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Non stim fat burners

georgetown

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Assuming diet is on point, are there any effective ones that are worth it? What ones do people notice effects with? Was thinking of PES Shift.
 
Rhadam said:
alpha-y
Evomuse (anything)
sns lean edge
sns reduce xt
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I'd agree with this. Sns reduce xt would be my go to if i'm looking for something non stim to help me cut down and get shredded.
 
Thanks good suggestions in here im just thinking about using some evomuse stuff at a later point because I want to use forskolin and many evomuse products elevate ampK levels and dont want to much interference
 
Synapsin said:
To be fair, super 7 is a high dosed 7 keto product so it wouldn't be hard to figure out what sort of results are likely
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I mostly meant that for Supershred. I've tried transdermal 7-keto with success, and assuming SEDDS does anything, I am sure your 7 keto will be fine.
 
ma70 said:
I mostly meant that for Supershred. I've tried transdermal 7-keto with success, and assuming SEDDS does anything, I am sure your 7 keto will be fine.
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Fair, nobody will have any experience with that solo yet.
 
sns has good products at a good price which = great, imo!!!

also arimistane can be had very cheap-under $20 for 90 count bottle, and is very good at leaning out, but beware it has been reported to drop libido and cause achy joints in some!!!
 
thebigt said:
sns has good products at a good price which = great, imo!!!

also arimistane can be had very cheap-under $20 for 90 count bottle, and is very good at leaning out, but beware it has been reported to drop libido and cause achy joints in some!!!
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thebigt knows what he's talking about! A very experienced and respected veteran member here on AM. Thanks for the support!
 
I have used about 9 bottles of Super-11. Great stuff.

I would also HIGHLY recommend Evomuse Brite, Supernova and DCP.
 
HIT4ME said:
I have used about 9 bottles of Super-11. Great stuff.

I would also HIGHLY recommend Evomuse Brite, Supernova and DCP.
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Good suggestions but all that evomuse stuff are ampk activators and will conflict with forskolin that i will most likely use, in the future i plan on probabaly giving either brite or supernova a try solo use....or dcp too haha
 
georgetown said:
Good suggestions but all that evomuse stuff are ampk activators and will conflict with forskolin that i will most likely use, in the future i plan on probabaly giving either brite or supernova a try solo use....or dcp too haha
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Epitome and cardiotryx activate AMPK. DCP, Brite, Supernova do not.
 
georgetown said:
Oh i must have missed that, thanks for pointing that out
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No problem at all. Not many people know enough about AMPK to even worry about it, and I don't claim to have AMPK knowledge on lockdown beyond being aware and minor details. DCP, as I've said time and again, is the most effective fat burner I have used in over 15 years for accute effects. Matt may disagree...He will say Brite is his best formula I bet - and I like Brite a lot but it seems more long term to me.
 
HIT4ME said:
Epitome and cardiotryx activate AMPK. DCP, Brite, Supernova do not.
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DCP has multiple ingredients which either directly activate or with others, indirectly influence AMPK. Quercetin being a particularly powerful AMPK activator. In saying this, it is not a simple activate AMPK, eliminates the effect of another compound such as Forskolin. cAMP and AMPK are completely different signalling molecules.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
DCP has multiple ingredients which either directly activate or with others, indirectly influence AMPK. Quercetin being a particularly powerful AMPK activator. In saying this, it is not a simple activate AMPK, eliminates the effect of another compound such as Forskolin. cAMP and AMPK are completely different signalling molecules.
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Ok, so how would you play it? Would you try DCP and Forskolin? Maybe that is why DSade didn't put Forskolin in the product? I honestly don't know.

I do know the effects of DCP are strong enough to get me to drop Forskolin instead.
 
HIT4ME said:
Ok, so how would you play it? Would you try DCP and Forskolin? Maybe that is why DSade didn't put Forskolin in the product? I honestly don't know.

I do know the effects of DCP are strong enough to get me to drop Forskolin instead.
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If the goal is fat loss, then increasing cAMP through Forskolin supplementation will be of benefit. Why he didn't include it in the product? you will need to ask him, but my bet is that its not included because its not directly relevant to the pathways which he formulated this product to target.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
If the goal is fat loss, then increasing cAMP through Forskolin supplementation will be of benefit. Why he didn't include it in the product? you will need to ask him, but my bet is that its not included because its not directly relevant to the pathways which he formulated this product to target.
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Yeah, I try to keep products designed with certain common and complementary pathways together. Just tossing in forskolin for no reason (even though it works fine) would increase cost past the point of being affordable to a lot of people and my goal is to make everything affordable.

It's in the Eviscerate series because the effects locally in fat cells is pronounced but doesn't really fit with the DCP design.
 
criticalbench said:
Evomuse is the king of this.. Evomuse Super Nova is the king of this, hands freakin down.
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Just looked this product up. Holy ****, it looks good. Thanks for awaring me.
 
tt-33 is probably the one I saw the best results with, currently using formutech natural efx stim free, didn't know what to think about it going in but I'm enjoying it so far, pretty good thermo effect
 
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