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They did this at Orange County Airport, and this was right after I got out of the Army. I ended up talking to one of them....

....they had no ammo.
Same for the ones who were in the subways of NYC, at least according to a friend of mine. But hey, the sheeple felt safer. Which they would, most of them not knowing that last century well over 100 million people were killed... by their own governments.
 
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Pissing off muslim extremists? Doesn't the "extremist" name imply they are pissed off already?
No it implies that "pissing off Muslim extremists by engaging in policies that give them a ready supply of recruits" is how we end up with people flying planes into buildings. You'll note no doubt with your keen perception and firm grasp of the situation that the 'leaders' of this movement never seem to be strapping on the bombs themselves. They're always getting others to do it for them in the name of the cause. Which would lead one to wonder where this ready supply of willing suicide bombers and people willing to fight their entire lives while surviving on goat jerky and barely potable water comes from. One might want to consider that after engaging in policies that have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not millions according to UN numbers to include deaths related to sanctions, that there might be some pissed off people in the area that see US policy as their main problem, and after seeing a few loved ones die they might be willing to do otherwise weird **** like exploding in discos or flying planes into buildings.

**** them, the middle east is a joke and when oil is no longer needed for fuel they will wither and die in that miserable desert. Its not our fault that they are animals with nothing better to do then terrorize people for the sake of religion.
They are people with kids, and who love their kids and families just as much as your parents loved you and you love your own kids, you pathetic excuse for a human being. But then that is always the first tactic in getting a nice profitable war going: dehumanize the enemy so the home population doesn't react with horror at seeing them turned into chopped meat and their kids' heads blown off. I assure you, those "animals" over there bleed red, feel pain, have dreams, fall in love, and get pissed off just as readily as any other human being. Your blatant and disgusting attempt to paint them as less than human only reflects on what you actually are: less than human.

Ask veterans at walter reed medical center who have been ripped apart by IED's if the government is employing "fake" means of protecting us from these towel headed bastards,
Other than assuming your own conclusion again, all you demonstrate with this sentence is your disgusting attitude towards other people.

because I would bet that they believed enough in the government that you trash in order to sacrifice their bodies while you complain about the incompetence of the system.
Oh great, another dip**** whose going to use the If Our Soldiers Got Hurt Or Died For It, It Must Be Good argument. Our soldiers are honorable for the sacrifice they are willing to make. Our politicians are lying thieving pieces of ****, elected by dim bulbs such as yourself, who use our soldier's honor to implement ill informed policies that lead to more bloodshed and wasted lives in furtherance of their dip**** ideas of how the world should be.

If you don't like it, change it.
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FYI... I amposting from 30,000ft right now. So far no one has tried to blow up the plane, but Idis stayat a Holiday Inn Experess last night. For reals though I did get randomely selected for a physical screening/pat down and they threw away a bottle of tea out of the Mrs' purse. I wonder what's so threatening about a me? The Mrs should have been screened, I mean everyone knows that short 5" Asian girls are far more sneaky and devious than your average white male. At least mine is.. Haha, guess they are not profiling yet. All in all not really a bad experiamce for me, but my flight was early on a Wed and went through the gates where the slows airlines were. Should have seen the lines at some of the other terminals. The pat down was a joke though, he got my legs pretty good up to my upper thigh, jumped to my waist/mid section, and said I was good. Skipped my whole crotch/hips, arms etc. If I had explosive underwear or, oh I dunno, a ceramic knife or something I would have been golden.

Whatever, as long as I get home. I meed to rest from this vacattion before flying out of country this weekend. That's where I'll really be able to put these measures under scrutiny.

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FYI... I amposting from 30,000ft right now. So far no one has tried to blow up the plane, but Idis stayat a Holiday Inn Experess last night. For reals though I did get randomely selected for a physical screening/pat down and they threw away a bottle of tea out of the Mrs' purse. I wonder what's so threatening about a me? The Mrs should have been screened, I mean everyone knows that short 5" Asian girls are far more sneaky and devious than your average white male. At least mine is.. Haha, guess they are not profiling yet. All in all not really a bad experiamce for me, but my flight was early on a Wed and went through the gates where the slows airlines were. Should have seen the lines at some of the other terminals. The pat down was a joke though, he got my legs pretty good up to my upper thigh, jumped to my waist/mid section, and said I was good. Skipped my whole crotch/hips, arms etc. If I had explosive underwear or, oh I dunno, a ceramic knife or something I would have been golden.

Whatever, as long as I get home. I meed to rest from this vacattion before flying out of country this weekend. That's where I'll really be able to put these measures under scrutiny.

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I think it was an asian woman that said "boom boom long time". They were obviously foreshadowing malicious intent to blow up planes.
 
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I think it was an asian woman that said "boom boom long time". They were obviously foreshadowing malicious intent to blow up planes.
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I think it was an asian woman that said "boom boom long time". They were obviously foreshadowing malicious intent to blow up planes.
i don't trust asian women either. and that includes half of my family :)
 
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Obama Wins against the constitution and due process!
President Barack Obama is prodding House and Senate Democrats to get him a final health care bill as soon as possible, encouraging them to bypass the usual negotiations between the two chambers in the interest of speed.
 
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Obama Wins against the constitution and due process!
Wait a minute...Pelosi said the whole process has been transparent.
 
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Judo,

It's the same reason all the same people 'felt safer' when guys with M16s were in the airports right after 9/11. Just in case some mad arab with a bomb or bio weapon decided to storm the gate to get on a plane, they'd take him down...

All you're ever going to get from the state is organized imbecility. They'll institute rules, **** will still happen, institute more rules, etc., etc., etc. It's the perfect example of how the state functions, the lack of accountability and effectiveness, and why it shouldn't be trusted. Doesn't even matter who is in charge, the **** ups will continue. And one day another plane will go BOOM and some dip**** in the security department will say, "But how can that be, we don't serve steak anymore...?" And be honestly baffled as to why their directive to ban all red meat from airplanes didn't result is safer skies.

Literally laughed uncontrollably when i read this. . I could see this happening.
 
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Literally laughed uncontrollably when i read this. . I could see this happening.
It's already happened, technically. I guarantee some dip**** and likely more than one is going over the list of banned items, everything from nail clippers to shampoo and other "gels", and wondering what possibly could have gone wrong.
 
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It's already happened, technically. I guarantee some dip**** and likely more than one is going over the list of banned items, everything from nail clippers to shampoo and other "gels", and wondering what possibly could have gone wrong.
I am actually seeing CNN become highly critical of this administration, oddly sparked by these incidents.

The same day, they also jumped all over the non-transparency of the HC debates.

Shift of MSM support?
 
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I am actually seeing CNN become highly critical of this administration, oddly sparked by these incidents.

The same day, they also jumped all over the non-transparency of the HC debates.

Shift of MSM support?
I think the back room deals and promise of tranparency is going to be the shot in the foot at this point. Now with Ben Nelson saying he shouldnt have signed on to this HC bill. The dems really are setting all their people up for failure... shove through their ideals through now, and let the next congress deal with all the failures.
 
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I think the back room deals and promise of tranparency is going to be the shot in the foot at this point. Now with Ben Nelson saying he shouldnt have signed on to this HC bill. The dems really are setting all their people up for failure... shove through their ideals through now, and let the next congress deal with all the failures.
They know it's virtually impossible to revoke legislation once enacted.
 
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They know it's virtually impossible to revoke legislation once enacted.
There are plenty of ways to kill the negative effects of this bill without revoking it. a lot could even be done using just reconciliation to change the spending portions.
 
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They know it's virtually impossible to revoke legislation once enacted.
dont forget the wording in the senate HC bill has a precedent where it CANNOT be revoked or changed by future senates. This is where it gets very hazy with constitutionality. It would be pretty highly revokable without that clause since the actual benefits did not kick in till 2015, if people are on the dole, then you have a hell of a time revoking a social program. Look at SS, that was supposed to be temporary.
 
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The greatest nation in the history of the earth. America has become great because of it's PEOPLE not because of its government. The Civil Rights movement at its core was a good thing but like most other bureaucratical institutions has been perverted to serve political purposes'. Government was looked up on by our founding fathers as a necessary evil and it was wildly believed across party lines that we should institute as little as possible.

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish
and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children,
establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation
down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power
of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature
of the limited Government established by the people of America."
- James Madison
The government formed by the people for the people has fallen into the hands of corrupt politicians, of 308mil Americans 68% are voting age thats 209 mil potintial voters in the 2008 presidential election 131mil votes were counted and without controversy some of those votes were not my legal citizen voters. So then that's 77-85mil Americans that could have voted and didn't - and that's for a presidential election - the house, senate state and civic election turn outs are in the 20%-40% range in non-presidential years

It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt. - John Philpot Curran 1790
...we may define a republic to be, or at least may bestow that name on, a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure, for a limited period, or during good behavior. James Madison (Federalist Papers #39)
Apathy will prove to be the undoing of our republic. Representatives are no longer held to a standard of 'good behavior' by their districts but they are held in power by their special interest groups.

In politics, an organized minority is a political majority. - Jessie Jackson
Much of what is done in the way of legislation is to appease the corporations, unions, and various other 'organized minorities'. The best barometer of a politicians loyalties can be found on their campaign contributor list.

The 77-80 mill Americans who don't vote in presidential elections could change everything... If they would take the time to educate themselves. The media wont do it for them as of now they have a fat seat at the table of plenty. GE the parent co. to NBC received $140bil in taxpayer bailout money (money that was supposed to go to shovel ready jobs). How much has GE given to politicians over the pest 10 years? $7.9 million

So for the bargain price of 8mil GE gets $140bil of our money. In return politicians get more voters organized under the banner of labor unions then they could ever bring to the poles by running on the issues. and that's just one example... Google gave Obama $291,183 they now develop the software for GE's Smart Grid (basically its google analytics using the nations power grids like the internet and each home and apartment like a website with monitored stats) The list goes on and on... if the 77-85mill continue to do nothing we will fall...

(also for the record Soviet troops liberated Auschwitz, The GI bill is a great Idea but poorly administered, and Women's sufferage was in 1894 *over 100 years ago)
 
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They did this at Orange County Airport, and this was right after I got out of the Army. I ended up talking to one of them....

....they had no ammo.
I worked with a guy in Charlotte that was a sergeant in the air guard. He was called up several times over the pond in Oman and Iraq and also pulled time at Charlotte Douglas airport. I can tell you his was loaded and he had open orders to shoot anyone that did not comply with their orders. They were serious.
 
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I am actually seeing CNN become highly critical of this administration, oddly sparked by these incidents.

The same day, they also jumped all over the non-transparency of the HC debates.

Shift of MSM support?
I doubt that CNN will start supporting Republicans. But if Obama keeps this disapprovall shindig running, theres no telling who CNN will support.... I mean he a appointed trans-gender!? Am I being too cohars on that subject? Is he helping us, or hurting us? The extremists in the middle east dont want anything to do with him, and as of present, Americans disapprove. Its worrysome I tell ya!
 

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i think racial profiling is when you arrest or harass someone for no reason, i call screening foreigners and muslims saving lives

if white americans were blowing up planes in one of there countries, i would have no problem if they wanted to screen white americans and would think they were stupid if they didnt
 

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1. Civil Rights Movement
2. Freeing Jews from Auschwitz
3. Destroying Hitler and the Axis of evil
4. GI bill to provide veterans with a fair shot at education
5. Women's sufferage

Thats five off of the top of my head, I hate how everyone sh!ts on the government but sits behind their computer with freedom and security. Go live in Iraq if you don't like the government here. Our government is the best around, proven. Our constitution is the longest successful set of rules in history.
So unless you know what your talking about:bryce:

And I believe the word you were fishing for was "slightest" amount of competence
You're kidding, right? #1 & 5 were forced through public opinion and in extremely an invasive and unequal manner. Affirmative action? Welfare? The Cloward/Piven strategy shows how weak the government solutions are. Oh and what do you think was one of the primary causes of Prohibition? Organizations like the Women's Christian Temperance Union. Great job, early female voters, causing the mafia wars of the 20's and essentially setting the stage for the later unconstitutional War on Drugs and every other unconstitutional regulatory federal power the government has generously given itself.

#2: Freeing Jews from Auschwitz? That was THE SOVIET RED ARMY. Good grasp of history on that one too. Thanks, Commies!

#3 Destroying the Axis of Evil? lol The Axis Powers were not referred to as the Axis of Evil, that's from a G.W. Bush delivered speech on Iraq, Iran and North Korea. As for Hitler, again, the popular historical conception is that he killed himself before THE SOVIET RED ARMY invaded Berlin, killing and raping hundreds of thousands of civilians along the way. Thanks again, Commies!

#4 is another redistribution scheme designed to get more kids to sacrifice themselves to the Imperial American War Machine. It's nice that they get to go to college. Maybe we should consider paying them more while they're in active service instead of giving all the money to overpaid companies like Halliburton and XE for things soldiers were already doing.

Your concept of history is highly incomplete, and the typical neocon argument of "You don't like it here? Go live in Iraq" or some other country like France or whatever is funny, considering two things.

#1 The government there was installed by the U.S. (at the cost of oh, only a million or so Iraqi lives, I wonder why middle-easterners might hate us) and should therefore be pretty free, right?

#2 That's the typical neoconservative shtick which should honestly be phrased, "You don't support our Fascisocialist agenda? Well don't do anything radical like try to restore the Constitutional Republic. Instead, go live in some other similarly globalized country elsewhere that speaks a different language and must be less free than us, though I say that with no actual evidence in support. Now excuse me while I go watch the USA PATRIOT Act renewal celebration on Fox News"

If our government is so great, why don't they follow the Constitution?
 
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They are people with kids, and who love their kids and families just as much as your parents loved you and you love your own kids, you pathetic excuse for a human being. Your blatant and disgusting attempt to paint them as less than human only reflects on what you actually are: less than human
Are you saying that muslim people are no different than americans? Canadians? Japanese?


I understand that it is impossible to generalize any group of people with one particular belief / theory because in general there are always "bad seeds" in every group of people (IE: good lawyers amoungst bad, a good kid from a bad family, etc). Beyond a doubt, i know that there are good muslim people in the world but there is clearly a difference some people's perception of the value of "life". there are countless stories of beheadings within their own people from fathers beheading/stoning daughters, husbands beheading. wives, etc... Once again, not all of the muslim people, but it appears that the muslim group of people have more "life extinguishing" tendencies in within their group than others like the buddists.
 
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Its hard for people to hear of others criticizing the country they love. People criticize because they want what is best for their country, not because they like other countries more. One can have pride in their country, know it has faults, want to improve it, all the while, still believing it is a great country.
 
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...the later unconstitutional War on Drugs and every other unconstitutional regulatory federal power the government has generously given itself.

If our government is so great, why don't they follow the Constitution?
Couldn't have said it better myself. ^10th amendment.

Commenting on the thread's original topic, America's national defense strategies have been completely reactionary in light of the recent attacks on U.S. soil. You have a shoe-bomber so take off your shoes, a guy tried to bring liquid explosive so no more liquids, there's an underwear bomber so no more underwear. Yeah, that's working. The thing is that terrorists don't even need to board a plane to kill hundreds of people, they just have to get into the terminal.

I too believe that we should take a more PROACTIVE posture in our defense, much like Israel. They don't play. I've been to Haifa, Tel Aviv and especially in Jerusalem they have M-4 toting military posted and patrolling all over the place. Their airports are far more secure than our military bases. For example, if there's an unattended package left in a market, someone sounds an alarm and everyone vacates the area in seconds. They realized that their very existence depends on strong national defense. Great people, tough and competitive, I met many kindred spirits there. Just my .02.
 
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Ask any soldier how well and easily the GI Bill works out nowadays, and then look at how much it cost in taxes to fund it.
Actually, the G.I. Bill's working out pretty well. $1,600/mo. tax free. Not sure how it's funded, but I bought into it for $1,200. Not a bad ROI if you ask me. :439:

I agree with everything else you said.
 
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I too believe that we should take a more PROACTIVE posture in our defense, much like Israel. They don't play.
The difference between us and the Israelis is they understand that war is a survival issue, not a political issue. Sun Tsu the art of war says that ever battle is won or lost before it is ever waged. Rule #1 know yourself, #2 know your enemy.

Israel knows where they are susceptible to attack, and they know who's going to try to attack them... Politicians find wealth and power in telling half truths and out right lies while Americans are far to content believing fairytales.


btw Kimbo gets it LOL
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