My 12 week run

Ocelot

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Hello everyone,

I'm a newly registered member. I'm 29 5'8 195lb and I've ran 5 cycles in my life. 1st test only 5 years ago and 4 ph cycles since. I ordered my cycle last April and will be placing another order next week. I want to get opinions before I place it. Here goes

1-12 Test E 500mgs (1000mg front loaded)
1-10 Deca 250mg (not enough Deca to FL)
1-6 Dbol 30-40mg ed
9-12 Winny 50mg ed
3-12 HCG (500 mg split)
1-13 Arimidex .5mg (eod or ed?)

PCT
Clomid
Nolva
Sustain Alpha

My second order will consist of Winny, HCG, Clomid, and Nolva. Can you please critique this cycle and give me some feedback if
should add anything, to adjust, or leave out. Thanks, all info will be put to good use.
 
I don't think you are going to get anything out front loading E. I know guys who have and say they can't tell a difference, which makes absolutely perfect sense based on the ester. You need prop if your gonna kick start with test.
 
Thanks!

1. Will the mg on the Deca be sufficient?
2. This is my first time with Dbol. I've read people taking 20-50mg. What's a good way to estimate a starting dose?
3. If I can should I up the mg on the Winny? (I know I should stick with 3 I have but Winny sounds very attractive at the end.)
4. Any suggestions on preventing hair loss with this cycle?
 
1. Will the mg on the Deca be sufficient? Decca is usually around 400mg weekly, you can still run it at that dosage but Id save it for another cycle until you can run it at a proper dosage.
2. This is my first time with Dbol. I've read people taking 20-50mg. What's a good way to estimate a starting dose? IMO I dont think you need to run dbol for 6 weeks, 4 weeks is enough, Running it 6 weeks is just hurting your liver.
3. If I can should I up the mg on the Winny? (I know I should stick with 3 I have but Winny sounds very attractive at the end.)For the winny run it at least 5 weeks, Just because it takes around 2 weeks to kick in. Keep the dosage around 50-75mg E.D
4. Any suggestions on preventing hair loss with this cycle? Toco-8 Is a good product but i cannot guarentee its gonna prevent hairloss.

Don't Front load on a long Ester AA. If you want a front load order Some prop along with your order, Its fairly cheap, And just blast that at 100mg EOD along with ur test e for the first 4-5 weeks of your cycle.
 
Appreciate the feedback.

What about running the test at 500mg for 10 weeks and Deca at 300 for 8 weeks? Would you run it or save it? (I want to include it b/c I have very achy joints but only at the optimal dose. I read it's advised to take nearly double the amount of test > deca.

What do you think on the dosage for Dbol? 30mg ed?

I have 40mg of Arimidex. I've read about dosages varying all over the place and that it can actually be counter-productive. Thoughts?
 
Great advice for you so far.

I'd keep the test at 12 weeks instead of 10. And for deca, if you're placing another order, I'd maybe just score a bit more, although running it at the dosage you mentioned shouldn't hurt by any means. Agreeing with dbol for 4 weeks. I'd start at 30mg and see how that feels; adjust as needed. As for hair-loss prevention on the winny, you could run some fina to be real safe, but I wouldn't want to mess around with it. I'd check out the N2Shampoo. My hair started thinning from Synthroid (T4) and as soon as my stim break is over, I'll be running N2Shampoo likely indefinitely. Also make sure you've got support supplements to run on cycle as well (I'm sure you do, based on your experience, but didn't see them listed). And also agreeing that there's no need to frontload that test. The dbol should do the trick for you.
 
I'll stay where I'm at with the Deca. The 3 together will be plenty of firepower for me.

I forgot to mention the support supps. I have a bottle of F-liver support but I'll get N2guard and use the LS in Aug before I start.

How should I dose the Arimidex? I've seen a lot of conflicting opinions on this. I picked up a bit of gyno from Diesel 2.0 in 2010 that
has nearly gone away. I'm worried about picking up any more.
 
Ocelot said:
I'll stay where I'm at with the Deca. The 3 together will be plenty of firepower for me.

I forgot to mention the support supps. I have a bottle of F-liver support but I'll get N2guard and use the LS in Aug before I start.

How should I dose the Arimidex? I've seen a lot of conflicting opinions on this. I picked up a bit of gyno from Diesel 2.0 in 2010 that
has nearly gone away. I'm worried about picking up any more.
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As for the adex, I'd say use as needed for sure; let your body guide you. I'm not that well versed in the dosing, though.
 
run winny week 10-14(5 weeks total). that gives your liver a longer break after dbol and also takes you out to where pct begins.

as others said dont bother front loading test e and dont bother with the deca at that dose. as for dbol ive read many times that 50mg is standard dose. i dont use methyls so cant realy comment on dosage for it but thats what most logs report
 
Hey everyone,

I've been seriously considering dropping the Deca and ordering Equipoise. I play several sports (city league) and I'm concerned about the added weight hindering my game. I REALLY want to bulk up but not at the expense of my athleticism. How will Deca compare to Eq in this department? Will I still be able to compete at the same level? This is my first run with Deca or Eq so I appreciate the feedback on ways to combat this.

If we're just talking about a few lbs it's no big deal. I know dropping the Dbol would ease my concerns however I have a soft spot for "the bfast of champions".
 
Equipoise would be a better choice if you have again, The Correct dosage. Its a replacement for decca, Will give you slow but steady gains and a lean hard look.
 
Will using Eq > DD make enough of a difference on the court to warrant substituting it? I'm kind of in the dark what to expect in terms of endurance and how will suffer with DD or Eq. I already have the Deca/test/dbol so I'm trying to determine if it's worth spending money I really don't have to spend. I'll be keeping my cardio high either way and I LOVE how attractive Deca sounds on my achy joints.
 
deca>eq for joints thats certain. id still run the deca higher if you can
 
Hey everyone,

I made some adjustments. I decided to go

1-14 Test E 600mg
1-12 Deca 400mg
1-6 Dbol 30-40mg
Arimidex, HCG, Clomid, and Nolva

I figured there was no point of going Test-500mg and Deca-250mg so I picked up another bottle of each. How should I dose HCG throughout a cycle of this length and dose?
 
i would opt for higher deca doses over dianabol bro- dbol packed about 20lbs on me but about 7 of it was water

deca on the other hand when ran properly packs slabs of muscle on me

im using npp while on 2500 cals a day (cutting) and im still gaining weight- pure LBM
 
Hearing you say that makes me :) knowing this will be my best run to date. How much are you suggesting? I would then need to increase the test dosage as well correct? What is the best test/deca ratio? What I have what averages out to 414mg per week.
 
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