Yes I have pinned before yes I have used actual tren before but I'm curious could one take several pellets of the fina and get something like maybe 50 mgs worth of trenbolone ace out of it. I'm looking to stay legal as I can no lnger take the risk
I disagree tren is definately worth the risk its the strongest injectable on the planet. Its not for beginers, but for advanced athletes tgere is none better.cuz he didnt want something illegal man.........
tren isnt all that man.........strongest AAS and the worst for you..........ask a competitive bodybuilder what he thinks of tren, and they will tell you its not worth the sides.
prove it..........you got pics up?I disagree tren is definately worth the risk its the strongest injectable on the planet. Its not for beginers, but for advanced athletes tgere is none better.
No pics up. However I am not a bodybuilder I am a competative powerlifter with 530 official bench. I am fairly certain 99% of humans cant accomplish this. That makes me an advanced athlete. I am only stating a known fact that tren is indeed the most powerful injectable on the planet. Because of its strength it also carries very strong side effects that will vary from user to user. It is most certainly not for beginers. If you are an advanced level athlete either bb, pl, strongman, fighter whatever its worth looking into.prove it..........you got pics up?
oh I know all about tren ace, one of my favs, just doesnt like me, lol! tren was one of the reasons I quit AAS, just made me a very very evil person. I do know that its the strongest, and should be reserved for contest prep, but never in the offseason. if its offseason, Id say 1g of test and SLIN 3x a day.............but dont take that as advice, lol!No pics up. However I am not a bodybuilder I am a competative powerlifter with 530 official bench. I am fairly certain 99% of humans cant accomplish this. That makes me an advanced athlete. I am only stating a known fact that tren is indeed the most powerful injectable on the planet. Because of its strength it also carries very strong side effects that will vary from user to user. It is most certainly not for beginers. If you are an advanced level athlete either bb, pl, strongman, fighter whatever its worth looking into.
post a pic........and we will see who is the tard? back up your claims that tren does all that..............slin over tren e, your a retard!
I would have to agree with you bro.........tren isnt worth it IMO............my fav was test e250mg EOD, EQ 200mg EOD, and var dosed at 40mg a day split dose................now that I have the size, no need for those cycles.i didnt think tren lived up to all it is touted to be. Sure it made me strong, yes it burned fat like nuts- but the sides where not worth it (ran ace at 350mgs a week)
now- my favorite combo of all time- NPP(400mgs a week), Masteron prop(800mgs wk) and test cyp(750mgs a week)
so your saying slin is what made you swoll, but your all natural dropping 750- 1g of test a week. I'm just gonna take a guess here and say its the 1g of test along with the other aas stacked on top. The OP wants to know how to convert FINA and I say why go thru all that BS and just pin tren E. Sure you'll get sides and sure it's illiegal but guess what? so is slin and that **** can kill you. I'd rather have night sweats than go to sleep and never wake up.post a pic........and we will see who is the tard? back up your claims that tren does all that..............
Ill post pics of myself all natural and I bet your paycheck I look better on nothing..........
where in the world did you get that im on anything? i havent used in 6 years man..........ive been all natural this whole time.so your saying slin is what made you swoll, but your all natural dropping 750- 1g of test a week. I'm just gonna take a guess here and say its the 1g of test along with the other aas stacked on top. The OP wants to know how to convert FINA and I say why go thru all that BS and just pin tren E. Sure you'll get sides and sure it's illiegal but guess what? so is slin and that **** can kill you. I'd rather have night sweats than go to sleep and never wake up.
heres a lil story................i used to shoot 100mg tren ace everyday!!! then you tell me about tempers!!! lol!....for my money....tren e.....is the most powerfull roid i've ever come across......and yea....you can't sleep great.....sweat like a pig...and at times, temper flare-ups......& high blood pressure......but i never have been stronger than on tren.....or hornier......lol
not the same thing..........different compounds bro....................the other thing about using aas is being willing to suffer and put up with a lot of discomfort. .....its a fact.....think of the old expression 'no pain no gain'........doin' roids can take you out of your comfort zone......................can't you 'kill' your pancreas messing with insulin......or is glucophage not the same thing???????
Probably around 10-25%how about getting back on topic? anybody know a conversion rate??
it is extremelt toxic to your whole internal organs man...........where have you been?ur wrong. the only reason for a conversion is to make an injectable. it has nothing to do with the fact that trenbolone has prolactin sides.
tren is not toxic to the liver or kidneys.
Just WOW, do sum research man. TREN ; injectable, methly, or oral are all really hard on the renal and hepatic systems. Havent you ever seen orange rusty looking piss while running tren? havent you experienced the pressure in your kidneys(probobly thought it wuz back pumps)? havent you ever felt that pressure sitting on your liver area on the ryte of your abdomen?ur wrong. the only reason for a conversion is to make an injectable. it has nothing to do with the fact that trenbolone has prolactin sides.
tren is not toxic to the liver or kidneys.
well said bro..........i will NEVER EVER use this crap again...........i lost someone very special in my life because I was ADDICTED to tren, and i live with that everyday. if i could go back and do it all over again, i would. today i sit alone on christmas and rethink my decisions over and over, because it was my fault..........i didnt have control of my addiction.Just WOW, do sum research man. TREN ; injectable, methly, or oral are all really hard on the renal and hepatic systems. Havent you ever seen orange rusty looking piss while running tren? havent you experienced the pressure in your kidneys(probobly thought it wuz back pumps)? havent you ever felt that pressure sitting on your liver area on the ryte of your abdomen?
Orals are more toxic to these systems than injectables, just for the fact of the conversions that have to take place, taxing the body heavily.
There's this little thing called a filter between your brain and your mouth. Use it, It's that simple. Tren comes out of your system in a short amount of time. Tren isn't addicting either. To me it sounds like you are the one with the problems and you should have known that going into a tren cycle. Of course it's harsh, and if you can't control your mouth or temper while off cycle, you surely can't control it while on cycle. I've had thoughts of anger, but it's as simple as realizing you shouldn't say something before you say it, and excusing yourself to get a grip if you need to. The important people in your life should know what you are doing, and understand how it can and will effect you and them. These are the kind of horror stories that scare people, and give aas a bad name. I've never had a problem, and no one i know has had a problem. I guess there are people out there that can't control themselves, and I agree, they should strongly consider this before hand and make an informed decision. But in no way does tren turn everyone into a crazed raging a-hole.well said bro..........i will NEVER EVER use this crap again...........i lost someone very special in my life because I was ADDICTED to tren, and i live with that everyday. if i could go back and do it all over again, i would. today i sit alone on christmas and rethink my decisions over and over, because it was my fault..........i didnt have control of my addiction.
that is why i tell everyone who dabbles in tren to think cautiously before trying a cycle. the effects of this drug are extremely strong, and you may also lose someone very special to you because you can not control your temper or the things you say...........
like i said, is it worth being a lil bit bigger, to lose someone so close to your heart..........IMO NO..........!!!!!
lol well you know why us bros tell each other about **** we run and have the forums and had groups of indivuals at gyms before computers, cuz most of the compounds dont have enough clinical research behind them to go on. But you go on and keep believing what you want, your invincible.thats bro science. i welcome u to cite an actual scientific study showing trenbolone to be toxic to any organ system. methyl tren (methyltrienolone) is a totally different compound and it is proven in research to be extremely toxic.
sorry to here that man, I know exactly what you mean when you lose your temper. Worst part is once you realize what your doing that would make me extremely mad and frustrated that I lost control of myself. I would feel more embarressed by my behavior than anything. My wife is cool with it and just laughs at me. Funny thing is I'm super mellow, I just have a stressful job.well said bro..........i will NEVER EVER use this crap again...........i lost someone very special in my life because I was ADDICTED to tren, and i live with that everyday. if i could go back and do it all over again, i would. today i sit alone on christmas and rethink my decisions over and over, because it was my fault..........i didnt have control of my addiction.
that is why i tell everyone who dabbles in tren to think cautiously before trying a cycle. the effects of this drug are extremely strong, and you may also lose someone very special to you because you can not control your temper or the things you say...........
like i said, is it worth being a lil bit bigger, to lose someone so close to your heart..........IMO NO..........!!!!!
oh my current gf is legit and sold and ****...........down for me til death.........and thats all i can ask for bro.sorry to here that man, I know exactly what you mean when you lose your temper. Worst part is once you realize what your doing that would make me extremely mad and frustrated that I lost control of myself. I would feel more embarressed by my behavior than anything. My wife is cool with it and just laughs at me. Funny thing is I'm super mellow, I just have a stressful job.
Anyway we all make mistakes bro, as long as you learned something from it, it will make you a better person and your next relationship will benefit from it.
You, sir, are a moron. Tren is extremely harsh on your body. Night sweats, dark urine, pains, lactating nipples, insomnia...those are not normal body functions.i welcome u to show an actual scientific study showing trenbolone to be toxic. this stuff was released as a human drug in the past and was tested on humans.
thank you.........he will learn the hard way i guess..........give him 5 months on some ace and he will be wishing he wasnt so hard headed.......You, sir, are a moron. Tren is extremely harsh on your body. Night sweats, dark urine, pains, lactating nipples, insomnia...those are not normal body functions.
5 months??? Who runs ace for 5 months? Anyone that runs tren a for 5 months is incredibly ignorant. Of course it's harsh, but that's the point. You can't cruise on tren like you can on test, It's a completely different compound. Please tell me you didn't run it for anywhere close to that length of time? And if so, then yeah I'd imagine you had some serious issues, and understandably so. An 8 week cycle of tren is plenty. I personally would be nervous to run it any longer than that. 5 months of insomnia from tren is enough to kill a man, no wonder you had a bad experience.thank you.........he will learn the hard way i guess..........give him 5 months on some ace and he will be wishing he wasnt so hard headed.......
let em die off naturally.............lmaocant save em all
Way to contribute. You tell people they're wrong then add nothing yourself.Has anybody in this thread read
Vidas androgens and anabolics?
Llewellyns anabolics book?
Seth Roberts anabolic pharmacology?
Reas chemical muscle enhancement?
Lots of definitive statements being made in this thread with very little reasoning or rationality
read them all, whats your point tiger?Has anybody in this thread read
Vidas androgens and anabolics?
Llewellyns anabolics book?
Seth Roberts anabolic pharmacology?
Reas chemical muscle enhancement?
Lots of definitive statements being made in this thread with very little reasoning or rationality
lmao.............that was funny ****...........Way to contribute. You tell people they're wrong then add nothing yourself.
you do realize most of those books are from first person accounts of use, steroids arent an exact science........its more trial and error.........read them all, whats your point tiger?
these books are only guidelines for self experimentation, if you dont know yourself, your systems and the possible reactions to these drugs then you have no business using themyou do realize most of those books are from first person accounts of use, steroids arent an exact science........its more trial and error.........
for example i hate tren and deca for its sides.........but test, anavar, eq, and masteron love my body.........not everyone will react the same....
bodybuilding is all experimentation man.........arnold was taking handfuls of dbol and winny precontest, no PCT............he had no guidelines.....just wait and see type of deal...........there is new stuff coming out every 5-10 years that make the market change its course. i think the peptides will slowly phase out AAS altogether...........cant wait to see a book on peptides and SARMSthese books are only guidelines for self experimentation, if you dont know yourself, your systems and the possible reactions to these drugs then you have no business using them
where did you get the idea it was me? lol! dude i would blast and cruise back in the day.........here is an example.........5 months??? Who runs ace for 5 months? Anyone that runs tren a for 5 months is incredibly ignorant. Of course it's harsh, but that's the point. You can't cruise on tren like you can on test, It's a completely different compound. Please tell me you didn't run it for anywhere close to that length of time? And if so, then yeah I'd imagine you had some serious issues, and understandably so. An 8 week cycle of tren is plenty. I personally would be nervous to run it any longer than that. 5 months of insomnia from tren is enough to kill a man, no wonder you had a bad experience.
I dont think peps will phase out test, slin or HGH, already there are too many BS pep companies out there with faked products and just crap. Now there are a few companies that yes are reputible, but I dont think any of these research drugs will replace the basic building blocks of muscle. Now if sum one wanted to release a cholestoral to run with your cycle thats the ticket there.bodybuilding is all experimentation man.........arnold was taking handfuls of dbol and winny precontest, no PCT............he had no guidelines.....just wait and see type of deal...........there is new stuff coming out every 5-10 years that make the market change its course. i think the peptides will slowly phase out AAS altogether...........cant wait to see a book on peptides and SARMS
I didnt tell anyone they were wrong (although many if the post in here are). I just questioned what they are basing their statements off ofWay to contribute. You tell people they're wrong then add nothing yourself.
Really?read them all, whats your point tiger?
No they are notyou do realize most of those books are from first person accounts of use..........
Yes they are a sciencesteroids arent an exact science........its more trial and error
come on man, how many double blind tests you see with steroid users man...........read up on anabolics, the first edition and see how each issue changes..........its from users account and blood work.........that part is science..........but its all off of his own experiences.......I didnt tell anyone they were wrong (although many if the post in here are). I just questioned what they are basing their statements off of
Really?
No they are not
Yes they are a science
um science? where in the testing sections? or are you refering to the small amount of speculation on compounds, based around the known facts of a few compounds. Yes there is nonemclature and other real info there but, its just enough to confuse most and have the rest of us looking to SHW for real world experiments and trialsI didnt tell anyone they were wrong (although many if the post in here are). I just questioned what they are basing their statements off of
Really?
No they are not
Yes they are a science
like Jasen, this is how I do it, I push my envelope, but know my body really well, I have run 30mgs of M1T, and the is nothing compared to the pain you will experience from pushing the tren levels, what level will affect you, is what you will have to play with till you know.Tren is very toxic I used tren e and went up to 1000mg a wk for 2.5 wks to see of te myth is right of tren effects ur kidneys.... My ankles doublespeak in size and I have a huge body but I have small ankles. Also my piss was dark on 3gallons of water. Tren is rough best way to explain using tren is like when spiderman became venom, u get stronger everything gets stronger not just strength. But you lose urself in the drug like spiderman did when he put on the venom. I am strong minded so I had little problems but I had weak minded friends who never returned to their old selfs
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