This, I’m running caber 2 days a week. With my MkTest wouldn’t help with prolactin issues. Something like LDopa might be all that’s needed, or else cabergoline or similar.
This, I’m running caber 2 days a week. With my MkTest wouldn’t help with prolactin issues. Something like LDopa might be all that’s needed, or else cabergoline or similar.
I had a huge lump under my nipple, took me about 3 months in ralox to shrink it down and it's never gone away. Since them I've only used MA mk677, and never had issue again. I don't think it's related to prolactin because I never got another gyno flare upAgain, it raises prolactin.
And what were your symptoms?
I had a huge lump under my nipple, took me about 3 months in ralox to shrink it down and it's never gone away. Since them I've only used MA mk677, and never had issue again. I don't think it's related to prolactin because I never got another gyno flare upAgain, it raises prolactin.
And what were your symptoms?
We take SERMs for the same reason right? To keep prolactin down? Just trying to have an understanding.Test wouldn’t help with prolactin issues. Something like LDopa might be all that’s needed, or else cabergoline or similar.
No. SERM’s bind to estrogen receptors in either bone or breast tissue. Its in the name. Selective estrogen receptor modulator.We take SERMs for the same reason right? To keep prolactin down? Just trying to have an understanding.
Just gonna say that a lump that doesn’t go away with raloxifene for MONTHS, wasn’t estrogen related (it was prolactin) and the raloxifene is not at all what made it go away.I had a huge lump under my nipple, took me about 3 months in ralox to shrink it down and it's never gone away. Since them I've only used MA mk677, and never had issue again. I don't think it's related to prolactin because I never got another gyno flare up
So if I was running MK would you wanna rub caber or something like that with it or only if you began to get gyno, etc?No. SERM’s bind to estrogen receptors in either bone or breast tissue. Its in the name. Selective estrogen receptor modulator.
I wouldnt worry about it unless you got gyno. But i think taking L dopa wouldnt be a bad addition. That and MK make for some fun dreams.So if I was running MK would you wanna rub caber or something like that with it or only if you began to get gyno, etc?
What does that do? And is there PCT involved with something like MK? Just asking to learnI wouldnt worry about it unless you got gyno. But i think taking L dopa wouldnt be a bad addition. That and MK make for some fun dreams.
Just read the very first post....and some more.What does that do? And is there PCT involved with something like MK? Just asking to learn
I did a couple days ago. I was asking what the mechanism of L Dopa is, and asked about PCT, because there were guys talking about gyno, but it seems the consensus is that their MK maybe wasn’t MKJust read the very first post....and some more.
So, you are worried about gyno, caused by upped prolactin when using Ibutamoren?I did a couple days ago. I was asking what the mechanism of L Dopa is, and asked about PCT, because there were guys talking about gyno, but it seems the consensus is that their MK maybe wasn’t MK
I’m not worried about it lol. I’m just on my first ever cycle of anything LGD4033. I’m just trying to suck up as much info as possible in the meantime for future runs.So, you are worried about gyno, caused by upped prolactin when using Ibutamoren?
You shouldn't be.
Unless you are a Dwarf Rat:
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/139/8/3590/2987169
As a human, you shouldn't be worried about upped prolactin when using Ibutamoren:
https://www.smr.jsexmed.org/article/S2050-0521(17)30032-X/pdf
(study says: negligible)
...but if you worried, use L-dopa to lower prolactin :
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B978008017922350160X
How would running test with it manage prolactin? It won't. You could try inhibit p, a dopamine antagonist or vitamin B6.Is there something you can do to manage prolactin? Outside of running T with it
I am aware of your first point. Been lifting a long time and this was my first foray. I grabbed what was legal and easy first. Have no real connect for actual juice.****, its too late to convince you that LGD is as suppressive as real roids -but with lesser gainz. Please tell me you use some sort of a test base.
Even dwarf rats use a test base -or nowadays a serm, like clomid -or torem, to keep HPTA up.
And I have a SERM on deck for PCT but I’m only running 10mg. But no T base. Was told I really don’t need one. Idk if it’s because it’s SARMs or because of the low dose. But I’ve read that quite a few times****, its too late to convince you that LGD is as suppressive as real roids -but with lesser gainz. Please tell me you use some sort of a test base.
Even dwarf rats use a test base -or nowadays a serm, like clomid -or torem, to keep HPTA up.
Easy and available. It's not gonna be easy when you come off cycle without pctI am aware of your first point. Been lifting a long time and this was my first foray. I grabbed what was legal and easy first. Have no real connect for actual juice.
Found one recently, but it’s online ordering. They have “testimonials” sorta speak that makes it seem trustworthy. Once I’m done with these SARMs (such a stupid sounding acronym to me), I’m gonna venture into those greener pastures. Just wish I had a real life connect, or at least knew someone that’s got through the online before.
I have PCT all lined up dude. Nolva 20/20/10/10 and m test, cycle support. 10mg for 8 weeks.Hopefully you bounce back. What's the dose and how long you running it
Ok cool. 10mg is kinda disappointing thoI have PCT all lined up dude. Nolva 20/20/10/10 and m test, cycle support. 10mg for 8 weeks.
That’s what I keep reading. But I wasn’t sure if I should hold off on increasing, I’ve only been on 6 days. What’re your thoughts? Again, this is my first time running anything everOk cool. 10mg is kinda disappointing tho
10/mg a day, on 6 days so far, planned on 8 weeks. Mostly on here I see ppl taking like double the dosage.Depending on dose and how long you are able to fight the lethargy on LGD- and the cycle duration will be. Also dependent on how suppressive it is for you, your PCT may be insufficient.
Whats your LGD dosage? How long are you on already? How long had you planned?
You really think I won’t get anything out of 10, huh?I would just go ahead and raise the dosage to 20 or 25 mg.
No.You really think I won’t get anything out of 10, huh?
You will get a little out of it but I think messing with your hormones for minor results is foolish. I know a few females that use 5 to 10mg with good results. Not many guys tho. And the ones that claim they did I think we're either getting it spiked with prohormones or maybe hyper responsive if that's even a real thingYou really think I won’t get anything out of 10, huh?
You can stack it with everything -or use it alone. Just don't expect too much. It shines stacked with a roid, it sparkles with a roid and insulin.In regards to MK677 and its use with other supplements, we hear all the time about it being stacked with other Sarms.....can it be stacked with other PH's and the Andro's??
Ok thats great that its interoperable with PH's/Andro's. Might have to try with 1/4 Andro thats opened in my cuboard.You can stack it with everything -or use it alone. Just don't expect too much. It shines stacked with a roid, it sparkles with a roid and insulin.
Lol....yeah i wont be doing that..... well, please don't run to a pharmacy to get insulin now...
1 it's not a sarm. 2 it can be used with pretty much anythingIn regards to MK677 and its use with other supplements, we hear all the time about it being stacked with other Sarms.....can it be stacked with other PH's and the Andro's??
Apologies yeah i know its a GH secretagogue. Hopefully itll work nicely alongside the 1/4 andro stack especially for the recovery, joint side of things as i approach my mid 40's. I also chose the andros over Hdrol for less sides (hopefully). My M1-T days are long behind me.1 it's not a sarm. 2 it can be used with pretty much anything
I here more stories about sides with 1 andro then I do hdrol. Luckily for me pretty much nothing ever gave me sidesApologies yeah i know its a GH secretagogue. Hopefully itll work nicely alongside the 1/4 andro stack especially for the recovery, joint side of things as i approach my mid 40's. I also chose the andros over Hdrol for less sides (hopefully). My M1-T days are long behind me.
Really?? Damn. What sort of sides? I actually have 2 x bottles of Hdrol but chose 1/4 Andro as they are non methylated and supposedly safer on lipids/prostrate/ BP etc??I here more stories about sides with 1 andro then I do hdrol. Luckily for me pretty much nothing ever gave me sides
Funny....i have just had a look at a few peoples experiences with the Andros and your right they do adversely effect BP/Lipids and worse still 1-Andro trashes your cardio fitness which is not good for me as need to keep on top of that. Halodrol apparently increases stamina and the adverse impacts on the body dont look worse than the andros.Everyone's different, I would say hdrol has double the strength and size gains on a 6 week cycle.
If you go those 1-andro route, have enough for 8 weeks at 330 mg or more
I could be wrong but i thought the studies suggested the difference between 20mg and 75mg didnt suggest 3 x increase/benefits and the suggested dose of 25mg is effective.Anyone gone higher then 25mg ? I heard the igf-1 is greatly increased from going great higher. Was debating taking a dose every morning as well as my 25 at night
I know I read somewhere that’s 25mg was the optimal dose for GH but IGF-1 levels were increased greatly going over 25mg but I don’t know if there was any truth to it.I could be wrong but i thought the studies suggested the difference between 20mg and 75mg didnt suggest 3 x increase/benefits and the suggested dose of 25mg is effective.
From everyone I know and myself I just get hungrier and hungrier the higher i dose it. 25mg 5 days on 2 off is what I ended up staying at after several different dosesYea i
I know I read somewhere that’s 25mg was the optimal dose for GH but IGF-1 levels were increased greatly going over 25mg but I don’t know if there was any truth to it.
Yeah I heard 5 on 2 off is popular and the way to go. I'll give it a go.From everyone I know and myself I just get hungrier and hungrier the higher i dose it. 25mg 5 days on 2 off is what I ended up staying at after several different doses
From everyone I know and myself I just get hungrier and hungrier the higher i dose it. 25mg 5 days on 2 off is what I ended up staying at after several different doses
For hunger, weed is cheaper then mk.Hmm I might take advantage of more hunger. Might try one additional dose just to see. I’m not doing the 2 days off but I am taking 6 caps of SNS huperzine A 99% a day
For hunger, weed is cheaper then mk.
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