no methyl, no tren

wastchak

wastchak

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Looking for a good PH that isnt methyl and isnt a tren product. Dont want to run a methyl product for obvious reasons and tren just aint my thing. Anyway anyone got any good suggestions. Are these andro 1 n 4 products anygood nowadays? I took the oldschool andro and was great.
 
Check out 1-ANDRO Rx by Iron Mag Labs. I was following a good log that you can search for where there were great gains and low sides.
 
PP has 1-T, and 1-T Tren. The first is an andro.

1-T would work, i think it is costly for the results though.

Your other options include Furazadrol, Winztrol, 1,4ad, propadrol... Revolt but that's a progestin like tren.
 
UnrealMachine said:
PP has 1-T, and 1-T Tren. The first is an andro.

1-T would work, i think it is costly for the results though.

Your other options include Furazadrol, Winztrol, 1,4ad, propadrol... Revolt but that's a progestin like tren.
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thanks i think im gonna try the winztrol or the 1,4 bold.
 
seriously you might want to stack them

like this:
bold 800mg for weeks 1-8
winztrol 250mg for weeks 4-8

As you can see... the problem with nonmethyls is you need a lot of bottles. This stack is like what... 4 bold bottles, 2 winztrol/clone bottles (assuming its 50mg per pill otherwise its 4 bottles)

I used a bottle of Zol in my first cycle and i didn't even notice it until I hit 250-300mg and all i got was a kind of tightening in my muscles. My weight didn't budge and neither did my strength. Realized I would need so many bottles and a lot of time to make the compound effective. Decided it wasn't worth it.
 
UnrealMachine said:
seriously you might want to stack them

like this:
bold 800mg for weeks 1-8
winztrol 250mg for weeks 4-8

As you can see... the problem with nonmethyls is you need a lot of bottles. This stack is like what... 4 bold bottles, 2 winztrol/clone bottles (assuming its 50mg per pill otherwise its 4 bottles)

I used a bottle of Zol in my first cycle and i didn't even notice it until I hit 250-300mg and all i got was a kind of tightening in my muscles. My weight didn't budge and neither did my strength. Realized I would need so many bottles and a lot of time to make the compound effective. Decided it wasn't worth it.
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yeah I noticed the more bottle thing. Thanks for the advice on the stacking though. One more question for you, do you know the typical sides from the bold and winztrol?
 
I can personally attest for the 1-Andro rx. Even @ 600mg / day it gave me awesome strength and endurance. Run it @ 800mgs or higher and you'll gain a lot of lean mass and strength with NO sides. Check out the log in my sig if your interested.
 
wastchak said:
yeah I noticed the more bottle thing. Thanks for the advice on the stacking though. One more question for you, do you know the typical sides from the bold and winztrol?
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I know that personally the sides from Winstrol was dry joints with elbow pain. I liked furaz much much better.
 
kjkriston said:
I know that personally the sides from Winstrol was dry joints with elbow pain. I liked furaz much much better.
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yeah alright sounds good, maybe ill check out the 1 andro rx instead. The job i have i cant have dry joints as i lift **** all day long and do alot of walking. So the extra strenght and endurance from the 1 andro would be awesome!!!
 
wastchak said:
yeah alright sounds good, maybe ill check out the 1 andro rx instead. The job i have i cant have dry joints as i lift **** all day long and do alot of walking. So the extra strenght and endurance from the 1 andro would be awesome!!!
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If your worried about joints I find cissus/fish oil work like magic.
 
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