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Old Fugger Ready to take on all challengers...Transfomation time!!!

DreamWeaver said:
Yah if it gets to be a bit much I can slow my pace...



Yes I decided to give some stuff a go and I was pretty surprised how effective it was. I will compare my final results with last years to ascertain whether it's worth it.

The diet for me has to be very strict....



Thanks, I here it's good for cutting too...
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definitely can get some pretty crazy results! I'd be interested to see your full years comparisons as well. Best of luck!
 
DreamWeaver said:
Thanks, yah will be able to compare pics so the evidence will be there... one way or another...
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How did that Turinabol LV go down for you Doug? I am starting the Epistrong tomorrow so the madness is getting kicked up a notch. Oh and I am adding in AT-2 once I get it, probably Monday for the remainder of the run :).
 
oufinny said:
How did that Turinabol LV go down for you Doug? I am starting the Epistrong tomorrow so the madness is getting kicked up a notch. Oh and I am adding in AT-2 once I get it, probably Monday for the remainder of the run :).
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No issues whatsoever, tastes ok and wouldn't matter that much if it didn't cuz 1.5 ml is a pretty smalll amount so just squirt it down the back of the throat...

Again no extra burn with the Clen, I'll keep this dose for a bit and maybe up the clen to 60mcg or something... lets see how it goes...:mischievous:
 
30 minutes HIT cardio this morning... fasted.

I decided to use 60mcg clen in 2 pumps eviscerate this morning as I will be only dosing once today, now it seems pretty warm but not unbearable, might not be good to dose that high preworkout though. Tomorrow is a big test...
 
DreamWeaver said:
30 minutes HIT cardio this morning... fasted.

I decided to use 60mcg clen in 2 pumps eviscerate this morning as I will be only dosing once today, now it seems pretty warm but not unbearable, might not be good to dose that high preworkout though. Tomorrow is a big test...
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def can't wait for progress pics and results of the big test
 
DreamWeaver said:
So it begins... I started off the day with 40mcg Clen in 2 pumps of Eviscerate, doesn't seem to burn any worse with the clen, I thought that I felt a little jittery stim at first but that is gone so maybe a slight placebo effect.

I will also start 30mg Epi-Strong and 90 mg Turinbol LV today....
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Yes sir!!!!!!!!!!:veryhappy:
 
Got the snot kicked out of me but I soldiered on through... I mean I knew this was coming and was dreading it. This routine was tough when I wasn't dieting...

Day 1
Chest Flat Db press drop 1 3X8 80/70
Tempo 3-1-2 ss
Incline fly drop 1 3X8 60/50
Tempo 3-1-2 ss
Decline press drop 1 3X8 70/60
Tempo 3-1-2


Back Extended lat Pressdown 3X8 60/50
ss Wd Lat Pulldowns 3X8 165/150
ss Reverse pulldowns 3X8 150/135
ss Lat shrugs 3X8 45

Seated row 3X8 120
Reverse grip bo tow 3X8 155

By the second cycle I had to drop the weight by 10 lbs across the board and again on the third cycle. The seated rows ss bent over rows I held the fort through all 3 as they do not have drops...

No extra burn with Clen whatsoever... no sides whatsoever I am up to 60mcg for 2 pumps 2 X daily... and it's already starting to work... things could not be going any better. I got to tell you I don't really care much what the scale says as he visual progress is most obvious...
 
Sounds like you are right on track Doug!!!!
 
Killing it in here as usual Doug. You are just going to look awesome at the end of this. I can't wait to see the end results.
 
oufinny said:
Sounds like you are right on track Doug!!!!
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When you have to push hard all the way through it takes the guesswork out of thngs...

MrKleen73 said:
Killing it in here as usual Doug. You are just going to look awesome at the end of this. I can't wait to see the end results.
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Yah it's starting to look like I might have time to get a little leaner than last year but who knows. Just have to keep on pushing... Can't believe how wide I got doing my back width yesterday, those weighted lat shrugs are fantastic for a finisher...
 
Feeling very large and tight for a prep diet... some good soreness my my chest and back too...

Very tired as I am weening off the diet supps...
 
Weening of is a good thing but hard to deal with. I am giving Lean Gains another shot now. I just had to figure out what type of calorie dense foods to eat. I feel I might have a grasp on it now and am giving it a shot.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Weening of is a good thing but hard to deal with. I am giving Lean Gains another shot now. I just had to figure out what type of calorie dense foods to eat. I feel I might have a grasp on it now and am giving it a shot.
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Lean gains, I can't remember what that is... I'm not in gaining mode right now as I am in this fat firefight, which I seem to be winning.

Fug! another fuggin blizzard!! I will have to shovel snow when I get home from my 5k trudge through the winter tundra, this will be some intensive cardio. This morning I had about 25 lbs of veg in my bag that was a bitch too... Oh well at least the load will be light while I'm trudging throgh the knee deep fuggin snow!!
 
DreamWeaver said:
Lean gains, I can't remember what that is... I'm not in gaining mode right now as I am in this fat firefight, which I seem to be winning.

Fug! another fuggin blizzard!! I will have to shovel snow when I get home from my 5k trudge through the winter tundra, this will be some intensive cardio. This morning I had about 25 lbs of veg in my bag that was a bitch too... Oh well at least the load will be light while I'm trudging throgh the knee deep fuggin snow!!
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Good to know you are kicking the fats a$$ through the fight DW!!

...and do me a favor and keep that fuggin blizzard where you are. We got enough of that fuggin white stuff this winter in my neck of the woods!! lol
 
RickRock13 said:
Good to know you are kicking the fats a$$ through the fight DW!!

...and do me a favor and keep that fuggin blizzard where you are. We got enough of that fuggin white stuff this winter in my neck of the woods!! lol
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Yah we still have another month or so left...:banghead:
 
Sunday
8am .5 cups oats
2 scoop protein
fish oil 3 grams

10:00 AM Workout

12pm Shake 2 scopps protein

1pm 2 pieces ezekiel bread
1can tuna

3pm 2 scoops protein

5pm 10 oz chicken breast cooked
1 cups rice
2 cup brocolli
3 grams fish oil

8pm 2 scoop protein
 
Monday
8am 1/2 cup steel cut oats
2 scoop protein
fish oil 3 grams

10am 2 boiled eggs
2 cups brocolli
1 cup Cauliflower
1 cup green beens
1/2 red or yellow pepper

12pm 10 oz chicken
2 cups brocolli
1 cup Cauliflower
1 cup green beens
1/2 red or yellow pepper
1 cup black beans
3 grams fish oil

230pm 2 boiled eggs

5pm 10 oz chicken
1 cup rice
2 cups brocolli
1 cup Cauliflower
1 cup green beens

8pm 2 scoop protein
 
Walk to work was brutal again as the slush turned to solid ice.. I had my spikes on but it was touigh going, good workout.

Man my tits are sore!! Lats too... feel very tight though...

Shoulders and arms tonight, the munchkins will be pissed tonight when I hog all the db's ... oh well.. gotta do what I gotta do...

Starting to feel alpha but somewhat tired still from going cold turkey from stims... I slept really well so hope to feel better as the day wears on.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Walk to work was brutal again as the slush turned to solid ice.. I had my spikes on but it was touigh going, good workout.

Man my tits are sore!! Lats too... feel very tight though...

Shoulders and arms tonight, the munchkins will be pissed tonight when I hog all the db's ... oh well.. gotta do what I gotta do...

Starting to feel alpha but somewhat tired still from going cold turkey from stims... I slept really well so hope to feel better as the day wears on.
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Doug you should be able to add in something like Alpha-T2 or Recreate if you want a small amount of stimulation and to get those fatty acids flowing. I am using Forged Burner and some AT-2 as we speak, literal inferno going on inside me with the GH frag on top of it! :dance:
 
Keeping it consistent! Keep up the good work...
 
oufinny said:
Doug you should be able to add in something like Alpha-T2 or Recreate if you want a small amount of stimulation and to get those fatty acids flowing. I am using Forged Burner and some AT-2 as we speak, literal inferno going on inside me with the GH frag on top of it! :dance:
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I would add it in but I was on AT2 for 7 weeks so I'll give it a few weeks...

punthra said:
Keeping it consistent! Keep up the good work...
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Yah being as anal and compulsive as I am conssitancy is not that hard to come by...:approve:
 
DreamWeaver said:
I would add it in but I was on AT2 for 7 weeks so I'll give it a few weeks...
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Throw it in the last four weeks of your cycle, that will work perfect. I am finishing my T3 this week then transitioning to AT-2, less chance of muscle loss with it (well none actually!).

Doug - since you probably have some motivate around, just 1 here or there will not be a big deal for you or your BP. After a few days I was good to go with mild amounts of stims as long as I didn't overdo it and had adequate water intake.
 
oufinny said:
Throw it in the last four weeks of your cycle, that will work perfect. I am finishing my T3 this week then transitioning to AT-2, less chance of muscle loss with it (well none actually!).
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That in fact is the plan...:22:
 
DreamWeaver said:
Got the snot kicked out of me but I soldiered on through... I mean I knew this was coming and was dreading it. This routine was tough when I wasn't dieting...

Day 1
Chest Flat Db press drop 1 3X8 80/70
Tempo 3-1-2 ss
Incline fly drop 1 3X8 60/50
Tempo 3-1-2 ss
Decline press drop 1 3X8 70/60
Tempo 3-1-2


Back Extended lat Pressdown 3X8 60/50
ss Wd Lat Pulldowns 3X8 165/150
ss Reverse pulldowns 3X8 150/135
ss Lat shrugs 3X8 45

Seated row 3X8 120
Reverse grip bo tow 3X8 155

By the second cycle I had to drop the weight by 10 lbs across the board and again on the third cycle. The seated rows ss bent over rows I held the fort through all 3 as they do not have drops...

No extra burn with Clen whatsoever... no sides whatsoever I am up to 60mcg for 2 pumps 2 X daily... and it's already starting to work... things could not be going any better. I got to tell you I don't really care much what the scale says as he visual progress is most obvious...
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Nice workout looking forward to the pics.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Starting to feel somewhat tired still from going cold turkey from stims....
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oufinny said:
Doug you should be able to add in something like Alpha-T2 or Recreate if you want a small amount of stimulation and to get those fatty acids flowing! :dance:
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DreamWeaver said:
I would add it in but I was on AT2 for 7 weeks so I'll give it a few weeks...
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Doug, are you a coffee drinker? I love my morning cup of Joe. I use a rather large cup and it probably affords me 300 mgs. of caffiene to get me going for my early morning workouts.
 
A_I_Sports_Nutrition said:
Nice workout looking forward to the pics.
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mich29 said:
I second the pics very interested in this
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Might get up some one month out pics later this month, going to be interesting...

thundergod said:
Doug, are you a coffee drinker? I love my morning cup of Joe. I use a rather large cup and it probably affords me 300 mgs. of caffiene to get me going for my early morning workouts.
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Never developed the habit and don't really want to as it would tend to desensitize me further.
 
Got tired of feeling slugish and popped some motivate and crushed it at the gym.... 40 minutes hard core pumpage!!

Day 2
Shoulders Reverse bo rows drop 1 3X8 30/25
ss L-lateral raise drop 1 3X8 25/20
ss Front raise drop 1 3X8 25/20


Arms Incline low pulley ext drop 1 3X8 120/100
ss incline alt db curl drop 1 3X8 40/30
ss X face extension drop 1 3X8 30/25
ss Prone db curl drop 1 3X8 30/25

Had to drop X face to 25/20 on the 3rd cycle.

Today I am feeling pretty perky which is surprising... maybe I'm entering the zone!! Oh boy!!
 
DreamWeaver said:
Today I am feeling pretty perky which is surprising... maybe I'm entering the zone!! Oh boy!!
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Starting to feel "on" already. Great feeling.

Time to burst the surly bonds that bind him, and unleash the inner beast. :saevil:
 
thundergod said:
Starting to feel "on" already. Great feeling.

Time to burst the surly bonds that bind him, and unleash the inner beast. :saevil:
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Damn straight THUNDER!
 
thundergod said:
Starting to feel "on" already. Great feeling.

Time to burst the surly bonds that bind him, and unleash the inner beast. :saevil:
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Sounds familiar.. yah that's what you do to get into the zone, in fact that's what the zone is!!

Yah day 6 and feeling it.. another thing my libido is in-fuggin-sane!! I know you guys are used to hearing this from me but this is Primal!!

oufinny said:
Damn straight THUNDER!
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Yep!! :yikes: :approve:
 
Here comes the fun!
 
Good to see this thing starting off with a bang!!...

Has the old lady told you to put your stick away yet? :stick: lol
 
Noticed my abs popping a bit more and some decent size considering my deflated state. Still lots of work to do and time is still an issue but progress is being made...

Was freezing cold this morning -4 farenheit colder with the wind... hope I've seen the last of that ..
 
Yesterdays Diet

8am 1/2 cup steel cut oats
2 scoop protein
fish oil 3 grams

10am 2 boiled eggs
2 cups brocolli
1 cup Cauliflower
1 cup green beens
1/2 red or yellow pepper

12pm 10 oz chicken
2 cups brocolli
1 cup Cauliflower
1 cup green beens
1/2 red or yellow pepper
1/cup black beans
3 grams fish oil

230pm 2 boiled eggs

5pm 14 oz Fish
1 cup rice
2 cups brocolli
1 cup Cauliflower

8pm 2 scoop protein
 
That is frickin' cold! I have a hard enough time waiting for my car to warm up when it's 25 F!
 
DreamWeaver said:
Noticed my abs popping a bit more and some decent size considering my deflated state. Still lots of work to do and time is still an issue but progress is being made...

Was freezing cold this morning -4 farenheit colder with the wind... hope I've seen the last of that ..
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Yeah it was in the low 70s when I left the house this morning Doug... :dance:
 
DreamWeaver said:
Fug off... :banghead: :****you: :approve:
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It's relative though Doug, when I am working out and it is 100 outside and the gym is that temperature as well, it will be my day of torture like yours today. That doesn't warm you up on the walk though ;).
 
DreamWeaver said:
Noticed my abs popping a bit more and some decent size considering my deflated state. Still lots of work to do and time is still an issue but progress is being made...

Was freezing cold this morning -4 farenheit colder with the wind... hope I've seen the last of that ..
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:yikes::yikes::yikes:
 
oufinny said:
It's relative though Doug, when I am working out and it is 100 outside and the gym is that temperature as well, it will be my day of torture like yours today. That doesn't warm you up on the walk though ;).
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Gym doesn't have air conditioning ?
 
DreamWeaver said:
Gym doesn't have air conditioning ?
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It does but it is a warehouse so I hear it gets toasty in the summer. There are big fans and from what I see an AC system. All the luxuries you see at other gyms just aren't at Metroflex, it is all about lifting. They are cleaning it up some though and modernizing the electronics, orginization of the gym and a few other things. It is coming around from when I first went there on day one.
 
oufinny said:
It does but it is a warehouse so I hear it gets toasty in the summer. There are big fans and from what I see an AC system. All the luxuries you see at other gyms just aren't at Metroflex, it is all about lifting. They are cleaning it up some though and modernizing the electronics, orginization of the gym and a few other things. It is coming around from when I first went there on day one.
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Ok, cuz it really is tough to get a good workout dont in excessive heat....

Hey does anybody know if Deiselbolan and Helladrol make a good stack.. I have been wondering for a summer stack and alternatives are getting scarce...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Ok, cuz it really is tough to get a good workout dont in excessive heat....

Hey does anybody know if Deiselbolan and Helladrol make a good stack.. I have been wondering for a summer stack and alternatives are getting scarce...
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I personally don't like the idea of running 2 methylated compounds. I don't know alot about the Dieselbolan but the Helladrol looks like a h-drol clone of sorts.
 
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