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NTNM - Diet , my un-scientific approach to leanness

Okay, I got my lab test...

I'm using UGL 220mg test/u x week for the last 8 month. Also 2x 0.5mg adex/w. THIS is the result:

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WTF???

Underdosed gear, well, that is why you have to do lab tests.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Okay, I got my lab test...

I'm using UGL 220mg test/u x week for the last 8 month. Also 2x 0.5mg adex/w. THIS is the result:

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WTF???

Underdosed gear, well, that is why you have to do lab tests.
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I asked about the low estro in the other thread. Did you know when your estrogen is low that it actually hampers fat loss. Lowering it if high helps with fat loss but if it is lower than optimal it slows it too. Kind of crazy...
 
MrKleen73 said:
I asked about the low estro in the other thread. Did you know when your estrogen is low that it actually hampers fat loss. Lowering it if high helps with fat loss but if it is lower than optimal it slows it too. Kind of crazy...
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Not only fat loss was stalled, couldn't get it up for weeks and was wondering why.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Not only fat loss was stalled, couldn't get it up for weeks and was wondering why.
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Now that is a justifiable reason to hunt said UGL owner down and tack his penis to the locker room bench with a gutter nail!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Now that is a justifiable reason to hunt said UGL owner down and tack his penis to the locker room bench with a gutter nail!
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Already notifying my friends who are also customers of the same guy. The current gear was from Mexico, here a pic:

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Don't buy this brand -or buy twice as planned, because its underdosed.
 
Gear from Mexico under dosed that could never happen, I quess you are just lucky it contains gear at all !!
 
rtmilburn said:
Can't you just go to a pharmacy there and get legit gear, even if you don't have a script? I heard the price is way EXPENSIVE though.
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Nah, not here. At least no test. Anavar, Proviron, Adex, Clomid and Cabergoline you get.
 
Here what I did now:

To get a decent cruise going, I mixed two esters in one ampule 50/50 (5ml test/u + 5ml test/e at supposed 250mg test/ml each). Now injecting twice a week 1ml of the the mixture.
If my calculations are right, that should be roughly 300mg-350mg ( a bit higher if the test/e is legit) of real test (instead of claimed 500mg).
No AI will be used for at least a week to get E2 up again. After two weeks I may use Proviron to control E2 and get free test up.

The upside to that underdosed gear is, I do now know, that 220mg Mexican test/u is my ideal TRT dosage, looking at labs.
 
Gym

*rp = rest pause 10 sec.
Seated row reverse grip
235lbs x13/10/8 rp 2/ 6 rp 3

cable lat press down bar
65lbs x14
85lbs x10 rp 4/8 rp 4/ 7 rp 3

smith squats
220lbs x10
double dipping x6
220lbs x8

leg extensions
155lbs x25
holding 3 sec x9/8/6
quick x10/8

DB one armed flat bench tut 3.1.1.
55lbs 12/10/9

Sparring with Alvaro "Hulk" Correa, no gloves, open fists, fists only, full body contact, semi/no head contact:
4 x 1 minutes (believe me, it feels like an hour)

-toast-
 
Squats look strong !!
 
hairygrandpa said:
The upside to that underdosed gear is, I do now know, that 220mg Mexican test/u is my ideal TRT dosage, looking at labs.
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I was thinking the same thing when you first posted the bloods. Then I realized what you goal was and that it missed the mark :).
 
Arms day:

close grip BB bench press
225lbs x12/10/8

chin ups
12/10/10

Lat pull down 200lbs
10/10/10

spider curls ez-bar 35lbs
24/18/20

smith drag curls 85lbs
13/14

triceps push down v-handle, different angles, different weights
8 sets

one armed cable triceps, overhead and others
8 sets

DB seated incline curls, slow-mo 2x35lbs
8/7/8

straight bar standing curls 21's
45lbs x1/1
 
hairygrandpa said:
Arms day:

close grip BB bench press
225lbs x12/10/8

chin ups
12/10/10

Lat pull down 200lbs
10/10/10

spider curls ez-bar 35lbs
24/18/20

smith drag curls 85lbs
13/14

triceps push down v-handle, different angles, different weights
8 sets

one armed cable triceps, overhead and others
8 sets

DB seated incline curls, slow-mo 2x35lbs
8/7/8

straight bar standing curls 21's
45lbs x1/1
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Dude you're a beast
 
hairygrandpa said:
Arms day:

close grip BB bench press
225lbs x12/10/8

chin ups
12/10/10

Lat pull down 200lbs
10/10/10

spider curls ez-bar 35lbs
24/18/20

smith drag curls 85lbs
13/14

triceps push down v-handle, different angles, different weights
8 sets

one armed cable triceps, overhead and others
8 sets

DB seated incline curls, slow-mo 2x35lbs
8/7/8

straight bar standing curls 21's
45lbs x1/1
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Killer close-grip bench press!
 
Jealous of those Close Grips !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
Jealous of those Close Grips !!
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Did them at the beginning of the workout, with "fresh arms". I'm not sure if its a good idea to go heavier, I'm a bit worried about my wrists.
We older guys have to be worried about everything, LOL.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Did them at the beginning of the workout, with "fresh arms". I'm not sure if its a good idea to go heavier, I'm a bit worried about my wrists.
We older guys have to be worried about everything, LOL.
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My wrist are fine, they hurt my shoulders when I get heavy !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
My wrist are fine, they hurt my shoulders when I get heavy !!
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Cant do regular BB bench press, due to shoulder trouble. As long as I keep elbows tugged in, it works.
Give it a try. Bar touches under nipples -and elbows not flared out, keep them in. Works for me.
 
Nice lifts!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Cant do regular BB bench press, due to shoulder trouble. As long as I keep elbows tugged in, it works.
Give it a try. Bar touches under nipples -and elbows not flared out, keep them in. Works for me.
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When I first started lifting I had a cranky right shoulder so was drilled to keep elbows tucked, ever since I’ve religiously done that and my shoulders been sound, does limit weight slightly at first but ultimately I think makes you stronger. Sling shots are a great tool for drilling it in.....
 
I opened up my mind about my next cycle and decided to postpone it for one more week.
Even though my LDL is in range, HDL is too low to start orals. Gonna wait a bit, taking cardarine daily to bring HDL up.

The upcoming blast will be:

-Test: 300-350mg/w (500mg of underdosed test :) )
-LGD 5/5/10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10
-T-bol: 0/0/0/0/80/80/80/80/80/80
-maybe Proviron at 50mg/d -but I doubt its necessary for libido. Last t-bol cycle gave me perma-boner.

Ancillaries:
-adex
-telmisartan
-beta sistosterol + saw palmetto
-b-vitamins
-EFA
-tudca (starting week 5, more expensive than roids)

First 5 weeks cutting, then lean bulk attempt.

Last time at TRT + LGD I got lethargic and cut LGD after week 2, lets see how it goes with a bit more test.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I opened up my mind about my next cycle and decided to postpone it for one more week.
Even though my LDL is in range, HDL is too low to start orals. Gonna wait a bit, taking cardarine daily to bring HDL up.

The upcoming blast will be:

-Test: 300-350mg/w (500mg of underdosed test :) )
-LGD 5/5/10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10
-T-bol: 0/0/0/0/80/80/80/80/80/80
-maybe Proviron at 50mg/d -but I doubt its necessary for libido. Last t-bol cycle gave me perma-boner.

Ancillaries:
-adex
-telmisartan
-beta sistosterol + saw palmetto
-b-vitamins
-EFA
-tudca (starting week 5, more expensive than roids)

First 5 weeks cutting, then lean bulk attempt.

Last time at TRT + LGD I got lethargic and cut LGD after week 2, lets see how it goes with a bit more test.
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Might want to try some DHEA in the mix too just to help with the hormone balance, that and some pregnenolone.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Might want to try some DHEA in the mix too just to help with the hormone balance, that and some pregnenolone.
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Ummm....have you read the first 70 pages of this thread??? And now you're introducing the word, "balance"???

Where the h3ll did you get the thought in your head that it would be a good idea to bring up that word on page 72?

:)
 
HIT4ME said:
Ummm....have you read the first 70 pages of this thread??? And now you're introducing the word, "balance"???

Where the h3ll did you get the thought in your head that it would be a good idea to bring up that word on page 72?

:)
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Ha! I know right!
 
hairygrandpa said:
Taking DHEA + Preg. already, but good pointing it out.
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We should take the shorter route - can you create a list of things you are NOT taking?
 
Gym

Injury prevention day

21 sets / 7 exercises for rotator cuff, cables
4 sets cables for lower traps (posture correction, rehab)

DB declined front rises
2x25lbs x 10/10/7

Cable "lean away" lateral raises
4 sets

Cable bent over low pulley
3 sets

Smith squat
165lbs double dipping x11/8
220lbs x7

reverse pec dec
170lbs x15
190lbs x10/9

shoulder press machine
90lbs x10/10
110lbs x8/6

seated abs crunch machine
3 sets

10 min heavy bag
 
hairygrandpa said:
Gym

Injury prevention day

21 sets / 7 exercises for rotator cuff, cables
4 sets cables for lower traps (posture correction, rehab)

DB declined front rises
2x25lbs x 10/10/7

Cable "lean away" lateral raises
4 sets

Cable bent over low pulley
3 sets

Smith squat
165lbs double dipping x11/8
220lbs x7

reverse pec dec
170lbs x15
190lbs x10/9

shoulder press machine
90lbs x10/10
110lbs x8/6

seated abs crunch machine
3 sets

10 min heavy bag
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Looks like another good day HGP
 
I was always taught Double Dipping was bad !!
 
Be careful on pushing the weights up HGP, bump those reps up a bit higher with that weight before going up to give the cartilage in the knees time to adjust.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Be careful on pushing the weights up HGP, bump those reps up a bit higher with that weight before going up to give the cartilage in the knees time to adjust.
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Good advise, will do. Canceling out the ego-lifting-mentality isn't always easy, LOL.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Good advise, will do. Canceling out the ego-lifting-mentality isn't always easy, LOL.
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Not at all. My knew training is mostly body weight stuff but doing them they way they are described humbled me quite a bit and that is always a good thing!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Not at all. My knew training is mostly body weight stuff but doing them they way they are described humbled me quite a bit and that is always a good thing!
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Bulgarian split squats are my humbling exercise. Even bw I find challenging for sets of 10. Great exercise though
 
Whisky said:
Bulgarian split squats are my humbling exercise. Even bw I find challenging for sets of 10. Great exercise though
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Had to look it up.
[video=youtube;2C-uNgKwPLE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-uNgKwPLE[/video]

Ah! Bulgarian splits are THOSE suckers! LOL. Will try next time.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Had to look it up.
[video=youtube;2C-uNgKwPLE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-uNgKwPLE[/video]

Ah! Bulgarian splits are THOSE suckers! LOL. Will try next time.
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Suggest doing them with no weight to get your balance and rhythm down. don't worry about people laughing at you when you first try them. I weeble and wobbled a few times. (But I didn't fall down) these is one of the best leg exercises for me. I never mention them because I thought they were my secret. Never see anyone do them any longer at my gym.
 
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