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natural testbooster

im 17 going on 18 is a natural testbooster going to **** me up if i use it for a month -6weeks to gain some stregth and mass before football season becaus itsmy senior year and i wanna be the best i can be?
 
maddog28 said:
im 17 going on 18 is a natural testbooster going to **** me up if i use it for a month -6weeks to gain some stregth and mass before football season becaus itsmy senior year and i wanna be the best i can be?
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No but at your age I wouldn't bother, you test is very high as it is. Eat good food!! Plenty of it!!
 
^^^it wouldnt mess you up at all, but at your age you have plenty of test to use. just use creatine, bcaas, amino acids, lots of food and protein. IMO the strongest test booster is DTP
 
R1balla said:
^^^it wouldnt mess you up at all, but at your age you have plenty of test to use. just use creatine, bcaas, amino acids, lots of food and protein. IMO the strongest test booster is DTP
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DTP contains DHEA....no way I would recommend that to a kid that is 17 going on 18 years old. Stick to what Dreamweaver said. Hit the weight room hard and eat as much as you humanly can. A Test Booster isn't going to help you right now. Save those for a couple years down the road. Creatine, Protein, Multi-Vitamin, Essential Fatty Acids, food, food, food, and some more food. You seriously would be almost wasting your $$$ on a test booster. That $$$ can go to much more useful avenues. And DO NOT buy DTP.
 
did i tell him to use DTP? no, i just gave my opinion on what is the best test booster. for me, it is DTP. for a 17yr old not using as PCT, i wouldnt even use a test booster. thats why i agreed with Dream not to and to stick with the basics. read my post THOROUGHLY before you comment. thanks
 
ZMA is good, and safe for all ages. Granted, your not going to get crazy results, but the sleep benefits are worth it, and if i take it for a month or two straight, i definitly notice higher test... My face breaks out terribly and i feel stronger, harder, and leaner... I think i'm very sensitive to the stuff because my diet is a bit deficient in zinc as well... Unless your getting alot of meat/seafood, yours may be too...
 
ya ZMA is awesome. i normally wake up once during the night without ZMA or an HGH product, and with ZMA, i never wake up. gets me to my REM sleep so i can truly get rest and grow.
 
maddog28 said:
i eat alot of meat i eat turkey for lunch fish for dinner and chicken for a snack
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That is about what i get, and ZMA is still very effective for me...i normally have 1 - 2 servings of meat per day, but foods truly rich in zinc are like oysters and seafood of that nature... I still reccomend ZMA supplementation for safe and effective test boosting, especially for teens... It will allow you to reach your full test producing potential... I read it was proven to increase test by 40%! Over a long period of time this can lead to significant gains, especially with sleep benefits.
 
ive never seen a study on ZMA, or even looked for one...lol but i wouldnt be surprised if it increased free test by quite a bit
 
Personally I don't see why Prime or Powerful couldn't be helpful here. Both are involved in growth and muscle recovery. ZMA /ZMP (MSTs) would be good additions.

A good multi-vit/mineral/adaptogen I'm running Triad right now. MVA (MST) is also good. Finally monos partic. olive oil

Don't use ADAM at your age though.
 
natural test boosters are pretty cool. but no matter what you go with, dont expect a whole lot. you might gain a couple of pounds of muscle but you wont see steroid like results
 
Biggest thing lacking that I see with highschool age kids is their protein intake. Just make it a point of taking in the 1-1.5 grams per lb of body weight of protein each day. That alone will be some work for you if it was all done with food. There never seems to be a problem for you guys getting the carbs in. Next, you also tend to over train. You are in off season so strength and size are the issue. I would do 3 days a week of heavy compound exercises, taking the working sets to total failure. I like DC training myself but you can go with what you want. And get some damn sleep. My 18yr old never seems to be able to get in bed at a decent time.
 
ive been on phytotest for 3 weeks so far, and the muscle density and strength is on par with Jungle warfare for me although the edge in mass goes slightly toward JW but JW isnt natural in my book so phytotest wins it :)
 
R1balla said:
did i tell him to use DTP? no, i just gave my opinion on what is the best test booster. for me, it is DTP. for a 17yr old not using as PCT, i wouldnt even use a test booster. thats why i agreed with Dream not to and to stick with the basics. read my post THOROUGHLY before you comment. thanks
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Don't take so much offense. You didn't come out and say "TAKE DTP", but you got a young man here looking for a test booster, and regardless of what else you said in your post, you didn't need to mention that in your opinion DTP was the strongest. He reads that, says "Hey, DTP sounds awesome and these guys are saying that a test booster is useless but won't mess me up. I'll take it anyway!". Now you got a 17-18yr old kid taking a supplement containing DHEA. Great. Will it kill the kid? NO. That doesn't mean it's OK for him to take. You gave him your opinion and I gave him mine. That's what a forums for. BTW, I did read your post thoroughly, my gripe was with the fact you even brought up DTP at all. IMO that was irresponsible. Young guys looking for an edge are impressionable and sometimes don't always listen to the best advice. :damnit1:

Can't belive I got negged for telling the kid not to take DTP!! This place is becoming a joke.
 
I've read a response before that said to boost test just do some heavy ass squats.

At 17 and considering a test booster is obviously a sign the OP wants something to support mass gains for football. I don't think a booster would be the optimum choice.

I also wouldn't recommend anything hormonal, even sarcastically, some people may understand the joke but others will not. Understand the audience, the OP is just 17.

As previously posted - "Creatine, Protein, Multi-Vitamin, Essential Fatty Acids, food, food, food, and some more food. You seriously would be almost wasting your $$$ on a test booster."
 
BurghHardcore said:
Don't take so much offense. You didn't come out and say "TAKE DTP", but you got a young man here looking for a test booster, and regardless of what else you said in your post, you didn't need to mention that in your opinion DTP was the strongest. He reads that, says "Hey, DTP sounds awesome and these guys are saying that a test booster is useless but won't mess me up. I'll take it anyway!". Now you got a 17-18yr old kid taking a supplement containing DHEA. Great. Will it kill the kid? NO. That doesn't mean it's OK for him to take. You gave him your opinion and I gave him mine. That's what a forums for. BTW, I did read your post thoroughly, my gripe was with the fact you even brought up DTP at all. IMO that was irresponsible. Young guys looking for an edge are impressionable and sometimes don't always listen to the best advice. :damnit1:

Can't belive I got negged for telling the kid not to take DTP!! This place is becoming a joke.
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Ive been on here since 05, got a new avi, but yeah the general population has seemed to become slightly moronic. The few people who seem to be ''informed,'' well i rarley see there posts. .
 
scoooter said:
I've read a response before that said to boost test just do some heavy ass squats.

At 17 and considering a test booster is obviously a sign the OP wants something to support mass gains for football. I don't think a booster would be the optimum choice.

I also wouldn't recommend anything hormonal, even sarcastically, some people may understand the joke but others will not. Understand the audience, the OP is just 17.

As previously posted - "Creatine, Protein, Multi-Vitamin, Essential Fatty Acids, food, food, food, and some more food. You seriously would be almost wasting your $$$ on a test booster."
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Right on Scooter.

Deadlifts, Squats, 100% Natural Peanut Butter, Steaks, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, sleep, and an ass whooping session in the gym is what an 18yr old needs to get big.
 
BurghHardcore said:
Right on Scooter.

Deadlifts, Squats, 100% Natural Peanut Butter, Steaks, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, sleep, and an ass whooping session in the gym is what an 18yr old needs to get big.
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I agree with this, and people never suggest sprints. Sprint work great for releasing hormones.... although in offseason I would'nt sprint more than 3 times a week.
 
AFter everyworkout id suggest eating 2-3 hardboiled eggs with a protien shake... that helped me tremendously in offseason for wrestling... fyi
 
crowpass said:
Ive been on here since 05, got a new avi, but yeah the general population has seemed to become slightly moronic. The few people who seem to be ''informed,'' well i rarley see there posts. .
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Generally I agree. You and I both know there is still an over abundance of knowledge and great people to be found here. Which is why I stay and don't find another place to call "home". You have the usual suspects breaking off proper knowledge, and you have the usual suspects providing "something else". Great guys like Rodja, Dsade, Trauma, IC, and many others make this a great place. Speaking of....where the hell has MulletSoldier been?
 
crowpass said:
I agree with this, and people never suggest sprints. Sprint work great for releasing hormones.... although in offseason I would sprint more than 3 times a week.
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Sprints are an excellent suggestion! Glad you brought that up, although I live in Pittsburgh I absolutely despise the cold. So I'm pretty much in hibernation mode when it comes to the outdoors. Once spring and summer rolls around I do sprints here and there. You're exhausted afterwards but at the same time you feel really great!
 
what about Jayhaawk, or pembroke, thundergod. . theres alot my friend. I believe they usually stick to the anabolic threads though.
 
Anywyas to the op.. I will suggest prime and testopro. Testopro is proven in labs to raise test through natural means. and prime, well we all know how badass of a supp it is for strength. yea yea, zma, protien, eggs, sleep, creatine. thats all you should use, maybe an no2 supp, PRE-MAX by primordial performance and nos Ether by get diesel nutrition for your creatine. . Great pre and post workout products. If you stack those with the prime and testopro, you will be guaranteed to see results if you eat enough. ...
 
BurghHardcore said:
Sprints are an excellent suggestion! Glad you brought that up, although I live in Pittsburgh I absolutely despise the cold. So I'm pretty much in hibernation mode when it comes to the outdoors. Once spring and summer rolls around I do sprints here and there. You're exhausted afterwards but at the same time you feel really great!
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Its all the endorphins and hormones being released. After two hours of rolling around on a mat i feel tired but at the same time, euphoric.
 
crowpass said:
Anywyas to the op.. I will suggest prime and testopro. Testopro is proven in labs to raise test through natural means. and prime, well we all know how badass of a supp it is for strength. yea yea, zma, protien, eggs, sleep, creatine. thats all you should use, maybe an no2 supp, PRE-MAX by primordial performance and nos Ether by get diesel nutrition for your creatine. . Great pre and post workout products. If you stack those with the prime and testopro, you will be guaranteed to see results if you eat enough. ...
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Two of may favourite products and I'll admit he will probably get strength increase and better results. I just don't think they will be significant enough to be his area of focus as far as supplementation goes at this time. I have trained quite a few football players and have been able to make outstanding progress with just diet. When they're this young it's like they're already using something, simply fascinating to watch.

I think it's smart to shift the focus to diet, make your diet do the work. If your depending on your diet for gains you will be more motivated and focussed to build a stronger foundation. Then in a few years when you are an expert in self discipline, statetically add supplementation to push yourself forward. This is always the best training model.

Oh and weight training is only part of the equation, speed and quickness are the real key. I made my son big and strong but I sent him to specific sports training experts and they made him fast and powerfull on the field. It was freaky whatching him tear apart people much bigger than him on the field. Never give up speed and power for size, especially at your age.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Two of may favourite products and I'll admit he will probably get strength increase and better results. I just don't think they will be significant enough to be his area of focus as far as supplementation goes at this time. I have trained quite a few football players and have been able to make outstanding progress with just diet. When they're this young it's like they're already using something, simply fascinating to watch.

I think it's smart to shift the focus to diet, make your diet do the work. If your depending on your diet for gains you will be more motivated and focussed to build a stronger foundation. Then in a few years when you are an expert in self discipline, statetically add supplementation to push yourself forward. This is always the best training model.
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Agreed. Ive never trained anybody but myself. Diet is key.
 
crowpass said:
Anywyas to the op.. I will suggest prime and testopro. Testopro is proven in labs to raise test through natural means. and prime, well we all know how badass of a supp it is for strength. yea yea, zma, protien, eggs, sleep, creatine. thats all you should use, maybe an no2 supp, PRE-MAX by primordial performance and nos Ether by get diesel nutrition for your creatine. . Great pre and post workout products. If you stack those with the prime and testopro, you will be guaranteed to see results if you eat enough. ...
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About to start a 7-week run (minimum) of Prime here in a couple days. Looking forward to that. I also have two jugs of Nos-Ether waiting too. Don't know if I should use that during Prime or after. I actually have a couple questions about my stack in general, so I will be starting a thread on it either later tonight or tomorrow.
 
BurghHardcore said:
Don't take so much offense. You didn't come out and say "TAKE DTP", but you got a young man here looking for a test booster, and regardless of what else you said in your post, you didn't need to mention that in your opinion DTP was the strongest. He reads that, says "Hey, DTP sounds awesome and these guys are saying that a test booster is useless but won't mess me up. I'll take it anyway!". Now you got a 17-18yr old kid taking a supplement containing DHEA. Great. Will it kill the kid? NO. That doesn't mean it's OK for him to take. You gave him your opinion and I gave him mine. That's what a forums for. BTW, I did read your post thoroughly, my gripe was with the fact you even brought up DTP at all. IMO that was irresponsible. Young guys looking for an edge are impressionable and sometimes don't always listen to the best advice. :damnit1:

Can't belive I got negged for telling the kid not to take DTP!! This place is becoming a joke.
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Im not like most ppl on here. when somebody asks a question, i dont ask for diet and training and everything unless they r wanting advice on a cycle. he asked whats the best test booster. and FOR ME, it is DTP. I advised him not to even take a test booster, but I answered his question. heck, i told him to take natural stuff like bcaas, amino acids, protein, creatine. you need to chill bro. you gave your opinion, i gave mine. im not telling him to take DTP, i just said FOR ME thats the strongest.
 
crowpass said:
Ive been on here since 05, got a new avi, but yeah the general population has seemed to become slightly moronic. The few people who seem to be ''informed,'' well i rarley see there posts. .
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Okay I'll quit posting ;) . Apologies for the previous 1000 posts.

As with any forum you have to know the players. AM contains some very serious competitive body builders who are informed and responsible about what they do. DreamWeaver is one of many. They are also serious about sharing knowledge and moral.

Come to think of it Crowpass looks pretty good as well.

Anyway the point of the thread is that protein intake is probably insufficient.

A cycle of DHEA (and pregnenolone) isn't the end of the world - it could be a bit pointless at 17. Transdermal DHEA risks a bit of shutdown. >DHEA will risk cortisol collapse after the cycle has finished and could give you adrenal fatigue. DHEA blocks cortisol.< The real risk is PH usage and associated heavy shutdown and that is dangerous at 17. So no PH!
 
R1balla said:
Im not like most ppl on here. when somebody asks a question, i dont ask for diet and training and everything unless they r wanting advice on a cycle. he asked whats the best test booster. and FOR ME, it is DTP. I advised him not to even take a test booster, but I answered his question. heck, i told him to take natural stuff like bcaas, amino acids, protein, creatine. you need to chill bro. you gave your opinion, i gave mine. im not telling him to take DTP, i just said FOR ME thats the strongest.
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Let me apologize. I actually still think I'm correct in my evaluation, but my reply was more of a knee-jerk reaction to someone (who didn't even choose to contribute in this thread) choosing to Neg my comment telling the kid not to take DTP. I read your first post fully the first time and understand you didn't recommend it to the kid, but I still dont' think a supp. containing DHEA should have been brought into the equation. No worries, I did some dead's this morning, so maybe I was having a bit of a "test boost"! :439:
 
DreamWeaver said:
If your depending on your diet for gains you will be more motivated and focussed to build a stronger foundation. Then in a few years when you are an expert in self discipline, statetically add supplementation to push yourself forward. This is always the best training model.
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Dreamweaver Jan, 2010
 
crowpass said:
I agree with this, and people never suggest sprints. Sprint work great for releasing hormones.... although in offseason I would'nt sprint more than 3 times a week.
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At 22 brah, looking at porn will "release" hormones. lol.

Keep it real brah.

Young pups dont have to do much to see gains. Just some honest hard work, food and sleep.
 
has any one tried test-evol , super test, T-bol, testopro, supremacy. has any one tried any of these and are they natural?
 
I have used TestoPro and it produces a great Libido boost. Natty also!!
 
maddog28 said:
will it give me good mass and strength incresse?
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It would be a good addition if the diet,workout, and recovery are dialed in. Big food and big weights are going to put the size on bubba. You can't get around that!!
 
I'd be really hesitant to advise anything hormonal at this stage, but certainly anything with testofen as it's base ingredient e.g Invalid Link Removed, testopro would be excellent.

I'm also loving Prime :D
 
I love Prime...wish I never had to come off it!!
 
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