of the company/companies they rep for...Nor do I think anyone cares that much.
 
Admin said:
Just a hunch, but I don't think most reps know the financial makeup of the company/companies they rep for...Nor do I think anyone cares that much.
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Oh I know. But I think that was the point mw was making
 
Jiigzz said:
Oh I know. But I think that was the point mw was making
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Then the point about reps reviewing products is moot since they almost certainly have zero information on who owns what stake in who.
 
Subbed!

I'd be shocked if USP Labs owned PES, I can't see it.

On that note, this is not going to stop me from using Enhanced and High Volume today at work until I hear some more solid proof. Entertaining thread tho lol.
 
I just found this on supplement reviews .com from usp rep isamurai.

USPlabs and PES are not affiliated with each other.
I've reached out to people in PMs and if anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to PM myself or Cryo. We will not be posting information on the public threads.


dated nov 13, 2013
 
kenny76 said:
I just found this on supplement reviews .com from usp rep isamurai.

USPlabs and PES are not affiliated with each other.
I've reached out to people in PMs and if anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to PM myself or Cryo. We will not be posting information on the public threads.


dated nov 13, 2013
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Did you pm then to get the 411?
 
and if i wasnt supposed to post that link i apoligize, thought it might help clear this up a little. it probably didnt really though.

deleted. google "usp labs owns pes" and its at the top
 
kenny76 said:
no because i dont really have any questions or concerns. he answered the only question i have. all i can do is take him for his word and see how all this plays out.
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I see. Thanks for that, I don't think anyone has seen reps from the companies state that before.

And yea, you should delete the link.
 
I have no comment regarding the debate going on here, but since I just spent about 15 minutes of my Saturday morning reading through this entire thread, I figured I'd better make it worth my while and post something.

That is all! :laugh:
 
DGA3 said:
I have no comment regarding the debate going on here, but since I just spent about 15 minutes of my Saturday morning reading through this entire thread, I figured I'd better make it worth my while and post something.

That is all! :laugh:
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For real. Ignorance is bliss I guess. I had no idea about any of these issues. All I know is that the two companies I used the most of are PES and USPlabs. I get regular blood work and I'm not dead. So all is well here..... I'm on multiple supps from these companies year round including versa and different forms of oxy elite.... No one is bashing underground steroid labs... Who knows wtf is really being injected into your blood.... People want scapegoats I guess but there's certainly much more harmful things out there than USPlabs supps and PES ... We ALL use the stuff..... We're all healthy and alive lol.

In for more circular talk/banter and un constructive criticism
 
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