Other than PED's what drugs do you take to enhance their bodybuiling experience.

[Newth]

many people need drugs just to feel normal people with ptsd, bi polar, schizophrenic etc many people have degenerated disease, diabetes,pain etc. what about cancer patients aids patients. i dont think its fair to lump anyone that takes a drug on a regular basis as having a problem..

Same crap as the race problem...what ever, where all the same, some just get a harder version of it than others.

EDIT: This was an agreeing vent not an attack hay.

 

[Chados]

Same crap as the race problem...what ever, where all the same, some just get a harder version of it than others.

Seriously though.. Nowadays everyone has a diagnos because they get everything for free and never have to work for it, parents defend them to death even when they do something wrong. Kids grow up weak and with no goals in life making them act exactly like people that actually have a diagnos. It's called depression not bipolar disorder.. A friend got prescribed Xanax for flying.. jesus

 

[Newth]

Seriously though.. Nowadays everyone has a diagnos because they get everything for free and never have to work for it, parents defend them to death even when they do something wrong. Kids grow up weak and with no goals in life making them act exactly like people that actually have a diagnos. It's called depression not bipolar disorder.. A friend got prescribed Xanax for flying.. jesus

Thats the point though really, both ends, Total Homo!(homosapian).

Xanax for flying...yeah I dunno...variables...lol.

 

[Chados]

Thats the point though really, both ends, Total Homo!(homosapian).

Xanax for flying...yeah I dunno...variables...lol.

Yup and the guy is also abusing alcohol and weed. He's not a guy that can take one and stop.. It's terrible how many people die form benzos even when prescribed..

 

[Newth]

Yup and the guy is also abusing alcohol and weed. He's not a guy that can take one and stop.. It's terrible how many people die form benzos even when prescribed..

Some times I'm not a guy who can take one and stop.
I've been abusing a few things over the last three years again and it's changed the way I perceive things this time round hay.

Edit; I should add this was all by choice.

 

[Chados]

Some times I'm not a guy who can take one and stop.
I've been abusing a few things over the last three years again and it's changed the way I perceive things this time round hay.

Edit; I should add this was all by choice.

I'd like to say that I can but I have taken more than I need many times.. The only things I'd consider abuse would be when drinking in younger years but that's about every human being and weed which I just find non threatening to my body (maybe ignorant).

It's good that you can admit it and hopefully you'll manage to control it in the future. Sometimes I feel people are lacking something in their life and they substitute it for something that kinda takes them to another world for a while.

 

[Newth]

I'd like to say that I can but I have taken more than I need many times.. The only things I'd consider abuse would be when drinking in younger years but that's about every human being and weed which I just find non threatening to my body (maybe ignorant).

It's good that you can admit it and hopefully you'll manage to control it in the future. Sometimes I feel people are lacking something in their life and they substitute it for something that kinda takes them to another world for a while.

Sorry, loaded that page and walked a way for a bit...abuse is all the same across age imo.

 

[Chados]

Sorry, loaded that page and walked a way for a bit...abuse is all the same across age imo.

Very valid point.. I do think there's a difference between being an abuser or being addicted though. When you're young you go out to drink and maybe to be able to walk to women.. When you drink at home just to get away from real life you're most likely addicted.

 

[Newth]

Very valid point.. I do think there's a difference between being an abuser or being addicted though. When you're young you go out to drink and maybe to be able to walk to women.. When you drink at home just to get away from real life you're most likely addicted.

Addiction is addiction but a psychological trigger is a psychological trigger also.

 

[Chados]

Addiction is addiction but a psychological trigger is a psychological trigger also.

Absolutely and none of these are much better than the other.

 

[Newth]

Absolutely and none of these are much better than the other.

Exactly, the worlds ****ed up but you do what you do.

 

[Chados]

Exactly, the worlds ****ed up but you do what you do.

New world of free medicin, easy attainable illegal drugs and people blaming society and not themselves. Worrying future for the kids

 

[Newth]

New world of free medicin, easy attainable illegal drugs and people blaming society and not themselves. Worrying future for the kids

More one of those come round goes round things I think, give it time.

 

[Newth]

I'd like to say that I can but I have taken more than I need many times.. The only things I'd consider abuse would be when drinking in younger years but that's about every human being and weed which I just find non threatening to my body (maybe ignorant).

It's good that you can admit it and hopefully you'll manage to control it in the future. Sometimes I feel people are lacking something in their life and they substitute it for something that kinda takes them to another world for a while.

I would also like to say cheers.
It's a lot closer than I would like.

Edit. I should add that abusing over the years has taught me boundries also.

 

[Newth]

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[YoungThor]

I'd like to say that I can but I have taken more than I need many times.. The only things I'd consider abuse would be when drinking in younger years but that's about every human being and weed which I just find non threatening to my body (maybe ignorant).

It's good that you can admit it and hopefully you'll manage to control it in the future. Sometimes I feel people are lacking something in their life and they substitute it for something that kinda takes them to another world for a while.

Yes, addiction is often the result of someone lacking meaning. Many people on this board were once addicted to a substance or at least abused substances but they likely found greater meaning to live for. Obviously bodybuilding, fitness, and general health is one of those meanings. The ironic thing is that they never lost their taste for drugs though, but rather than using psychoactive drugs they use anabolic hormones. I think that’s a good trade though. You never hear, or at least very rarely hear, of anyone ruining their life because they got caught up with steroid use.

 

[Chados]

Yes, addiction is often the result of someone lacking meaning. Many people on this board were once addicted to a substance or at least abused substances but they likely found greater meaning to live for. Obviously bodybuilding, fitness, and general health is one of those meanings. The ironic thing is that they never lost their taste for drugs though, but rather than using psychoactive drugs they use anabolic hormones. I think that’s a good trade though. You never hear, or at least very rarely hear, of anyone ruining their life because they got caught up with steroid use.

True true... Best thing would be if everyone would run healthier cycles though but even here we tend to want more or stronger things.