Natadrol QUESTIONS!

GMG760 said:
3 weeks is a pretty short M1D cycle. I'd suggest just waiting and running the 6 weeker when you have the time.
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I could make it 4 weeks no problem, i just don't feel like opening another bottle. If i can see results from 3 weeks then i will be hyped about a longer cycle.
 
GMG760 said:
No reason to use MMV2 and Furazadrol. Use one or the other.

MMV3 = 3-alpha-Hydroxy etioallicolan-17-one
MMV2 = 3-beta-Hydroxy etioallicolan-17-one

Alpha, beta.
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why? (referring to furazadrol and mmv2)
arent they different?
beta and alpha doesnt change its effects, does it?
 
rochabp said:
why? (referring to furazadrol and mmv2)
arent they different?
beta and alpha doesnt change its effects, does it?
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Well, yes they are different. But they are used for the same purpose.

They are both a repartitioning hormone (one meant for hardening and fat loss, with very lean, but somewhat meager weight gain). Stanalone (MMV2/3) has more androgenic effects (strength, aggression) than Furazabol (oristan-a... aka furazadrol), but I leaned out more on Furazabol. So, pick your poison... I would say that the MMV2/3 would be better if you were more concerned with weight gain, and the furazabol would better be suited for fat loss. Since you are already going to run the Hdrol, you are going to gain size and weight from that anyway, so if you want more aggression hit the stanalone, if you want more re-partitioning hit the furazabol.

The beta isomer is stronger, but MMV3 with it's alpha isomer is sub-lingual, which means that more should be absorbed into the bloodstream, so the effects I would think would even out. I have yet to try MMV3.

The reason that I say not to take both is that like I said above, more doesn't always equal better. You only have so many androgen receptors and the Hdrol is going to take up most of those, as it is a type 1 anabolic, which binds to the androgen receptor. Furazabol is a type 2 anabolic, which doesn't bind to the androgen receptor, which makes them a PERFECT combination as far as how much of the hormone you can actually use to build muscle. If you take two type one anabolics, you run the risk of wasting some of your dose, as you may totally take up all the androgen receptors and not be able to absorb any more of the hormone, rendering it kinda pointless, and just harsh on your body. I mean, you COULD take M1T and Superdrol at the same time too... but I wouldn't recommend it, you'd probably hurt yourself. While taking both furaz and stanalone probably wouldn't hurt you... you'd have better results using one or the other on another cycle, rather than just running 3 hormones. I've done my experimenting, and 2 hormones a cycle is all I run these days. I am honestly not sure if MMV2/3 is a type one or type two anabolic though, I'll have to look that up.
 
GMG760 said:
Well, yes they are different. But they are used for the same purpose.

They are both a repartitioning hormone (one meant for hardening and fat loss, with very lean, but somewhat meager weight gain). Stanalone (MMV2/3) has more androgenic effects (strength, aggression) than Furazabol (oristan-a... aka furazadrol), but I leaned out more on Furazabol. So, pick your poison... I would say that the MMV2/3 would be better if you were more concerned with weight gain, and the furazabol would better be suited for fat loss. Since you are already going to run the Hdrol, you are going to gain size and weight from that anyway, so if you want more aggression hit the stanalone, if you want more re-partitioning hit the furazabol.

The beta isomer is stronger, but MMV3 with it's alpha isomer is sub-lingual, which means that more should be absorbed into the bloodstream, so the effects I would think would even out. I have yet to try MMV3.

The reason that I say not to take both is that like I said above, more doesn't always equal better. You only have so many androgen receptors and the Hdrol is going to take up most of those, as it is a type 1 anabolic, which binds to the androgen receptor. Furazabol is a type 2 anabolic, which doesn't bind to the androgen receptor, which makes them a PERFECT combination as far as how much of the hormone you can actually use to build muscle. If you take two type one anabolics, you run the risk of wasting some of your dose, as you may totally take up all the androgen receptors and not be able to absorb any more of the hormone, rendering it kinda pointless, and just harsh on your body. I mean, you COULD take M1T and Superdrol at the same time too... but I wouldn't recommend it, you'd probably hurt yourself. While taking both furaz and stanalone probably wouldn't hurt you... you'd have better results using one or the other on another cycle, rather than just running 3 hormones. I've done my experimenting, and 2 hormones a cycle is all I run these days. I am honestly not sure if MMV2/3 is a type one or type two anabolic though, I'll have to look that up.
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AWESOME INFO BRO
im focusing more on a cut so i think ill stick with furazadrol.
you know if taking furaza-a(cel) and furazadrol(axis) is okay?
i have one bottle of axis labs but i can get furaza a cheaper online so i was wondering since they are both the same i shouldnt have problems right?
 
rochabp said:
AWESOME INFO BRO
im focusing more on a cut so i think ill stick with furazadrol.
you know if taking furaza-a(cel) and furazadrol(axis) is okay?
i have one bottle of axis labs but i can get furaza a cheaper online so i was wondering since they are both the same i shouldnt have problems right?
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It's exactly the same and they are both reputable companies. Take whichever you can find cheapest IMO.
 
GMG760 said:
Now it would be the MMV3. If you want the MMV2, I believe CEL sells a clone of it. They are similar hormones, except one is alpha the other beta.

and one has Y:(

I used a 50/50/25/25 serm of Clomid when I ran Hdrol, but I ran it for 6 weeks with the last 3 over 100mg e/d. So, I probably needed one. At 50/50/50/50 or even 50/50/75/75/75 I wouldn't bother with a serm, I would just get a really good OTC pct set up.

I don't know the actual chemical process that stanalone creates in the body to make one lose fat. I imagine it increases one's metabolism, but Irish Canon is the guy to talk to about that. All I know is that it makes my aggression increase, my subcutaneous water decrease, and I harden up while losing fat. I would compare it to Oristan-A except with more strength gain and aggression.
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Y screws me up.
 
waverebelfore said:
great info guys.. I like the fight in your arguements...
I always like hearing opinion but I am the type of person who needs to experience it for myself

- I will be buying 2 bottles of Natadrol to run at 6 pills a day

SHOULD I STACK IT WITH

- Anadraulic State
OR
- M1D + natadrol?
OR
- The trifecta stack? and save Anadraulic state for the PCT with Formadrol?

I was trying to avoid the Masterdrol cause I heard its a conversion from DHT and can cause hairloss... which i am trying to avoid when only getting a few pounds of muscle



I will continue taking
BCAAs
Vitamins
glutamine
pre workout
Xtend during workout
and whatever else I feel like poppin ha
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i would stack it with Y FREE Psarm,ASGT and Ghenerate. would make an awesome stack imo.
 
Sounds good... I will run natadrol with anadraulic state and Postat!!!

I am very excited i will start one week after Memorial day (the following monday)

everyone seems to like the dose 6pills for 6 weeks witht he natadrol? is that correct?
 
hmmm I heard someone say that.. the only thing is that 72 unused pills in that last 30 dollar bottle if I start with 8..

but id probably do like 5/6/6/8/8/8/8.... makes me think tho
thats 7 weeks on... any suggestions? i can get an extra bottle quick if i wanted to ramp up after week 2
 
waverebelfore said:
hmmm I heard someone say that.. the only thing is that 72 unused pills in that last 30 dollar bottle if I start with 8..

but id probably do like 5/6/6/8/8/8/8.... makes me think tho
thats 7 weeks on... any suggestions? i can get an extra bottle quick if i wanted to ramp up after week 2
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I'm not sure if it needs to be ramped up or not.

3 bottles makes 8 a day for a few days over 6 weeks.
 
GMG760 said:
Now it would be the MMV3. If you want the MMV2, I believe CEL sells a clone of it. They are similar hormones, except one is alpha the other beta.
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Is it M-drol? I bought 2 bottles of what was supposed to be MMv2 and MMv3 showed up lol... i guess i'll sell them to a friend or something haha.
 
Killerkanadia said:
Is it M-drol? I bought 2 bottles of what was supposed to be MMv2 and MMv3 showed up lol... i guess i'll sell them to a friend or something haha.
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No reason to lose the MMV3... they both result in the hormone Stanalone... plus the way that the MMV3 gets into your system should be at a much higher rate of conversion.

Mdrol is not the Methyl Masterdrol V2 clone. MDrol is the Superdrol (methyldrostanalone) I won't say the name of it out of respect to LG Sciences, but dude... it converts to Stanalone. Check the names of the CEL clones, it is pretty obvious. Worst comes to worst... match up the hormone structure in the ingredient panel.

I wouldn't knock the MMV3 until you used it.
 
GMG760 said:
No reason to lose the MMV3... they both result in the hormone Stanalone... plus the way that the MMV3 gets into your system should be at a much higher rate of conversion.

Mdrol is not the Methyl Masterdrol V2 clone. MDrol is the Superdrol (methyldrostanalone) I won't say the name of it out of respect to LG Sciences, but dude... it converts to Stanalone. Check the names of the CEL clones, it is pretty obvious. Worst comes to worst... match up the hormone structure in the ingredient panel.

I wouldn't knock the MMV3 until you used it.
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By no means was i knocking LG, i am very satisfied with their products. I just took MMv3 and natadrol for 30 days and was very impressed with my results. I was trying to pick up some bottles of v2 because i wanted to try it, but after i tried to pick up 2 bottles which claimed to be v2, i ended up with v3 lol.
 
I feel like I have an issue haha

I have never tried natadrol and im already talking about a high dose of 8 pills...

If an LG rep could comment as well... its not an issue of buying yoru products I already bought the natabolic stack but wonder if 8 pills would be more beneficial or if i should just do 6 pills... or 6 pills longer than 6 weeks (3 bottles)

I am very excited either way but am curious.
 
Killerkanadia said:
By no means was i knocking LG, i am very satisfied with their products. I just took MMv3 and natadrol for 30 days and was very impressed with my results. I was trying to pick up some bottles of v2 because i wanted to try it, but after i tried to pick up 2 bottles which claimed to be v2, i ended up with v3 lol.
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Can you PM where you bought it? I will look into this so it doesnt keep happening.
waverebelfore said:
I feel like I have an issue haha

I have never tried natadrol and im already talking about a high dose of 8 pills...

If an LG rep could comment as well... its not an issue of buying yoru products I already bought the natabolic stack but wonder if 8 pills would be more beneficial or if i should just do 6 pills... or 6 pills longer than 6 weeks (3 bottles)

I am very excited either way but am curious.
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I would recommend doing 8-9 for you. You are a big guy so you will prob need more. You could start at 6 and see how that treats you and ramp up. Most users who went from 6 to 8 said the difference was night and day. Are you going to log it?
 
waverebelfore said:
I feel like I have an issue haha

I have never tried natadrol and im already talking about a high dose of 8 pills...

If an LG rep could comment as well... its not an issue of buying yoru products I already bought the natabolic stack but wonder if 8 pills would be more beneficial or if i should just do 6 pills... or 6 pills longer than 6 weeks (3 bottles)

I am very excited either way but am curious.
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Eight a day was absolutely the sweet spot for me. I was doing six, but when I upped it to eight, it really kicked in. I also added some M1D the last three weeks of a six week cycle. Excellent results.
 
metroba said:
Can you PM where you bought it? I will look into this so it doesnt keep happening.


I would recommend doing 8-9 for you. You are a big guy so you will prob need more. You could start at 6 and see how that treats you and ramp up. Most users who went from 6 to 8 said the difference was night and day. Are you going to log it?
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Im 183 as of yesterday, I've been taking straight 8 pills every day, 3 with breakfast, 3 with pwo meal, 2 with dinner. It gets extremley intense for me, and I might knock down to six pills, but so far im loving it.
 
IMO...

I improperly dosed Natadrol and the compound peeked too early. If I could go back and do it again, I would have ran 6 caps for 4wks, and then 9 caps for 4 wks. Instead, I ran 6/7/9/9/9/9 and I feel that I could have spaced those high doses out differently. There was no reason for me to go to 9 that early, or even 7 for that matter. 6 was treating me excellent. Live and learn. Never bump up if you're getting solid effects!

Wave,

Your past cycle history may also play a role in how you respond. Have you ran any hormonal-type compound before?
 
I have run:

1. The original Masterdrol + m1p 4 - 5 years back
2. Liquid masterdrol and M1D
3. HDX2 + Mass FX + lean xtreme (2 times)
4. Maxout + reversitol
5. Primal male + anabolic xtreme

I understand some listed r NON hormonal but I believe at the dose I took and the contents now being banned that there was definetly some hormonal effect if my Test actually did increase.

6/6/6/6/9/9/9/9 is like 4 bottles.... well not "like" it ISSS.

I guess I will just play it by ear for now. Starting at 6 for week 1 and 2 then who knows...
 
Irish Cannon said:
IMO...

I improperly dosed Natadrol and the compound peeked too early. If I could go back and do it again, I would have ran 6 caps for 4wks, and then 9 caps for 4 wks. Instead, I ran 6/7/9/9/9/9 and I feel that I could have spaced those high doses out differently. There was no reason for me to go to 9 that early, or even 7 for that matter. 6 was treating me excellent. Live and learn. Never bump up if you're getting solid effects!

Wave,

Your past cycle history may also play a role in how you respond. Have you ran any hormonal-type compound before?
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I just posted this Q in a diff thread, forgive the duplicity...I'm 170 Lbs...would it be of any (greater/less) benefit, for a 'modest' (5.4 week) run, stacked with Prime if both were dosed in a 6/8 scheme w/1 day off? (I workout first thing in the morning) 2 Pre-W/O, 2 PostW/O, 2/lunch, 2/dinner?
Was then going to (hopefully) follow that right into a PinkMag/PF/ASGT 6-8 week run....thoughts?
 
schizm said:
I just posted this Q in a diff thread, forgive the duplicity...I'm 170 Lbs...would it be of any (greater/less) benefit, for a 'modest' (5.4 week) run, stacked with Prime if both were dosed in a 6/8 scheme w/1 day off? (I workout first thing in the morning) 2 Pre-W/O, 2 PostW/O, 2/lunch, 2/dinner?
Was then going to (hopefully) follow that right into a PinkMag/PF/ASGT 6-8 week run....thoughts?
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sounds interesting
have you run prime before?
so you can compare solo vs stacked
but idk man if prime works for you i think it would be awesome to run with nata
 
rochabp said:
sounds interesting
have you run prime before?
so you can compare solo vs stacked
but idk man if prime works for you i think it would be awesome to run with nata
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I'm on roughly week seven of Prime (A-stack), having good results, esp w/strength/hardness....thought that the added Nata would give an added boost to all areas...
 
schizm said:
I just posted this Q in a diff thread, forgive the duplicity...I'm 170 Lbs...would it be of any (greater/less) benefit, for a 'modest' (5.4 week) run, stacked with Prime if both were dosed in a 6/8 scheme w/1 day off? (I workout first thing in the morning) 2 Pre-W/O, 2 PostW/O, 2/lunch, 2/dinner?
Was then going to (hopefully) follow that right into a PinkMag/PF/ASGT 6-8 week run....thoughts?
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It definitely sounds like it would be worth trying. I have never seen Natadrol ran in that format before. You can give it a go and see how it works. I'm actually tempted to do a Natadrol pulse in the future. Toss back 6 caps pre-workout, 4x/wk and see how that works.

I say go for it! Looks like a cool cycle. I think Natadrol would help pick up slack in the areas that PRIME is lacking. I think they work very well together.
 
BTW nata need OTC PCT right?
i heard some say you dont need it but idk
 
rochabp said:
BTW nata need OTC PCT right?
i heard some say you dont need it but idk
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I'm going to run the Formadrol. $20 at Nutra if you get it quick.

It has something to do with your androgen receptors.
 
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I keep laughing outloud in my office everytime I see that cat. It's probably one of the funniest things I have seen. I'm laughing like a little girl
 
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