Old Fugger Ready to take on all challengers...Transfomation time!!!

VolcomX311 said:
Cool, thanks Milas. I'd rep you but I've repped you too recently. I need to spread more love around.
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Just don't contract something as you're spreading that love... :bling:
 
VolcomX311 said:
lol. When my wife has a cold or something and we get our marital coitus on, if I end up catching her cold, I tell her she gave me an STD.
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I bet that goes over well... :privateeye:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Hey DW or anyone who can answer this, when taking Nolva during the first two weeks of 20/20, do I take the 10mg tabs in two split doses AM/PM? or both at once? Thanks a bunch.
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Long half-life. No reason to split it up. Take both tabs at night before going to bed. That's the way I dose SERMs and AIs. :thumbsup:
 
thundergod said:
Long half-life. No reason to split it up. Take both tabs at night before going to bed. That's the way I dose SERMs and AIs. :thumbsup:
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Before bed, is that a better way to go. I always dose first thing am...

Just an observation... based on what I am seeing in the mirror my fat loss this time around is way more prominent than last year. I feel that keeping my protein above or around 300 grams has made the difference. 15 lbs looks like a lot more loss than I would have guessed.. I won't be fooled but what I see in the mirror though, long way to go and only 9 weeks left, this is a firefight of that I have no doubt...
 
Just to reinforce the point of not letting what I see in the mirror cloud my judgment .. 30 minutes fasted HITT, no coasting for this old fugger!!
 
thundergod said:
Long half-life. No reason to split it up. Take both tabs at night before going to bed. That's the way I dose SERMs and AIs. :thumbsup:
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DreamWeaver said:
Before bed, is that a better way to go? I always dose first thing am......
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There will be those that disagree with me on this. But in my opinion, test levels are higher at night. In fact all hormone levels seem to rise during sleep. Testosterone, GH, etc.
Estrogen also. When there's a rise in testosterone, there will always be a subsequent rise in estradiol also via aromatization.

Since these levels appear to rise during the night, it's my conclusion to run SERMs and AIs at night before going to sleep. :deal:

You'll wake up with raging morning wood........:aargh:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Hey DW or anyone who can answer this, when taking Nolva during the first two weeks of 20/20, do I take the 10mg tabs in two split doses AM/PM? or both at once? Thanks a bunch.
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SERMS do have a very very long half life that is measured in days instead of hours, so it is my understanding that dosing all at once is the way to do it, and the time of day to dose is also irrelevant:afro:
 
thundergod said:
There will be those that disagree with me on this. But in my opinion, test levels are higher at night. In fact all hormone levels seem to rise during sleep. Testosterone, GH, etc.
Estrogen also. When there's a rise in testosterone, there will always be a subsequent rise in estradiol also via aromatization.

Since these levels appear to rise during the night, it's my conclusion to run SERMs and AIs at night before going to sleep. :deal:

You'll wake up with raging morning wood........:aargh:
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TG I didn't know that man, makes it quite convenient that way as well. Nothing better than some good morning wood to wake up to.
 
great log
 
Looks like everything is going excellent in here.
 
thundergod said:
There will be those that disagree with me on this. But in my opinion, test levels are higher at night. In fact all hormone levels seem to rise during sleep. Testosterone, GH, etc.
Estrogen also. When there's a rise in testosterone, there will always be a subsequent rise in estradiol also via aromatization.

Since these levels appear to rise during the night, it's my conclusion to run SERMs and AIs at night before going to sleep. :deal:

You'll wake up with raging morning wood........:aargh:
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Yah I always do, that is beyond a doubt my most amorous time of the day...

oufinny said:
TG I didn't know that man, makes it quite convenient that way as well. Nothing better than some good morning wood to wake up to.
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I would like to have a break from it once in a while... a man my age does not need a libido like a 20 year old..

quarcus said:
great log
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Thanks. been a group effort...

MrKleen73 said:
Looks like everything is going excellent in here.
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I am pleased so far, had my carb up on Friday night and right back to business on Saturday with HITT cardio.. I am doing some deload work but started doing my abs with some heavy duty weight today. I could only do 1 wheel of death, been away from it too long...
 
Glad to see that things are still going well for you big man!
 
punthra said:
Glad to see that things are still going well for you big man!
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thaniks and they should be gettting a whole lot better very soon...

Turinabol 3ml ed = 90mg ed weeks 1-6
Androhard 5ml twice dail weeks 2-8
Epi 30mg ed days 1-10 45mg ed days 11-14
S4 50mg ed weeks 3-5, 75mg ed weeks 6-8
Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade 5ml 2 X 2 days weeks 7-8 5 days weeks 9-12
Toco-8 1 scoop ed weeks 6-12
EndoAmp 1 scoop ed weeks 9-12
Cycle support 1 scoop 2x daily weeks 1-12 and preloaded 2 weeks
Toremifene 60 ed weeks 9-12
Phytoserms 3 ed weeks 9-12
IGH DES 40 mg bilat wd 40 total ed am weeks 1-4, 8-12 or might just go for first 50 days
Testopro 6ed weeks 9-12
Erase 2 ed weeks 9-12
Clenviscerate weeks 1-2, 5-6
Eviscerate weeks 3-4, 7-8..

This should be most of it... might add things as time goes on.. I have a bit of OEP and Alpha T2 left so might run that in there as well...
 
Holy Crap!!!! With that we should see an amazing transformation....
 
Yesterday's feed

8am .5 cups oats
2 scoop protein
fish oil 3 grams

10:00 AM Workout

12pm Shake 2 scopps protein

1pm 2 pieces ezekiel bread
1can tuna

3pm 2 scoops protein

5pm 10 oz chicken breast cooked
1 cups rice
2 cup brocolli
3 grams fish oil

8pm 2 scoop protein
 
DreamWeaver said:
thaniks and they should be gettting a whole lot better very soon...

Turinabol 3ml ed = 90mg ed weeks 1-6
Androhard 5ml twice dail weeks 2-8
Epi 30mg ed days 1-10 45mg ed days 11-14
S4 50mg ed weeks 3-5, 75mg ed weeks 6-8
Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade 5ml 2 X 2 days weeks 7-8 5 days weeks 9-12
Toco-8 1 scoop ed weeks 6-12
EndoAmp 1 scoop ed weeks 9-12
Cycle support 1 scoop 2x daily weeks 1-12 and preloaded 2 weeks
Toremifene 60 ed weeks 9-12
Phytoserms 3 ed weeks 9-12
IGH DES 40 mg bilat wd 40 total ed am weeks 1-4, 8-12 or might just go for first 50 days
Testopro 6ed weeks 9-12
Erase 2 ed weeks 9-12
Clenviscerate weeks 1-2, 5-6
Eviscerate weeks 3-4, 7-8..

This should be most of it... might add things as time goes on.. I have a bit of OEP and Alpha T2 left so might run that in there as well...
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You sir are stealing pages out of my playbook. Love the stack Doug, hope you have reminders set to take everything!!! I have a list so I don't forget, that sir would require alarms to keep track of it all. :drillsergeant:
 
oufinny said:
You sir are stealing pages out of my playbook. Love the stack Doug, hope you have reminders set to take everything!!! I have a list so I don't forget, that sir would require alarms to keep track of it all. :drillsergeant:
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Yah I have a spreadsheet I update to make sure of these kinds of things, still it's a lot to remember....:surprised:
 
wow, that stack looks ridiculously awesome. the old fugger is going to look like the fugging hulk when he finishes all that.
 
Legacyfighter said:
wow, that stack looks ridiculously awesome. the old fugger is going to look like the fugging hulk when he finishes all that.
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Yes he will, some of us young whipper snappers will too!
 
Just crazy that cycle will be insane.
 
VolcomX311 said:
That's one pimp daddy list there DW :afro:
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Yah been wanting to hit a real hardening cutting stack for quite some time...

Legacyfighter said:
wow, that stack looks ridiculously awesome. the old fugger is going to look like the fugging hulk when he finishes all that.
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I hope I can keep my mass with this and get harder and leaner at the same time...

oufinny said:
Yes he will, some of us young whipper snappers will too!
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Yah I am sure there will be some awesome transformations...

MrKleen73 said:
Just crazy that cycle will be insane.
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I am anxious to get started, first dosing starts Friday...
 
DreamWeaver said:
thaniks and they should be gettting a whole lot better very soon...

Turinabol 3ml ed = 90mg ed weeks 1-6
Androhard 5ml twice dail weeks 2-8
Epi 30mg ed days 1-10 45mg ed days 11-14
S4 50mg ed weeks 3-5, 75mg ed weeks 6-8
Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade 5ml 2 X 2 days weeks 7-8 5 days weeks 9-12
Toco-8 1 scoop ed weeks 6-12
EndoAmp 1 scoop ed weeks 9-12
Cycle support 1 scoop 2x daily weeks 1-12 and preloaded 2 weeks
Toremifene 60 ed weeks 9-12
Phytoserms 3 ed weeks 9-12
IGH DES 40 mg bilat wd 40 total ed am weeks 1-4, 8-12 or might just go for first 50 days
Testopro 6ed weeks 9-12
Erase 2 ed weeks 9-12
Clenviscerate weeks 1-2, 5-6
Eviscerate weeks 3-4, 7-8..

This should be most of it... might add things as time goes on.. I have a bit of OEP and Alpha T2 left so might run that in there as well...
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this was worth the wait to see.amazing cycle idea
 
VolcomX311 said:
I think I was still more impressed by an old uber PRIME run you did awhile back. 15 caps a day or something, cause PRIME is second in price only to the Androseries, lol.
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I never payed anywhere near full price for Prime, there was always a lot of deals back then. I just did a 12 cap ed run with the swole stack as a bridge...

mich29 said:
this was worth the wait to see.amazing cycle idea
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Geared to a purpose, aiming for my weak points....:drillsergeant:
 
DreamWeaver said:
I never payed anywhere near full price for Prime, there was always a lot of deals back then. I just did a 12 cap ed run with the swole stack as a bridge...

Geared to a purpose, aiming for my weak points....:drillsergeant:
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Are you still responding well to Prime DW? Last time I took it, it was not the same for me as the first time. It seems like each time is the law of diminishing returns, need more and more to get average results. Recovery is there but body recomp and strength gains were not.
 
oufinny said:
Are you still responding well to Prime DW? Last time I took it, it was not the same for me as the first time. It seems like each time is the law of diminishing returns, need more and more to get average results. Recovery is there but body recomp and strength gains were not.
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Yah I noticed something similar, but now that I've experienced hormonal products it's a tough thing to guage, sort of skews your expectations...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah I noticed something similar, but now that I've experienced hormonal products it's a tough thing to guage, sort of skews your expectations...
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True that DW, it seems like a lost cause almost or you have to put together such a ridiculous stack it begs the question, why am I bothering? Plus, with peptides and Osta-sarms I think you can do some impressive things with little risk. And then there is the idea of doing pulse cycles with something like superdrol, slow, dry gains that stay on instead of fighting the sides for a 3-4 week blast.
 
oufinny said:
True that DW, it seems like a lost cause almost or you have to put together such a ridiculous stack it begs the question, why am I bothering? Plus, with peptides and Osta-sarms I think you can do some impressive things with little risk. And then there is the idea of doing pulse cycles with something like superdrol, slow, dry gains that stay on instead of fighting the sides for a 3-4 week blast.
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I am very favourable to EPI-Strong for the dry gains... It's good with Dermatherm... Still have to bridge though, so I will be using swole etc... oh and Osta can be a big part of that too, depeinding how long it can be run..
 
DreamWeaver said:
I am very favourable to EPI-Strong for the dry gains... It's good with Dermatherm... Still have to bridge though, so I will be using swole etc... oh and Osta can be a big part of that too, depeinding how long it can be run..
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For bridging purposes you are correct, herbals play a great role and being sponsored it is an option/luxury you have so I would use it. Swole is a great stack, never ran it all together, just separate. I like the idea of a nutrient partitioner, osta-sarms and some peptides for the bridge after PCT for 6-8 weeks. Then hop on another cycle. :privateeye:
 
DreamWeaver said:
I am very favourable to EPI-Strong for the dry gains... It's good with Dermatherm... Still have to bridge though, so I will be using swole etc... oh and Osta can be a big part of that too, depeinding how long it can be run..
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I've heard a lot of mature lifters say that Epi and Formestane are an older lifter's best friends. You have your anabolic and anti-estrogen capabilities going strong with these 2.

Great legal combo.
 
thundergod said:
I've heard a lot of mature lifters say that Epi and Formestane are an older lifter's best friends. You have your anabolic and anti-estrogen capabilities going strong with these 2.

Great legal combo.
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Yah that's why I went with it, I would be hesitant to use formestane on cycle though pct seems the wiser choice as EPI is supposed to have anti E properties...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah that's why I went with it, I would be hesitant to use formestane on cycle though pct seems the wiser choice as EPI is supposed to have anti E properties...
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I would think adding it in week 3 of PCT would be a great option... any sooner I see it causing some issues with joint discomfort, especially after Epi. I like Erase as it helps with cortisol rebound as well. I do want to try formestane though, all I hear are GREAT things about it.
 
oufinny said:
I would think adding it in week 3 of PCT would be a great option... any sooner I see it causing some issues with joint discomfort, especially after Epi. I like Erase as it helps with cortisol rebound as well. I do want to try formestane though, all I hear are GREAT things about it.
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Formestane is good no doubt, erase id good too, I will go erase PCT and Formestane during bridge I think..
 
DreamWeaver said:
Formestane is good no doubt, erase id good too, I will go erase PCT and Formestane during bridge I think..
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Good thinking. I want to run this forma-stanazol from Mr. Supps, I hear it is really good. BigT said it is his favorite and like you Doug, he knows his formestane.
 
oufinny said:
Good thinking. I want to run this forma-stanazol from Mr. Supps, I hear it is really good. BigT said it is his favorite and like you Doug, he knows his formestane.
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He's the guy I go to advice about Formestane...
 
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