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Need some opinions? beast/epi

Machwon1

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hey all. Got some questions. I am trying what to do for my next cycle? I have beastdrol and some get this Epi mints.... (i know i know but supposedly 20mg is very affective) My questions is I never ran superdrol or epi... only the one and pp turinbol. Should I run just epi for 5-6 weeks.... or beast for 4 weeks or should i do a beast/epi bridge? Here is what i would do for each cycle..

epi 10/20/25/30/35/35 going up 5mg untill sides kick in

beast 20/20/30/30 try going to 30 and see if that works or to many sides

or

beast 20/20/20/10(for 4 days)
epi 0/0/0/20/25/30


main goal is bulk right now 196 at 14-16%bf wanna try to get to 210 at same bf if possible
 
Beast 10/20/20 go up as needed.
Epi 0/0/30/30/30/30 go up as needed.
May as well get the best out of your run with a bridge.
 
Epi "MINT" and 20mg is effective? never heard of mint but i dont see how anything is going to make 20mg is epi effective. 20mg if epi is like nothing

and how does running the bridge save you money on PCT that does not sound right
 
epimint is a tablet you chew and place under the tongue to dissolve... i am planning on 30mg probally...

PCT is formazano,unleashed,pct,sustain alpha,tcf-1 first 12 days...

also have nolva on hand... i like trying otc first and but if i feel to shut down i will use nolva
 
Dear lord? What? on pp's website it shows the danger of serms and that most can bounce right back with OTC... I ran turinbol for 6 weeks from pp sarting at 60 for two weeks the rest at 90 and had no effects at all... no sides.. no obivous shutdown... and the first day of pct i was still horny and libido never dropepd once.... is superdrol really this bad? if so maybe ill stick to epi only....
 
You WILL need a SERM for superdrol bro. It's a fully potent active steroid, second best to M1T. Anything second best to m1t should not be taken lightly LOL.

You can bounce right back with OTC.

You can also bounce right back naturally using nothing.

Your best bet is with a SERM tho. That's that, not debating or anything. SERM for superdrol.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Epi "MINT" and 20mg is effective? never heard of mint but i dont see how anything is going to make 20mg is epi effective. 20mg if epi is like nothing

and how does running the bridge save you money on PCT that does not sound right
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I know you're not a big responder to Epi, but I've had numerous runs with great recomp and strength gains at 20mg daily for 4 weeks.
 
chocolatemilk said:
You WILL need a SERM for superdrol bro. It's a fully potent active steroid, second best to M1T. Anything second best to m1t should not be taken lightly LOL.

You can bounce right back with OTC.

You can also bounce right back naturally using nothing.

Your best bet is with a SERM tho. That's that, not debating or anything. SERM for superdrol.
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Listen to this man, he's speaking the truth. SERM or don't run the cycle. This really isn't up for debate unless you don't care about your body.
 
What is the best serm for this then? nolva? clomid? I want an pretty simple pct if possible. Also doseages on the serm would be great. nolva 20/20/20/20? or clomid 100/75.50/25? What do you guys think is best with less sides
 
Machwon1 said:
What is the best serm for this then? nolva? clomid? I want an pretty simple pct if possible. Also doseages on the serm would be great. nolva 20/20/20/20? or clomid 100/75.50/25? What do you guys think is best with less sides
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Either will do fine. I personally like Nolva for Superdrol runs.
 
The_Reverend said:
I know you're not a big responder to Epi, but I've had numerous runs with great recomp and strength gains at 20mg daily for 4 weeks.
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well i am jealous, all i can say is that is pretty atypical, people usually do 40-50mg a day. I understand the better responders love 30mg and can get results off 20mg but like i said, atypical.

I am unsure about this "MINT" and the way way better absorption... I have experimented with all kinds of crap with my methyl steroids... i've tried the olive oil shooters, i've tried putting the powder under my tongue (lol). But I think this improves the SPEED of absorption rather than the overall potency on a mg/mg basis.

And no offense to PP but of course they say that SERMS are bad, they can't sell SERMs and don't benefit from their sales. A lot of supplement companies say that they are bad for you.
HOWEVER, SERMS remain the best option for PCT after any half-serious cycle IMO
 
UnrealMachine said:
well i am jealous, all i can say is that is pretty atypical, people usually do 40-50mg a day. I understand the better responders love 30mg and can get results off 20mg but like i said, atypical.

I am unsure about this "MINT" and the way way better absorption... I have experimented with all kinds of crap with my methyl steroids... i've tried the olive oil shooters, i've tried putting the powder under my tongue (lol). But I think this improves the SPEED of absorption rather than the overall potency on a mg/mg basis.

And no offense to PP but of course they say that SERMS are bad, they can't sell SERMs and don't benefit from their sales. A lot of supplement companies say that they are bad for you.
HOWEVER, SERMS remain the best option for PCT after any half-serious cycle IMO
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Agreed here with unreal- pp does not benefit from serm use- they do benefit from their own pct products


SERM use can be toxic and harmful with EXTENDED LONG TERM USE

4 weeks- not going to hurt you

But hey try an otc pct with superdrol and see what happens- u will more than likely recover- but it will take a LONG time and u will loose most if not all ur gains

if u want me to go into the science fine i will but I would reccomend clomid- SD does not armoatase therefore nolva should not be needed- clomid is better at restarting the hpta than nolva
 
I think im going to go with nolva just because it seems as everyone runs it. And it seems a hell of alot easier to get than i thought. (only concern is if i get bunk nolva then my pct is junk anything i should run along side maybe use sustain alpha and tcf-1 just incase)
 
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