PES Erase and SSRI.

rodo123

Member
Im taking Erase and psych just prescribed me 20mg of Celexa for anxiety issues. Would it not be smart to take these two together?
 
We cannot advise taking our supplements alongside prescription drugs. Some people can combine them and have no side effects whereas other people could encounter a serious side effect.

While your health is at risk we advise you to be cautious and recommend against using our products simultaneously to your medication.

If you have any more questions please feel free to ask.

Ben
 
Yeah i haven't even bought the medication yet. I went to her, she barely talked to me, and basically just gave me the prescription. I left pretty mad haha. Would Erase increase anxiety or have no effect on it. It lowers cortisol, so it might reduce anxiety? just a thought
 
rodo123 said:
Yeah i haven't even bought the medication yet. I went to her, she barely talked to me, and basically just gave me the prescription. I left pretty mad haha. Would Erase increase anxiety or have no effect on it. It lowers cortisol, so it might reduce anxiety? just a thought
Click to expand...

That would be an extremely tenuous link to make. Anxiety can be caused by a lot of factors and cortisol wouldn't even be the first thing someone would look at. I am not aware of anxiety issues arrising from Erase but for legal reasons and ethical reasons I do not like making recommendations that might negatively impact someone's health as a consequence.
 
I have been using Erase since it was released ... I am on two SSRIs due to anxiety-related issues and have had zero negative effects from Erase. Yes, I was on the SSRIs for quite some time before Erase came along and was added to my supplementation.

However, and I cannot emphasize the importance of this, each person is different and it may be in your best interest to ask the doctor who prescribed your medication rather than anonymous members on a forum.
 
Thanks for chiming in, it is good to hear personal experiences.

I emphasise his last paragraph for your own safety. :)
 
I would actually advise talking to a pharmacist, I advised my gf to talk to her psych before starting alphaT2 due to the warning on the label about conbining with ssris and the shrink had no clue about the compound, your better off asking a pharmacist who will understand the dangerous of combining certain compounds. When it comes to medication/supplementation most pharmacists know more than doctors...they studied chemistry. But that's just my advice and I am NOT a doctor...yet
 
never thought about it, but i hope not. im waiting on my 2nd bottle of anabeta, already have erase, im gonna start around Christmas. I've weened down from 20mg of celexa to just 5mg. whenever i start something new, i start low and work my way up (ill start anabeta at 3 caps a day, and erase at 1, working my way up)

ive been on celexa for YEARS, and finally wanted to come off (but coming off completely is harder than i though, and im in school/stressed, so im very happy at 5mg, especially considering i was at 40mg at one point), but ive taken a ton of different supps over the years while on it and seen no side effects, but these compounds are a bit different than run of the mill PWO's, so i wanted to subscribe to this thread to hear others thoughts.



ps - glad to hear about alpha t2, i was gonna give that a shot in the spring.
 
strester said:
I have been using Erase since it was released ... I am on two SSRIs due to anxiety-related issues and have had zero negative effects from Erase. Yes, I was on the SSRIs for quite some time before Erase came along and was added to my supplementation.

However, and I cannot emphasize the importance of this, each person is different and it may be in your best interest to ask the doctor who prescribed your medication rather than anonymous members on a forum.
Click to expand...


initially, i overlooked this... i might recommend staying on the celexa solo for a little while, just to see how you respond to THAT before adding other things... just so you know what it is thats causing the side effects (if there are any).
 
People can always be tempted to combine supplements with medication, especially if they are on something for years.

It is nice to have people reporting their personal experiences because it can help educate others. From the PES stand point we just can't advocate it because we don't want to risk giving advice which has a negative outcome for the customer.

This is why we have to take a standpoint on it. I like reading about how people get on with them but in most cases we are unable to offer any further advice. It isn't that we are deliberately unhelpful. :)
 
no, i understand... for a minute i got scared thinking you were implying there WOULD be interactions, then i realized youre just not able to say one way or another.


honestly, i dont even know what kind of side effects to look for. ive been on ssri's since i was 18 for anxiety. IM NOT ADVOCATING DOING THIS... but i drink alcohol on them (not as much as i used to, but still), try new supps, and ive never had a doctor tell me 'this medication (for pain, or whatever) will interact with your ssri'.... the most ive heard was the pharmacist told me not to drink grapefruit juice AT THE SAME TIME as an ssri (but cleared it for several hours before or after) because it can inhibit its effects.

my rule of thumb is just watching my anxiety, anything that increases it i stay away from, and some things (i suppose grapefruit juice, for example) may increase it not in-and-of-themselves, but by decreasing the effectiveness of the ssri
 
Even if a company does not put the SSRI warning on the label, you should always check with your Dr or Pharmacist. Just because a company does not understand the mechanisms of their products or SSRIs and forgets to include it on the label doesnt mean they are OK to combine.

SSRIs can have very complex mechanisms and alterations when things are added to them, which is the reason for the warnings. Since we do not have long term proof of our products combined with all the SSRIs out there and ones coming to the market, we suggest to ask your Dr. or Pharm.

Likely, they wont understand our products or ingredients since they are new, so to assist them you should tell them the products mechanism of action. "I am taking Erase, a supplement that is an aromatase inhibitor, is this ok to take with ______"
 
nattydisaster said:
Even if a company does not put the SSRI warning on the label, you should always check with your Dr or Pharmacist. Just because a company does not understand the mechanisms of their products or SSRIs and forgets to include it on the label doesnt mean they are OK to combine.

SSRIs can have very complex mechanisms and alterations when things are added to them, which is the reason for the warnings. Since we do not have long term proof of our products combined with all the SSRIs out there and ones coming to the market, we suggest to ask your Dr. or Pharm.

Likely, they wont understand our products or ingredients since they are new, so to assist them you should tell them the products mechanism of action. "I am taking Erase, a supplement that is an aromatase inhibitor, is this ok to take with ______"
Click to expand...

ive used zoloft for a while while using a few test boosters and cortisol modulators
only issue ive had was when i was taking triazole with it. got awesome results from it . loved the stuff .
however triazole had natural MAOI inhibitors in there.
curcumin, piperine. i was getting chest pains and crazy blood pressure.
other natural MAOI inhibitors that can cause problems with peolpe on ssri's are
Resveratrol, trib, rhodiola, gingko,siberian ginseng,yohimbe etc.

as for the erase.
i think 7 keto can increase serotonin levels so combining with an ssri may increase the risk of serotonin toxivity.
 
We should keep track of supps that causes anxiety. I too am on meds. Some affected me more tthan others, but I never kept track so I can't remember what impacted me at the time. Someone said supps that gives you alpha feeling usually cause anxiety in those prone to it, but I don't know how true that statement is. I will try to keep a log next time I read about a supp causing it, or personally experiencing it again.
 
Going to echo all of the above sentiment about asking your doctor, pharmacist, et. al.. It's really sound advice, and almost none of us here are qualified to advise on this matter other than perhaps something anecdotal.



On that... Anecdotal: I've used Erase, I've been on 20mg of Celexa for about 6 months, no ill-effects. I did NOT ask my doctor about it, though. I figured that when I told him about my supplement job and whatnot, him laughing about it, he might not know what I'm talking about. Then after he swore that "quinine water" would be the cure-all for some cramping issues that I had, that was that - guy doesn't know much at all. I should probably have sought out another doc, but ... I'm stupid when it comes to myself, sometimes.

fwiw... tried the whole quinine bs. (tonic water) It was horrible and did NOTHING. A little extra magnesium supplementation and BAM - no more cramps.

Edit/Addendum: If you were advised to take the Celexa at night, take it with food. If I don't, I get the worst dry heaves the next morning. Other than that, I'm a happy camper! lol :D
 
thats the problem, ive yet to have a doctor that understands supplements or even appears to lift weights for that matter. my first doc told me i should stay away from creatine because it might be dangerous and when i said 'well, what about protein shakes', he said 'id be hesitant to take anything like that either', so i quit listening to him with regard to supps.

i asked my next doctor about any ill-effects someone in my position (on the meds im on, in my general health) would have taking a pro-hormone, and she pulled out a big generic book and goes, well, they can cause 'high blood pressure, hair loss, acne, gyno,' etc etc etc. so realizing that was going nowhere i just said 'oh, i didnt know all that, i guess ill stay away from them'

my friend asked his doctor who was performing gyno surgery on him about test boosters and the doctor had no idea what he was even talking about.

relica - interesting you mentioned trib, thats one thing i took for a while and never saw any noticeable sides, and i BELIEVE i was still on at least 15mg of celexa (citalopram) at that point.


I ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF HERE.... but at 5mgs, and for as long as ive been on them and know my cycles of anxiety and what effects me, im not going to stress about the anabeta/erase/asgt im running at the beginning of the year... if anxiety becomes and issue, or i see a spike in BP, then ill quit. however, im still a bit skeptical/scared to try DAA with anxiety.
 
on a side note, for what its worth.... anxiety is a weird issue, and anyone who has it knows that and knows its cyclical, and anxiety about anxiety CAUSES anxiety, lol.

i used to get really bad anxiety when id try new products, especially stims as its such a reported side effect. now that i take max dosages of pwo's, i wonder if my anxiety back in the day was actually a side effect, or if i was just psyching myself out thinking 'oh man, i want results, but this stuff is really going to mess up my anxiety or cause some serious side effect like a heart attack or something' so id worry about what it was going to do to me, thus, causing the anxiety..... like a self fulfilling prophecy.

nowadays, whenever i try something new, i start at a VERY low dose and work my way up.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top