Night time fat burner? Reduction or Lipotrophin PM

FlawedGrunt

FlawedGrunt

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Any input on which one you like better? I want to add something to the LEV/DCP stack for night time. Was thinking either Lipotrophin PM or the black tabs from REDuction.
 
Reduction has been great for me. I had a horrible (bathroom related)incident with Lipotrophin PM, and only used it I believe 1-2 days.
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Any input on which one you like better? I want to add something to the LEV/DCP stack for night time. Was thinking either Lipotrophin PM or the black tabs from REDuction.
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Lipo PM, but I am kind of biased :) Deep restful sleep and significant blood sugar reduction/control- it is a very solid product with which many individuals have gotten great results from over time.....

Reaper- what kind of incident did you have? Just curious- knowing about any type of potential issues can help me to make a better product- pm me if you want instead..
 
i too am curious of the potty issue

ive yet to try REDuction but i do have a sample coming

lipo pm is not only afat burner but does assist in getting deeper sleep

plus i saw about 25,000 pills being stuff today of it :D b
 
Outside Backer said:
i too am curious of the potty issue

ive yet to try REDuction but i do have a sample coming

lipo pm is not only afat burner but does assist in getting deeper sleep

plus i saw about 25,000 pills being stuff today of it :D b
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yeah- we got a good little bit done- the capsule sorter was pissing me off pretty bad today :)
 
I use the DCP/Levi for the day and take 2 Lipo PM before bed. I am enjoying it so far with no sides at all!
 
I love the REDuction night time formula...Let me warn you though...more is NOT better...I decided to double the night time dose and I was barely able to get up in the morning.
 
crader said:
I use the DCP/Levi for the day and take 2 Lipo PM before bed. I am enjoying it so far with no sides at all!
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that is great to hear :) ps I am def. a big fan of epi- it goes real well with Drive....
 
crader said:
Hey! It has been a long time. I'm okay, gearing up to drop down to contest shape for the Olympia. Its fat burners galore for me right now.:lol:
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guess I will see you out there....are you guys having a booth?
 
Hmmmm so its really a horse a piece huh... split down the middle it seems... should have added a poll... i was reading reviews and actually saw the PM caused someone not to sleep but yet it promotes deep sleep? **** i could use that right now cant sleepf for shxt
 
RenegadeRows said:
I have only used REDuction and found the PM formula burned fat off and improved my sleep significantly.
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Whats that renegade you need someone to run a sponsored log on the sleeping effects of REDuction?! Sure ill do it! hahahaha

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I'm kind of leaning this way too... i think it could be a awesome addition to my lev/dcp stack
 
rms80 said:
Lipo PM, but I am kind of biased :) Deep restful sleep and significant blood sugar reduction/control- it is a very solid product with which many individuals have gotten great results from over time.....

Reaper- what kind of incident did you have? Just curious- knowing about any type of potential issues can help me to make a better product- pm me if you want instead..
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PM sent, thanks man
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Hmmmm so its really a horse a piece huh... split down the middle it seems... should have added a poll... i was reading reviews and actually saw the PM caused someone not to sleep but yet it promotes deep sleep? **** i could use that right now cant sleepf for shxt
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I have never used the REDuction so I can't comment on it. But I do sleep okay on the PM. My sleep patterns are way off and I'm tired all the time so i'm not the best candidate to ask. But most nights i sleep deeply with a few weird dreams on the PM. However I still have nights that I can't sleep!
 
I really like cAMPHIBOLIC as well. It has the same deep-sleep inducing proporties as lipo-pm. Ingredients are slightly diff but very similar
 
FlawedGrunt said:
Any input on which one you like better? I want to add something to the LEV/DCP stack for night time. Was thinking either Lipotrophin PM or the black tabs from REDuction.
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My girlfriend is currently running a log over Lipo-PM if you are interested in checking it out. She praises its aid to help her get a restful night sleep, so it has other reasons for use rather than just fat burning. Good Luck on your choices though.
 
Go with the Lipotrophin-PM

FlawedGrunt said:
Any input on which one you like better? I want to add something to the LEV/DCP stack for night time. Was thinking either Lipotrophin PM or the black tabs from REDuction.
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Personally, I would recommend Lipotrophin-PM. I've been using this since the start of February, and I love the effects so much that is a STAPLE in my supplement regime! And actually, to be honest, I don't even use it as a 'fatburner', but because it helps give me deeper, better quality sleep!


FlawedGrunt said:
... i was reading reviews and actually saw the PM caused someone not to sleep but yet it promotes deep sleep? ****...
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Was that me? I DID find that if I took my dose of Lipotrophin-PM 45 minutes pre-bed (like it recommends on the label), that it takes FOREVER (like a few hours) to get to sleep; but once asleep, the sleep is GREAT (and, considering that I usually only used to sleep for ~5 hours tops (a little more these days, due to stress and study, etc.), it's a GOOD thing)!
 
of the 2 i like reduction. the am formula is ok, but the pm black pills are what makes it.:thumbsup:
 
Guejsn said:
Personally, I would recommend Lipotrophin-PM. I've been using this since the start of February, and I love the effects so much that is a STAPLE in my supplement regime! And actually, to be honest, I don't even use it as a 'fatburner', but because it helps give me deeper, better quality sleep!




Was that me? I DID find that if I took my dose of Lipotrophin-PM 45 minutes pre-bed (like it recommends on the label), that it takes FOREVER (like a few hours) to get to sleep; but once asleep, the sleep is GREAT (and, considering that I usually only used to sleep for ~5 hours tops (a little more these days, due to stress and study, etc.), it's a GOOD thing)!
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I have noticed the same thing with Lipo PM- I only sleep about 4-6 hours a night usually- but I feel like I have had a full 8 hours when I take PM. I have had quite a few people notice the same thing- even on 4 hours sleep (like last night- had to stay up and watch the 100m finals at the Olympics- Usain is insane, LOL) I woke up refreshed and ready to go @ 4:30....
 
rms80 said:
I have noticed the same thing with Lipo PM- I only sleep about 4-6 hours a night usually- but I feel like I have had a full 8 hours when I take PM. I have had quite a few people notice the same thing- even on 4 hours sleep (like last night- had to stay up and watch the 100m finals at the Olympics- Usain is insane, LOL) I woke up refreshed and ready to go @ 4:30....
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Anybody called bolt is going to be insane ;)

I've also noticed the same "deeper/more restful" sleep effects from IGF-2, Lipo-PM and 1-Carboxy. You feel more refreshed when you wake up. Melatonin on the other hand often makes me groggy in the morning, but it helps with falling asleep. Double edged-sword.
 
Steveoph said:
Anybody called bolt is going to be insane ;)

I've also noticed the same "deeper/more restful" sleep effects from IGF-2, Lipo-PM and 1-Carboxy. You feel more refreshed when you wake up. Melatonin on the other hand often makes me groggy in the morning, but it helps with falling asleep. Double edged-sword.
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I usually combine 3-6 mg of melatonin with the PM- works awesome for me- but I have heard of some people being groggy in the morning when they take too much....
 
I'm in the same boat as far as Lipo PM. I can't sleep at all once I take it. Nowadays I use it pre w/o.
 
Has anybody used them both so they can comment on the similarities/differences between the two? Right now I'm between a Scorch/LX/Lipo-PM stack or a REDuction/LX stack.
 
Babylon1023 said:
Has anybody used them both so they can comment on the similarities/differences between the two? Right now I'm between a Scorch/LX/Lipo-PM stack or a REDuction/LX stack.
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you will probably get more results on scorch, but it is also the only fatburner to ever give me gastro problems- i couldn't tolerate it very well. reduction is milder but will still give results, i enjoyed using it.
 
giantbrandon said:
i use 500-1000mg of gabba as my night time fat burner
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i use 1-2 grams of bulk gabba occasionally to help with sleep, only problem with using it as a fatburner is tolerance builds quickly if used more than a few times a week. you might try occasional gaba along with a fatburner for better results. btw using gabba sublingually really enhances effects.
 
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