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NMDA or Daa?

bb333 said:
which do you prefer?
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daa. Not sure about safety of nmda. I Like testfoce 2 and pure test for just some daa capsules.

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DAA .... but i prefer to use Prolensis Bulbine ... we use it in our Noxitest formula.
 
Personally, I prefer regular DAA. FINAFLEX Pure Test is 100% HPLC Verified D-Aspartic Acid and at a very reasonable price:

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NA-DAA. SNS makes the best shtuff :P

Btw, screw the 3g a day dosage. I've found 6 (split 3g morning and evening to be optimal). Dose it with l-dopa and maybe some divanil if you're feeling lucky.
 
DAA as well for me. With P5P/L-Dopa + some form of estrogen control if running for a decent amount of time.
 
Holy linked thread hahaha!

I would agree with the others in here. Sodium D Aspartate (SNS DAA) has studies showing it's efficacy and safety whereas NMDA doesn't. That doesn't mean it doesn't work as anecdotally a lot of people like it.
 
NDMA for me. Tried daa to many times and got nothing.

Very underrated and works very good. It's been a while. Might have to grab me a bottle soon lol

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haiz69 said:
DAA as well for me. With P5P/L-Dopa + some form of estrogen control if running for a decent amount of time.
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No tired or drowsy feeling from the l-dopa?

Spaniard said:
Holy linked thread hahaha! I would agree with the others in here. Sodium D Aspartate (SNS DAA) has studies showing it's efficacy and safety whereas NMDA doesn't. That doesn't mean it doesn't work as anecdotally a lot of people like it.
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halfhuman said:
NDMA for me. Tried daa to many times and got nothing. Very underrated and works very good. It's been a while. Might have to grab me a bottle soon lol Invalid Link Removed
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What's supposed to be the biggest benefit of the N Methyl attachment? More potent?
I've seen complaints on DAA in regards to GI distress & heighten anxiety.
 
NMDA....the sleep benefits alone do more for me than DAA does, I pretty much only recommend DAA for pct but it's not effective enough to notice any gym results
 
NMDA I thought was debunked as useless in another thread on here. I used it and got nothing from it. Well not nothing, my libido dropped to almost non existent.
 
Young Gotti said:
NMDA....the sleep benefits alone do more for me than DAA does, I pretty much only recommend DAA for pct but it's not effective enough to notice any gym results
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I beg the differ there, NMDA gave me the opposite. Couldn't sleep no matter what time I took it ..Maybe I'm just a rare breed.
 
I wouldn't go more than 3g of DAA a day. Anymore is overkill
 
I've been seeing people post how they have been taking enormous amounts of DAA. One guy I think said he takes 15 grams per day. I couldn't imagine the pooping.....Seriously I would have to wear a diaper.
 
T-Bone said:
I've been seeing people post how they have been taking enormous amounts of DAA. One guy I think said he takes 15 grams per day. I couldn't imagine the pooping.....Seriously I would have to wear a diaper.
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:lol:
 
T-Bone said:
I've been seeing people post how they have been taking enormous amounts of DAA. One guy I think said he takes 15 grams per day. I couldn't imagine the pooping.....Seriously I would have to wear a diaper.
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Even na-daa tears you up?
 
xhrr said:
6 was noticeably better than 3 for me
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Agreed. I like 6 split and pm with 500mg l-dopa and 2 gram agmatine.

No noticeable body comp changes, but overall mood is greatly enhanced and agmatine is awesome for blood sugar/insulin.
 
jaces said:
I weigh around 280 pounds so ,,,,
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With the majority of supplements dosages aren't based on body weight. The only supplement company that has a select few products where dosages are based on body weight is Applied Nutriceuticals. Even with that company it is only a few select supplements that were designed/formulated to be dosed dependent on body weight of the user.
 
The Engineer said:
Agreed. I like 6 split and pm with 500mg l-dopa and 2 gram agmatine. No noticeable body comp changes, but overall mood is greatly enhanced and agmatine is awesome for blood sugar/insulin.
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I'll have to try it with l dopa and agmatine. Never got much in terms of body comp either but 6 made me feel pretty damn good and my gf sore. 3 was hardly noticeable.

I really only see it as much use during pct or if you want to bang everything that walks. Seems to have the most use in a hypogonadal state aka after the cessation of androgens.
 
T-Bone said:
With the majority of supplements dosages aren't based on body weight. The only supplement company that has a select few products where dosages are based on body weight is Applied Nutriceuticals. Even with that company it is only a few select supplements that were designed/formulated to be dosed dependent on body weight of the user.
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Yeah most products , but at the university we use bodyweight dependent studies so I rather use bodyweight ,,, :)
 
didn't someone post or talk about it on a podcast, maybe layne norton...that over 3g's is good for nootropic purposes but also toxic...i don't remember where i heard it, also never looked into it any further since i rarly use daa myself
 
Young Gotti said:
didn't someone post or talk about it on a podcast, maybe layne norton...that over 3g's is good for nootropic purposes but also toxic...i don't remember where i heard it, also never looked into it any further since i rarly use daa myself
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You're talking about excitoxicity, which was a concern with DAA in general initially and this was at any dose. From all the discussion and preliminary data on it, DAA has a safe a relatively safe profile. However, IIRC DAA did have a study showing dose dependent excitoxicity, which is probably what you're thinking of. The study was done in rats from what I can recall

Here's the thing, both DAA and NMDA have activity at the NMDA receptor where the excitoxicity was of initial concern. I personally generally recommend DAA over NMDA because it has data showing efficacy and safety, whereas with NMDA I have yet to see the same.
 
Spaniard said:
You're talking about excitoxicity, which was a concern with DAA in general initially and this was at any dose. From all the discussion and preliminary data on it, DAA has a safe a relatively safe profile. However, IIRC DAA did have a study showing dose dependent excitoxicity, which is probably what you're thinking of. The study was done in rats from what I can recall

Here's the thing, both DAA and NMDA have activity at the NMDA receptor where the excitoxicity was of initial concern. I personally generally recommend DAA over NMDA because it has data showing efficacy and safety, whereas with NMDA I have yet to see the same.
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NMDA has been proven to not work.
 
DAA and Sarcosine over NMDA
 
mr.cooper69 said:
This. And did you see the dose that didn't work? 100x higher than the 30mg that most supplements use
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I'll have to look for the study, but I remember they used NMDA by muscle warfare or some bs company like that.

It could very well have been that the actual product was bunk and therefore we should give NMDA another chance.

Anecdotally, ill say that I've tried both intimidate srt and mass fx black and none of them have come close to na-daa.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
This. And did you see the dose that didn't work? 100x higher than the 30mg that most supplements use
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I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,
 
jaces said:
I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,
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I, for example,
that I don't drink coffee, never
Caffeine anhydrous 200 mg, I feel very well ;)
The strength and concentration increases a lot.
To 600 mg, maybe, I would have an attack of tachycardia!
So, everything is subjective, especially with those compounds that should affect the nervous system.
 
bb333 said:
I, for example,
that I don't drink coffee, never
Caffeine anhydrous 200 mg, I feel very well ;)
The strength and concentration increases a lot.
To 600 mg, maybe, I would have an attack of tachycardia!
So, everything is subjective, especially with those compounds that should affect the nervous system.
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I agree , I thnk it varies frm person to person
 
jaces said:
I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,
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600 mg caffeine is absurd. I'm sure some folks can go that high, but they're stimmed out and ultra tolerant. 100-150 mg is all I need to get my system engaged. I can tolerate 200, but anything over that makes me feel horrible.
 
jaces said:
I think most suplements dont work in the dosages they put in a ''blend'',,, like my preworkout has 200mg of cafein and most studys I have read show a dose of 600mg is neded for a boost in the gym,,
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I think the study showed that 600 was the max effective dose, not that less wouldn't work but that 600 was better
 
I accidentally put 400mg in my afternoon shake yesterday instead of 200. Felt like I was on straight up methamphetamines.
 
Yes, if I remember correctly it was based on mg per lb, I do not remember the ratio though
 
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