literally all "pumpkin pie spice" is is a mix of other spices... clove, nutmeg, cinnamon, etc. You have all the ingredients ha
I prefer using ready mixes where possible to ensure proper ratios between them.
My experiment of home making fajita mix with spices I already had was a wake up call that even if you have all the ingredients, you can still massively mess up lol.
I am late to the game and don't want to bring up anything that has died, but I feel the need to chime in as one of the people who has HEAVILY criticised PES for recent changes.
Yes, PES has made changes and list some of my business, but so what? It's business and as much as any if us can get upset...are they going to NOT go in a new direction just so they can sell me 2 bottles of OG Norcodrene every year? I know I wouldn't do that and I doubt anyone else here would either. We all have bills to pay and at some point it is stupid to not change direction .
I still love Select, High Volume, Shift. They will come out with more great stuff too I bet. Amino IV used to be my staple, and I was upset with the change, but in reality it is still a good product focused on Aminos. Not really any different than Modern BCAA which gets love still.
Beyond that, everyone who is with the company that I've spoken with is top notch and I have respect for them as individuals. From BDCC down to their newest reps...they are always willing to discuss things and help out. Honestly, they probably don't even need this board anymore and yet, here they are.
Thank you, I appreciate the support and time taken to write that.
In amongst the forum backlash for reformulations on two of our products, our actual company ethos has never changed. People painted it out like we were money hungry and suddenly decided to overhaul our products to maximise profits when in reality it wasn't like that at all.
The overwhelming majority of our products didn't change. High Volume, GenoFlex, Ergonine, Shift are still extremely well dosed products intended to be market leaders in their respective categories. New Amino IV has 5g leucine per serving, more than the overwhelming majority of amino products (trust me on this, I went through 15 pages of an online catalogue to test the theory lol).
The only thing we changed was the angle we took with stimulant products.
This isn't hugely surprising given we started as an underground brand on this forum and have rapidly evolved into being sold at two major brick and mortar chains in America as well as nearly a top #30 brand at the biggest online supplement retailer.
It is super easy to compare us to X brand or Y brand when they are not sold through these avenues. As we grow we must make sure that we are offering the best products we can whilst also ensuring they are going to be safe for consumers, especially now our consumer base is bigger and more diverse than ever.
We appreciate that some people prefer more hardcore stimulant options but playing around in a market which is filled with ingredients of a questionable compliance status simply isn't something we are prepared to do.
Once again, a huge thank you for your support and for taking the time to praise our products and our team. It means a lot.
