NTNM - Diet , my un-scientific approach to leanness

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I gained a few pounds on vacation. With renewed energy and dedication, I will this time stick to my diet.

Its a combination of intermittent fasting and complete fasting.
I call it:

NTNM - "No train-no meal."TM

-One meal on training days, no meal on off days.
-Only time a meal is allowed is after training.
-Meal has to stay under 2000 kcal.
-Meal has to be consumed in a 2 hour window after training.
-Macross: 65%Prot/20%Fat/15%Carbs
-Off days = water/ black coffee only.

Stay tuned for before/after pics!

Derailing this thread is encouraged!

Edit:
Diet switched to: 1 meal a day, ALSO on off days. No carbs on off days.
Calories on on days 2000-2800kcal, depending on perceived workout quality.
Calories on off days: 2000kcal max, mainly meat and veggies
 
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In to see you suffer!
 
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And if memory serves me, the last time you failed we were rewarded with tub pics. Any chance of a repeat?
 
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I'm definetly in
 
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This is like driving by a really bad accident on the highway. You try to keep driving.. but you just. Gotta. Watch.

At first I thought this was a bad idea. By the end, I realized it is an, um, interesting idea. Now go prove it is a good idea!
 
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Definitely looks interesting..I am in.

What time of the day do you train and what would be the split?
 
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In..
miss you fckers

Thanks for the tag SFreed
 
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NTNM seems like a torture protocol from a Serbian prison.
 
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Woo! In!
 
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Good to see you back. How's things been going?
Good man. Busy AF with the kiddos... baby is crawling and getting into everything.

I'm also looking at starting my own youth program in Montana... got some sh1t in the works
 
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Ohhh heyyyyyy!

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In for shower caps; thick women; derailing begins in T - minus - now.
 
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Cool. I can finally say I made the list. Thanks sfreed
 
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This looks very interesting to say the least. I'm in.
 
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I'm always in for anything by HairyGrandpa, I mean who doesn't want to follow posts by someone with an erotic name like that?????
 
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Day 2 of my diet:
-I started my diet yesterday, worked out but decided to fast.

Before pics:

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All I ate yesterday:

day1.jpg


All I ate today:

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My cycle:
-250mg test-e/w
-20mg Ostarine/day
That's it.

Today's workout:

60-70 sets, mostly machines, a bit of everything.
 
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Definitely looks interesting..I am in.

What time of the day do you train and what would be the split?
I train at night from 8.45pm to 10.00pm.
Full body workouts, high volume, moderate weights, 3-5 times a week.
Will post some workouts later on.
 
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I would HIGHLY recommend you add Iron Legion Invictus to this protocol. Cortisol is bound to sky rocket in no time!
 
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Thank you all for subscribing, now I have no choice but to deliver results.

I'm sitting at 230lbs. My goal is 200lbs.
 
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I would HIGHLY recommend you add Iron Legion Invictus to this protocol. Cortisol is bound to sky rocket in no time!
Good idea -but this time I'll go with as less as possible supplements.
Cruise dose of Test and some Ostarine has to do the trick. No Creatine, Whey -or BCAA's. Diet and training is key, lets focus on that and save money! :)
 

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60-70 sets?! How do you recover from this much volume
 
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Ate my fist full of food after 2 days of fasting, now questioning what I'm doing.
 
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60-70 sets?! How do you recover from this much volume

Yep, I'm wondering too. This is my "normal" pace, it will slow down in a few days. By the way, I count rest pause sets too.
 
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Today's workout :

Chest press machine TUT 3.1.1
220lbs x15/15 RP 8 RP 6 RP 5

Inclined Press machine TUT 3.1.1.
200lbs x 10/8 RP 5 RP 6 RP 4

Seated row reverse grip:
170lbs x16
200lbs x12/12 RP 8 RP 8 RP 8

Lat pull down:
190lbs x14/11 RP 8 RP 8 RP 6

Linear Leg press/ partials 21's:
350lbs x 3 sets of 21's

Leg extensions:
4 sets moderate weights (did not write it down)

Cable flies :
upper: 2x 40lbs x15/12/12/10
bent over middle: 2x45lbs x13/11/11/9
under: 2x45 x10/10/10/10

Pendley rows, singles (no AMRAP):
220lbs x10/10

Rear delt bent over DB rises:
2x40lbs x 12/10 RP 8 RP 6

Cable bent over low pulley:
25lbs x11/9/8 RP 5

DB one armed Arnold press
45lbs x10/8 RP 5

8 min bicycle at 145 HR

DB triceps floor extensions:
2x25lbs x 16/10 RP 7 RP 7 RP 7

58 sets... not 60-70 as I claimed before... well...I lied.
 
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I train at night from 8.45pm to 10.00pm.
Full body workouts, high volume, moderate weights, 3-5 times a week.
Will post some workouts later on.
ooooh.. One meal 2000cal and that too late in the night. Should do animal test on this experiment first

Disclaimer: No animals were hurt during this process.
 
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ooooh.. One meal 2000cal and that too late in the night. Should do animal test on this experiment first

Disclaimer: No animals were hurt during this process.
I'm pretty confident this hairy ape will survive, LOL! My guess is, workout intensity and volume will suffer -and the toilet will get clogged due to fire- extinguisher-sized dumps, caused by constipation.
 
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I'm pretty confident this hairy ape will survive, LOL! My guess is, workout intensity and volume will suffer -and the toilet will get clogged due to fire- extinguisher-sized dumps, caused by constipation.
ROFL...
 
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I gained a few pounds on vacation. With renewed energy and dedication, I will this time stick to my diet.

Its a combination of intermittent fasting and complete fasting.
I call it:

NTNM - "No train-no meal."TM

-One meal on training days, no meal on off days.
-Only time a meal is allowed is after training.
-Meal has to stay under 2000 kcal.
-Meal has to be consumed in a 2 hour window after training.
-Macross: 65%Prot/20%Fat/15%Carbs
-Off days = water/ black coffee only.

Stay tuned for before/after pics!

Derailing this thread is encouraged!
Sounds interesting but not going to work for me, train 6/7 days a week

Good Luck
 
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I gained a few pounds on vacation. With renewed energy and dedication, I will this time stick to my diet.

Its a combination of intermittent fasting and complete fasting.
I call it:

NTNM - "No train-no meal."TM

-One meal on training days, no meal on off days.
-Only time a meal is allowed is after training.
-Meal has to stay under 2000 kcal.
-Meal has to be consumed in a 2 hour window after training.
-Macross: 65%Prot/20%Fat/15%Carbs
-Off days = water/ black coffee only.

Stay tuned for before/after pics!

Derailing this thread is encouraged!
Sounds interesting but not going to work for me, train 6/7 days a week

Good Luck
 
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Sounds interesting but not going to work for me, train 6/7 days a week

Good Luck
Just reverse it. Now you are only allowed to eat on off days.

 
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I'm in for this ride !!
 
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100% in. Been doing similar but going to follow thus protocol from here on out. Thx hgp, always bringing something awesome.
 
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Day 2 of my diet:
-I started my diet yesterday, worked out but decided to fast.

Before pics:

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All I ate yesterday:

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All I ate today:

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My cycle:
-250mg test-e/w
-20mg Ostarine/day
That's it.

Today's workout:

60-70 sets, mostly machines, a bit of everything.
Add in some topical Formestane and you're set! Help with estro from test and can be used for a sort of spot reduction sort of. I love it for lower abdominal fat myself.
 
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Good idea -but this time I'll go with as less as possible supplements.
Cruise dose of Test and some Ostarine has to do the trick. No Creatine, Whey -or BCAA's. Diet and training is key, lets focus on that and save money! :)
Apparently BCAAs are not good for dieting from my recent research. So are you saving money but possibly saving yourself from undesirable results.
 
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I don't know how everyone on this forum fasts or intermittent fasts without being in ketosis! I messed up ketosis this past week by overeating protein and peanut butter, and trying to fast just for my normal 18 hours was horrible. I was miserable. But if you can do it, more power to you!
After vacation to Florida starting tomorrow, I'll be implementing keto with extended fasts similar to what your doing, but just a little different.
 
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In - even though I'm not on the HG Fan Club list!
 
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Sweet. I'm in on this!
 
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I'm moving up on the list lol

In on this and you have some awesome mass - can't wait to see the end
 
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In for the torture :)
 
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In - even though I'm not on the HG Fan Club list!
Don't feel too bad; I wasn't invited either. But I'm crashing this party anyway!
Sometimes I hesitate to add people, due to the rambling, off subject nature of some of our threads. I will add you both in the next time "The List" gets used.
 
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100% in. Been doing similar but going to follow thus protocol from here on out. Thx hgp, always bringing something awesome.
I figured if I impose a fixed rule to the diet, its easier to follow it -and if I am REALLY hungry, I have to go to the gym first, no matter what. :)
Reminds me of a stone age hunter. You hunt - you eat, you rest - you fast.
Also, you don't need to weight your food -or count every atom in it. Even if the meal is huge, you should lose weight anyway.

Add in some topical Formestane and you're set! Help with estro from test and can be used for a sort of spot reduction sort of. I love it for lower abdominal fat myself.
Nope. This time I keep it simple. I always took too much crap -and when I finally felt ill, I didn't know what caused it. By the way, until Formestane arrives at my home in bananaland, the diet is over. :) At 250mg test/w I don't expect much estro sides, have adex and exem on hand, one never knows.

Apparently BCAAs are not good for dieting from my recent research. So are you saving money but possibly saving yourself from undesirable results.
Oh, did not know that. I cut BCAA's and Whey out, because they have flavors -or if they don't (Bulk bags) I mixed them with some fruit juice, this stimulates my appetite.

You at 6'0"/175lbs have nothing to worry anyway :) With 5'8"/230lbs I'm too short for my weight, LOL
 
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Uhm we are going to need some more derailing here. Slackers.
 

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