NEW Anabolic /designer steroid act...version 2014!! :(

[professorDD87]

Was waiting on taxes to run my first cycle and now its harder to find ph then the real gear 10g of pure tren ace powder for 150 dont sound so bad

 

[Madevilz]

They sent an email out stating that they were still open, they just had to edit the site for regulations. They said all orders should ship in 1-2 days

cool thanks brother

 

[warrior737]

Lmao at the paranoid buyers.

I'm not paranoid at all bro. I was just stating the obvious and bitching about it a bit. UG labs are all over and they will just rule now.

 

[koi1214]

https://www.tgbsupplements.com/c-698...-builders.aspx

Today is the last day to order your PH products from our website.This includes BLR Formeron and Mr. Supps Formastanzol.

You can use code koi1214 to save $5 too.

 

[Johnold]

Amazing how sad, quiet and desolate Anabolic Minds is since the ProHormone BAN.

 

[brundel]

They will likely have to lighten up on the AAS talk

 

[McCrew530]

Amazing how sad, quiet and desolate Anabolic Minds is since the ProHormone BAN.

Na its just the weekend and the set up to Christmas. AM was just on overlOad due to the ban.

 

[methusaleh]

https://www.tgbsupplements.com/c-698...-builders.aspx

Today is the last day to order your PH products from our website.This includes BLR Formeron and Mr. Supps Formastanzol.

You can use code koi1214 to save $5 too.

Link doesn't work, here it is corrected :wink1:

 

[koi1214]

Works for me now too :sgrin:

 

[Johnold]

I notice Ostarin is safe.

I'm also noticing that it's becoming more of a popular compound. More brands picking it up...is Ostarin safe?

 

[cbsharpe]

I notice Ostarin is safe.

I'm also noticing that it's becoming more of a popular compound. More brands picking it up...is Ostarin safe?

Yes, it is. Used it in my previous cycle and it treated me right.

 

[Johnold]

Been wondering about this.

It's considered a PH?

Not methylated?

 

[koi1214]

Been wondering about this.

It's considered a PH?

Not methylated?

Not not a PH
NOt methylated either

 

[Johnold]

Awesome.

I've been thinking of making a step in supplementation but didn't want to venture into hard core Or harsh stuff.

 

[EatMoar]

Holy shnikes. Anyone in possession of even a bottle is subject to possession charges bacuse no grace period was given? WTF?

lol id laugh if they tried to arrest me, id say its a multivitamin. Cops barley know what tint degree is legal, do you think theyll know about steroids?

 

[Bluedev14]

Anyone know if the DHEA derived PH's like 1-andro 1-alpha are going to be shut down? Saw a1supps has 1-andro by Finaflex on clearance

 

[EatMoar]

Anyone know if the DHEA derived PH's like 1-andro 1-alpha are going to be shut down? Saw a1supps has 1-andro by Finaflex on clearance

I know finaflex stopped making that, but I dont think it got hit with the ban hammer.

 

[00S4Boy]

lol id laugh if they tried to arrest me, id say its a multivitamin. Cops barley know what tint degree is legal, do you think theyll know about steroids?

There should be pretty much no issues with getting arrested for possession of the products, unless your distributing them. Cops aren't going to bust down your door to raid you, DEA might if you have a massive stash just to be *******s.

 

[A AesthetiX]

Ordered some TR3N and it wasn't shipped to me and the company wont send it now.. what is something I can use for my cut now

 

[McCrew530]

Ordered some TR3N and it wasn't shipped to me and the company wont send it now.. what is something I can use for my cut now

A good diet

 

[A AesthetiX]

A good diet

Nahhhhhhh too easy

 

[blacklac]

Anyone know if the DHEA derived PH's like 1-andro 1-alpha are going to be shut down? Saw a1supps has 1-andro by Finaflex on clearance

Basically anything not plant derived is illegal. Just cause its not on the list, doesn't mean its legal. We are talking hormonal/anabolic ingredients, here, obviously. Anything that acts like testosterone, is illegal, via the bill. Dunno why people keep missing that.

 

[McCrew530]

Basically anything not plant derived is illegal. Just cause its not on the list, doesn't mean its legal. We are talking hormonal/anabolic ingredients, here, obviously. Anything that acts like testosterone, is illegal, via the bill. Dunno why people keep missing that.

What is the definition of "acting like testosterone" though?

 

[blacklac]

What is the definition of "acting like testosterone" though?

I paraphrased.



``(C)(i) Subject to clause (ii), a drug or hormonal substance

(other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and

dehydroepiandrosterone) that is not listed in subparagraph (A) and is

derived from, or has a chemical structure substantially similar to, 1

or more anabolic steroids listed in subparagraph (A) shall be

considered to be an anabolic steroid for purposes of this Act if--

``(I) the drug or substance has been created or manufactured

with the intent of producing a drug or other substance that

either--

``(aa) promotes muscle growth; or

``(bb) otherwise causes a pharmacological effect similar to

that of testosterone; or

``(II) the drug or substance has been, or is intended to be,

marketed or otherwise promoted in any manner suggesting that

consuming it will promote muscle growth or any other

pharmacological effect similar to that of testosterone

Rhadam has posted this a few times now.

 

[Bluedev14]

Basically anything not plant derived is illegal. Just cause its not on the list, doesn't mean its legal. We are talking hormonal/anabolic ingredients, here, obviously. Anything that acts like testosterone, is illegal, via the bill. Dunno why people keep missing that.

Just found it odd how some places are still offering them, even though the bill is in effect now

 

[mw1]

Basically anything not plant derived is illegal. Just cause its not on the list, doesn't mean its legal. We are talking hormonal/anabolic ingredients, here, obviously. Anything that acts like testosterone, is illegal, via the bill. Dunno why people keep missing that.

BUT even if a product does meet that criteria it still needs to be DSHEA compliant per FDA guidelines.

 

[Royd The Noyd]

BUT even if a product does meet that criteria it still needs to be DSHEA compliant per FDA guidelines.

The DEA does not enforce DSHEA. And a simple look at history tells you the FDA does a pretty ****ty job enforcing DSHEA, which is exactly why this amendment came to fruition.

 

[mw1]

The DEA does not enforce DSHEA. And a simple look at history tells you the FDA does a pretty ****ty job enforcing DSHEA, which is exactly why this amendment came to fruition.

Never said Dea enforced Dshea. I think you will start seeing the fda and FTC going after companies that are not compliant

 

[Royd The Noyd]

Never said Dea enforced Dshea. I think you will start seeing the fda and FTC going after companies that are not compliant

They do now. Read the weekly enforcement report. They still do a poor job.

 

[Joker666]

Basically anything not plant derived is illegal. Just cause its not on the list, doesn't mean its legal. We are talking hormonal/anabolic ingredients, here, obviously. Anything that acts like testosterone, is illegal, via the bill. Dunno why people keep missing that.

Wrong. That would make dhea, daa, etc illegal. What's illegal is what's on that list which are methylated steriods. This is a ban on steroids marketed as supplements. Anything That Acts Like Test That Would Ban My big Testosterone filled balls. You are wrong.

 

[fueledpassion]

Basically anything not plant derived is illegal. Just cause its not on the list, doesn't mean its legal. We are talking hormonal/anabolic ingredients, here, obviously. Anything that acts like testosterone, is illegal, via the bill. Dunno why people keep missing that.

Except that the Steroid Act does not pertain to individuals but rather businesses and distributors.

The controlled substance list however could possibly get an individual in trouble over simple possession but it wouldn't be constitutional from a federal standpoint.

Know your state's controlled substance list - it isn't always the same as federal. Even better, if u found a substance that is made in the state u live in, and u purchase it in that state, and that substance isn't on their controlled substance list, then the federal government can't get involved but it isn't interstate commerce.

Example u say? Colorado + Marijuana.

 

[Matthersby]

Except that the Steroid Act does not pertain to individuals but rather businesses and distributors.

The controlled substance list however could possibly get an individual in trouble over simple possession but it wouldn't be constitutional from a federal standpoint.

Know your state's controlled substance list - it isn't always the same as federal. Even better, if u found a substance that is made in the state u live in, and u purchase it in that state, and that substance isn't on their controlled substance list, then the federal government can't get involved but it isn't interstate commerce.

Example u say? Colorado + Marijuana.

FP, I still have a man-crush on you.

 

[professorDD87]

My local spots are still selling lol and from what I've seen some places are still doing dmz since it wasn't listed but all anyone would really need to do is order from a company outside the states if it makes it past customs you should be good to go

 

[blacklac]

Wrong. That would make dhea, daa, etc illegal. What's illegal is what's on that list which are methylated steriods. This is a ban on steroids marketed as supplements. Anything That Acts Like Test That Would Ban My big Testosterone filled balls. You are wrong.

Umm, no. Read my post after the one you quoted. Thats (part of) the bill... Putting your head in the sand doesn't make things legal.





DHEA is exempt, per the bill...

 

[lboston]

Formeron is formestane which is on the list currently. We are selling out of stock rapidly.

I use this as part of trt to keep E2 in check. Any chance they would "remarket" this or change the formula some how so it isn't banned?

 

[fueledpassion]

For what it's worth, the phrase "pharmacologically acts like Testosterone" exists in the old bill of the early 90's and in the 2004 bill.

That didn't seem to stop anyone so I don't know why it should now...

If that statement alone was good enough, then they wouldn't bother with the list in the first place and wouldn't create a quick way for the Attorney General (or whoever it is) to add new compounds to the list.

 

[McCrew530]

I use this as part of trt to keep E2 in check. Any chance they would "remarket" this or change the formula some how so it isn't banned?

Its banned no remarketing will stop making it illegal. However you could probably find an over seas source and make a similar product your self.

 

[fueledpassion]

Its banned no remarketing will stop making it illegal. However you could probably find an over seas source and make a similar product your self.

Problem is, that would be defined as "manufacturing", and that makes the individual subject to the harshest penalties of the law.

I'd rather take my chances by ordering a finished product but that just me.

 

[McCrew530]

Problem is, that would be defined as "manufacturing", and that makes the individual subject to the harshest penalties of the law.

I'd rather take my chances by ordering a finished product but that just me.

Thats true but the only suppliers you are going to be able to find are giong to be overseas so either way you are going to be skirting the law. Just be smart with it if you are going to do it and you should be find, dont go buying 2 grand of product and expect it to clear customs

 

[john6370]

Anyone know if the DHEA derived PH's like 1-andro 1-alpha are going to be shut down? Saw a1supps has 1-andro by Finaflex on clearance

looks like 1,4,5 dhea are safe because they come from plants and animals. Goto lg sciences Web page they have a write up on what they is still legal.

 

[Madevilz]

Just saw that Orbit restocked on some PHs
Is this brand legit?
http://orbitnutrition.com/cart/prohormones.html?subcats=Y&features_hash=V663

 

[lboston]

Just saw that Orbit restocked on some PHs Is this brand legit? http://orbitnutrition.com/cart/prohormones.html?subcats=Y&features_hash=V663

curious myself to hear feedback. I've never heard of them.

 

[Driven2lift]

Haven't had any feedback yet myself but it is one of the very last options left for PH's like tren, so it may be worth giving a try

 

[Toren]

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/brett-becker/69/748/ab1

 

[McCrew530]

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/brett-becker/69/748/ab1

I thought shredded labs went under?

 

[xhrr]

Just saw that Orbit restocked on some PHs Is this brand legit? http://orbitnutrition.com/cart/prohormones.html?subcats=Y&features_hash=V663

It's worth a shot im gonna pick up some halodrol

 

[Toren]

I thought shredded labs went under?

I honestly don't know much other then what I've read but after the issues with some of their products a while back, they apparently came back and had better success. I was looking at their Hexadrone a few months back but decided against it because of stuff I read on some of the boards.

I have no knowledge on American Nutraceutical Development (AND). Just providing a link.

 

[professorDD87]

Eveything so dirt cheap now why couldnt this had happened around tax time woulda easily dropped a couple k and been good for a long time

 

[McCrew530]

Shredded labs was legit when I used it they had that one issue with their alpha one but they took care of everyone who it effected I ran their tren and epi and it was fine. Lost fat put on muscle strength went up. Makes me glad that I stocked up when I did

 

[EatMoar]

There should be pretty much no issues with getting arrested for possession of the products, unless your distributing them. Cops aren't going to bust down your door to raid you, DEA might if you have a massive stash just to be *******s.

Brb gonna sell hdrol on dem streets!