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snagencyV2.0 said:
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oh laawwd
you can justify any amount of garbage to yourself, if you try hard enough
and going further: all cals are not created equal...just sayin
i'll stick with my approach of always striving to consume the best & healthiest micro-constructed macronutrients that I see fit
to each their own
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I wasn't excusing it, just saying why some people like it. Haha. I agree with you although it's not always possible to do that for me. Sucks.
 
Montego1 said:
Yeah I've went through eleven weeks on MD. Figured I would just move on since this last week I did was seemingly a deload type week.

Taking the weekend off then it's DC time.
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I wouldn't skip the final week.

John knows what he's doing and he does everything for a reason.

The reason he builds up volume then tapers it off is to create super compensation.

I'd stick to the program 100% to get maximal gains, personally.

Also when you say rack chins do you mean inverted pullups aka fat man rows??
 
aceroni said:
I wouldn't skip the final week.

John knows what he's doing and he does everything for a reason.

The reason he builds up volume then tapers it off is to create super compensation.

I'd stick to the program 100% to get maximal gains, personally.

Also when you say rack chins do you mean inverted pullups aka fat man rows??
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Pull ups Using a Smith machine with feet elevated on an incline bench.

I've only got one week left on MD and I'm actually ready for a change honestly. I really enjoyed the program but given where I'm at right now the DC training better suits my needs.
 
DC Training by bodypart

"A" Workouts
Incline Smith Machine (11-15)
Smith Machine Shoulder Press (11-20)
Dips (11-20)
Pullups (11-15)
Rack Pulls (6-9+9-12)

Hammer Strength Chest Press (11-15)
Hammer Strength Shoulder Press (11-15)
Close Grip Bench (11-20)
Lat Pulldowns (11-15)
Bent Over BB/T-Bar rows (6-9+9-12)

Incline Hammer Strength Chest (11-15)
Upright Rows (11-20)
Rev Grip Bench (11-20)
Close Grip Pulldowns (11-15)
Deadlift (6-9+9-12)

"B" Workouts

Barbell Curls (11-20)
Hammer Curls(straight 10-20)
Donkey Calf Raise (10-12)
Lying Leg Curls (15-30)
Squat (6-10+20)

Cable Curls (11-20)
Reverse One Arm Cable Curl (Straight 10-20)
Standing Calf Raise (10-12)
Still Leg Deadlift (15-30)
Leg Press (6-10+20)

DB Curls (11-20)
Reverse Barbell Curl (Straight 10-20)
Leg Press Calf Press (10-12)
Sumo Leg Press (15-25)
Hack Squat (6-10+20)
 
superbeast668 said:
Standard dc is 3x a week. 4x a week is very difficult.
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That was my impression - it's a better program for those who can't lift more than 3x/wk. So do you just hop back & forth between A & B & go down the list I assume?

He's on SD & Mbol, so he might be a 4x/wk kinda guy atm :)
 
Hyde said:
That was my impression - it's a better program for those who can't lift more than 3x/wk. So do you just hop back & forth between A & B & go down the list I assume? He's on SD & Mbol, so he might be a 4x/wk kinda guy atm :)
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Basically Monday, you do upper a. Wed lower a. Fri upper b. Monday lower b. We'd upper c. Etc etc. every week you beat last weeks #s. It's a very solid strength program.

Last run of Dc I did was sd and mecha. I still only did 3x a week. If you TRUELY fail every muscle it's very difficult.
 
I could see that. Old bbuilder at my gym does a LOT of dropsets, & he told me once that if you REALLY crush your first set in the dropset when you drop you shouldn't see tons of reps as soon as you drop a plate off each side - the entire point of the ds is to finish off the muscle, & if you leave a rep or 2 in the tank in anticipation of the drop you're missing the entire point. You have to fail, repeatedly, to get the full effect.

You see it a lot with these showboaters on the legpress. If you do 8 reps then drop a couple plates & can do 16 more reps, vs doing 10 & then doing 6 more reps, who do you think has really stimulated more muscle trauma? The guy going one-hundo & leaving nothing behind.
 
Post training pics.

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I've got dat glow :P
 
I plan on doing three times weekly. But if I know me like I think I know me it will probably be more lol.
 
So today I did an "A" workout......went well but I need to tweak some things. Weights need to be a bit heavier and close grip bench wasnt the best choice. Might swap that to go after upright rows since my front delts were screaming and weight was limited on CGB because of that. Warmups not listed. Static hold on lasat rest pause rep for as long as I could hold it. Form was held perfect until no more reps could be done then weight was racked and rest pause started.

Hammer Strength Chest Press
280 9+5+4 (Too light)

Cybex Shoulder Press (Hammer Strength was occupied....this one has more then advertised resistance.)
190 8+5+3

Close Grip Bench (Delts were taking the majority of the work here since they were so stimulated already and wanted to take over the movement. Tried a bit lighter weight and slower reps to focus on triceps but that didnt seem to help.)
185 8+8+6

Wide Grip Pulldown (Cybex)
285 (All the weight there) 8+4+3

Yates Row (No rest Pause)
315x9
275x11

done................................................tomorrow ill hit the "B" workout then start the Monday Wednesday Friday schedule. Im probably going to incorportae a day of weak point training in every week to make sure lagging body parts are keeping up.
 
Nice workout Monte! Looking thick as hell too!
 
yeah when you first start up DC, and especially when you train solo, it takes a time or two thru the rotation to get comfortable and used to what weights/exercises you wish to do .. when you dial it in tho, I think you will enjoy the challenge
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yeah when you first start up DC, and especially when you train solo, it takes a time or two thru the rotation to get comfortable and used to what weights/exercises you wish to do .. when you dial it in tho, I think you will enjoy the challenge
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Yeah it will take a bit to settle in. Training solo is also why I have so many machines incorporated. They work well at targeting the muscle intended though.
 
I will have to read up on DC. Very interested to see how it works for you Montana. Seems like a very heavy load but far less workouts ?
 
wasme said:
I will have to read up on DC. Very interested to see how it works for you Montana. Seems like a very heavy load but far less workouts ?
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Less overall volume. Hitting body parts twice a week but it's only one exercise per body part taken beyond failure basically.

Seems like to make this work you have to have absolute monster intensity on the working sets. Got that covered...
 
Montego1 said:
Seems like to make this work you have to have absolute monster intensity on the working sets.
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that of course, and don't forget the static intense stretching
when you take a movement beyond absolute failure, it takes time to recover from that effort..
hence, the lowered volume and overall frequency
 
Montego1 said:
Less overall volume. Hitting body parts twice a week but it's only one exercise per body part taken beyond failure basically.

Seems like to make this work you have to have absolute monster intensity on the working sets. Got that covered...
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Seems to me your biggest issue will be actually taking the days off you are supposed to.
 
I'm on a megadeth kick these days..
smashed legs to some tunes from youthanasia



good session...countdown draws nearer to Phase II
muahuahuhaaaaaa
 
B day

Ez preacher curl
140 7+4+3

One arm reverse cable curl
50x17x16

Standing calf raise (60lb db's)
8+5+3

Sldl
245 15+7+3

Leg presses
815x8 545x21

Still trying to figure some stuff out...sldl....not a good choice. Probably gonna swap that with seated leg curls. Subbed cable curls for preacher today
 
dinner tonight

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6oz 96% lean beef + 5oz tuna
(actually went with some ketchup to join that mustard for a change)
8oz sweet potato
yes guys - that is CASHEW BUTTER (1 TBS) you see there on the taters, omg this stuff is bomb
obligatory romaine salad sans croutons this time

I'm ready for a cigar :bandit:
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
dinner tonight 6oz 96% lean beef + 5oz tuna (actually went with some ketchup to join that mustard for a change) 8oz sweet potato yes guys - that is CASHEW BUTTER (1 TBS) you see there on the taters, omg this stuff is bomb obligatory romaine salad sans croutons this time I'm ready for a cigar :bandit:
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I tried the almond butter mixed in with the sweet potato tonight. Totally different than I had expected. Very good.
 
That looks really good. I'll have to give almond butter a try too.

I like the ketchup/mustard combo. Was really good on fries when I was a fatty.

What's in the can?

P.S. Go Braves, if that is a Braves "A".
 
superbeast668 said:
I tried the almond butter mixed in with the sweet potato tonight. Totally different than I had expected. Very good.
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awesome man, glad to hear you likey :)

Montego1 said:
Not sore....... :(
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you won't be sore, like when you do bunch of hi-volume
it is a different type of training...and this is part of the reason ppl quit doing it, because they think they have to be sore after workout to have done anything worthwhile..this is just not the case

RegisterJr said:
That looks really good. I'll have to give almond butter a try too.

I like the ketchup/mustard combo. Was really good on fries when I was a fatty.

What's in the can?

P.S. Go Braves, if that is a Braves "A".
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yeah I don't often use ketchup ... but when I do, I use Heinz :D

yessir, that is a braves hologram cup, got 4 of them
go bravos! :hammer:
 
Montego1 said:
B day

Ez preacher curl
140 7+4+3

One arm reverse cable curl
50x17x16

Standing calf raise (60lb db's)
8+5+3

Sldl
245 15+7+3

Leg presses
815x8 545x21

Still trying to figure some stuff out...sldl....not a good choice. Probably gonna swap that with seated leg curls. Subbed cable curls for preacher today
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Nice work and yeah I think SLDL would fall into the category of the Dead lift or bent over row. if you do them do straight sets of 9-12 reps
snagencyV2.0 said:
awesome man, glad to hear you likey :)

you won't be sore, like when you do bunch of hi-volume
it is a different type of training...and this is part of the reason ppl quit doing it, because they think they have to be sore after workout to have done anything worthwhile..this is just not the case

yeah I don't often use ketchup ... but when I do, I use Heinz :D

yessir, that is a braves hologram cup, got 4 of them
go bravos! :hammer:
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Agreed soreness is not a major factor with DC training. Reps / volume are not really high enough to get a lot of lactic acid built up. On top of that the SD is probably going to be able to keep you from getting too sore.

Ha on the Heinz comment, although you know they are selling Whataburger Ketchup now? That stuff is the bomb. I haven't tried the spicy one but they also sell a spicy one.
 
I know your don't need to get sore to have s good workout. But I had guessed the heavy weights would have shocked some soreness anyways.
 
Montego1 said:
I know your don't need to get sore to have s good workout. But I had guessed the heavy weights would have shocked some soreness anyways.
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Maybe for your average man but you are far from average!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Maybe for your average man but you are far from average!
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Lol why thank you. I'm trying to keep an open mind on this. Six weeks of heavy work should be a good time frame to shock the system.

I am however, ready at a moment's notice to drop the program if I feel I'm not making the most out of it. Tbh I was a bit nervous even using this training system at this point in the game, since I have no idea how I will react to it and this is no time to be fuking around.

Other then that no real big talking points at the moment......just keeping the nose to the proverbial grindstone.
 
Montego1 said:
I know your don't need to get sore to have s good workout. But I had guessed the heavy weights would have shocked some soreness anyways.
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You also mentioned yesterday that you were getting a feel for it, and that some of the weight wasn't enough. Perhaps that is all it is.
 
Stay with it, Monty. You're already in it, & that glutamine is gonna be begging you to grow either way, so don't sweat it. Just do work when you hit the gym, just like always. But especially on the monster sets.
 
what a wonderful morning...awoke to some fan mail, a d00d named Cletus vandamm (or CalfMan as his user name here)..
guy got all wack on me yesterday, ended up getting banned cuz he threatened my life (LOLOLOL)
so I log-in to my company acct this morning, and this character has sent me more of the same via e-mail, giving me 3 days to talk to my "admin buddy" as he puts it, and get him reinstated to the forum, OR ELSE.........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

thought I would share
I thought the days of such goofiness were long gone, haven't dealt with anyone quite so pyscho in awhile...



dinner last night, dint have time to post it:

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love me some onions & sweet peppers on my turkey burger
inserted a small treat in this meal, some zesty salsa wheat thins (1 serving/15 crackers)

breakfast this morning was steel-cut oats in almond milk, grapefruit, ham and roast beef
dig it, diet maneuvers are really settling in these days....
 
Damn....and I thought my troll account airplane get banned.....
 
Was the argument at least entertaining?
 
RegisterJr said:
Was the argument at least entertaining?
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that's just it - there was no argument
freakin wack job just took exception to one thing I posted, and immediately started pulling an e-tough guy routine thru his neg (he had a whopping 8 rep pts LOL....so I negged him back and he was seeing deep red), and then he went PM(s) on me ... by the second PM, he was telling me he would castrate my grandsons....
I dunno man, never ceases to amaze me, some ppl in this world
I mean: the forum and these rep points are THE most important things in life, right?

:think:
 
Monte, I have no question that you will do well from the DC training. It may not feel as crazy as all the volume you are used to but it is definitely effective! The first workouts aren't when everything gets you anyway. The second workout when you are looking at last weeks numbers and mentally get ready to claw your way to better numbers this week regardless. That is when the intensity comes out and takes over. Then you may not get sore but you will know from the intensity that you put into it that the workout had to be effective plus the steady progression with weights or reps lets you know it is working.
 
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