MK-677

Vict said:
Just did blood tests, testosterone is low, looks like the doctor is going to prescribe testosterone 1 shot every 3 weeks
is it fine to continue to take mk 677 with those shots ? and gonna be adding ostarine 12.5 mg a day also, is it ok too?
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Mind if i ask why test is low? Have you used AAS and not ran a PCT? If so maybe there is time to recover before you go down the lifelong HRT road....(or maybe not, but still worth asking)

Bare in mind osterine will likely cause some estrogen increases, trt may also already cause that issue depending on dose and your aromatase levels.
Also a SARM will compete for androgen receptors vs testosterone (to what extent this could be an issue would depend on dosage and would need research to test - this assuming that saturation and androgen receptor competition theory is accurate and reliable - it's still being debated as to how androgen receptor down regulation/desensitisation works). You also may need to consider SHBG issues when running trt alongside other androgens....

People who say "Yeah you can run it with trt" might not be wrong, but what they should really say given my above points is: "Yeah you can, but it might cause some problems..."

You should really do some heavy research and speak to some other people who have ran SARMs alongside test (and had bloods done) to see what impact it is having.
But then again, people who run cycles and then take break periods from androgens all together are not the same circumstances as somebody who runs longterm and continual exogenous testosterone.
 
Also bump on my earlier question about MK677 and insulin resistance:

What causes this, why, and to what extent does it typically cause this? Anybody know?
 
AK1 said:
SNS reduce will supress cortisol whilst mk raises gh and igf1 - both will support muscle retention/muscle growth depending on diet/training. Im not advocating their use, just explaining what they are intended to do.

id research first if i were you before deciding using any research drug or otherwise...
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Thank you, yesterday was day one on both. Didn't feel anything, I usually never remember my dreams, but this time I did. I'm not feeling a huge appetite at all, and no numbness. But ofcourse it's just day 2.
 
M.I.D said:
It gave me horrible dreams, I lost my brother in 2014 and I was taking this in 2015 and every dream had him in it and it was so real and I literally woke up very upset and quite bothered by them.

Only bad side really
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sorry to hear about ur brother man.
and yeah the dreams just aggressive and real that's why I don't like it.
it would be awesome if u r having a real Porno dream or something not some scary sh!t.
 
hamdysayed said:
sorry to hear about ur brother man.
and yeah the dreams just aggressive and real that's why I don't like it.
it would be awesome if u r having a real Porno dream or something not some scary sh!t.
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tbf I've had a few nice dreams and I still woke up disappointed because I wasn't screwing the bird in my dream haha
 
Mk-677. So awesome. Such an awesome price at nutraplanet right now


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3 weeks at 20mg right before bed : Great sleep, more dreams, i feel rested with less hours of sleep.
Bad sides : Hungry as hell ! It's getting really hard to keep on my low carb diet for this summer, i hope it goes away later on the cycle ...
Water retention is hitting hard as well, i almost look like a pregnant wowen everytime i drink water lol I hope it goes away as well.
Bloating, especially after my meals.
 
Started MK677 at 12.5mg before bed and slept well, but woke with a pretty bad headache. Looked for logs, threads about this, but found hardly anything. Is this something you have heard people experience and do you know why (possibly adding to the AM Cortisol spike)? Is it usually short term?
 
bigsmall said:
Started MK677 at 12.5mg before bed and slept well, but woke with a pretty bad headache. Looked for logs, threads about this, but found hardly anything. Is this something you have heard people experience and do you know why (possibly adding to the AM Cortisol spike)? Is it usually short term?
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I never experienced any headached... I would make sure to be drinking enough water and try again tonight.
 
I run mk-677 for about 3 weeks, nothing happened on first week except lethargy, then from week 2 I noticed improvement on my skin and much higher recovery rate, manage to train MMA and weights and still profit from it yet I felt something wrong happening in my joints and tendons, in fact I suffered an injury on my feet.

Not sure if it was because of the mk677 or the stress on my body however the previous mk-677 cycle last summer gave me the same feeling especially in my forearms and hands.

Regarding the dreams, almost everynight I was trying to defuse bombs in building only to have them explode and wake me up in early morning, one way or an other something bad was going no happen, no matter how great the dream started.

Was taking it on empty stomach before sleeping.
 
has anyone experienced muscle cramps while taking mk677?
mostly in legs(quads), while standing or when bending the leg, and sometimes arm fingers.
 
Just an FYI on my ever continuing self experimentation with stuff - I stopped taking 100mcg of Huperzine-A along with my 30mg MK-677 right before bed, and am not waking up as much throughout the night. I get up once for my "old man piss", but zonk right back to sleep and am sleeping 'til the wife's alarm goes off.

When I was taking the Hup-A, I would wake up more, be alert, and take longer falling back asleep. Now I limit my Hup-A to 50mcg with my PrWO resistance training - which for me is EOD.
 
Has anyone used Hardcore Formulations brand? I bought some off ebay because it was so cheap, but i'm wondering if its bunk. Only on day 2, but just started worrying that maybe I was wasting my time with this
 
jp888 said:
Has anyone used Hardcore Formulations brand? I bought some off ebay because it was so cheap, but i'm wondering if its bunk. Only on day 2, but just started worrying that maybe I was wasting my time with this
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You got it now, give it a try and let the rest of us know....The sides should tell the story.
 
Ben using 10mg every night before bed for 2 months now. Bumped it up to 20 for a few days but could not handle the hunger from it way way too much (trying to cut) so I am back down to 10 mg And I love it
 
jp888 said:
Has anyone used Hardcore Formulations brand? I bought some off ebay because it was so cheap, but i'm wondering if its bunk. Only on day 2, but just started worrying that maybe I was wasting my time with this
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I bought it as well....its working very well even at 12.5mg after about 2.5 weeks. However, it is my first MK run...so I have no other product to compare too. btw, count your caps, they packed more in the bottle than the label indicated...
 
Newbie here. Just wondering on the sides to benefit ratio on a 20 mg run. Also, how long dies it take for the bloating to dissipate.
Thanks
 
Tank999 said:
Newbie here. Just wondering on the sides to benefit ratio on a 20 mg run. Also, how long dies it take for the bloating to dissipate.
Thanks
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All individual it seems, some of us get no sides at low doses, and only a slight hunger increase over 25mg. You'll just have to try it out.
 
Regarding lethargy has anyone tried dosing in the evening i mean 5-6 hours before bed? Just wondering if pre bed is to early, maybe with 8 hours sleep + 6 hours before sleep would mean possible walking up a bit fresher and awake for the day?
 
SBIK said:
Regarding lethargy has anyone tried dosing in the evening i mean 5-6 hours before bed? Just wondering if pre bed is to early, maybe with 8 hours sleep + 6 hours before sleep would mean possible walking up a bit fresher and awake for the day?
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Give it a try and see if it works for you.
For me it doesn't make a difference when I dose; I don't feel any different in the morning, evening, or during the day.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Give it a try and see if it works for you.
For me it doesn't make a difference when I dose; I don't feel any different in the morning, evening, or during the day.
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So many different reactions to MK in this thread, Read all your posts man and it seems to be going well for you. I havent tried it yet and I have 2 OL bottles that I have had for months. My job requires me to be on my feet for 12 hours and shifts are all over the place, Im scared to try incase it messes with my sleep and makes me lethargic, its hard enough without that happening.
 
SBIK said:
So many different reactions to MK in this thread, Read all your posts man and it seems to be going well for you. I havent tried it yet and I have 2 OL bottles that I have had for months. My job requires me to be on my feet for 12 hours and shifts are all over the place, Im scared to try incase it messes with my sleep and makes me lethargic, its hard enough without that happening.
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When I first started taking MK-677 over 6 months ago, I had about 2 weeks of lethargy but then it passed and it's been smooth sailing ever since. Some people don't even get lethargy at all.
This is one of those things where you'll just have to try it out and see how your body responds to it specifically. Maybe hold off until you have some time off from work or something where if you DO get lethargic, it won't affect your livelihood too severely.
 
BamBam0319 said:
When I first started taking MK-677 over 6 months ago, I had about 2 weeks of lethargy but then it passed and it's been smooth sailing ever since. Some people don't even get lethargy at all.
This is one of those things where you'll just have to try it out and see how your body responds to it specifically. Maybe hold off until you have some time off from work or something where if you DO get lethargic, it won't affect your livelihood too severely.
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Id just start taking it and have stimulants handy for the first few days. 10mg is plenty to begin with.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Id just start taking it and have stimulants handy for the first few days. 10mg is plenty to begin with.
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Without a doubt. I recently dropped back down to 10mg, ran it as high as 30mg consistently. Not much more benefits for me and it's easier on the spending money if I keep the dose as low as effectively possible.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Without a doubt. I recently dropped back down to 10mg, ran it as high as 30mg consistently. Not much more benefits for me and it's easier on the spending money if I keep the dose as low as effectively possible.
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10mg to cruise on, 20mg during PCT. Heard it here first.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Pretty much what I did, but tried 30mg for about 3 weeks in there too.
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Tried 50mg/ed für a week (as a test). Was way too much. Also got tired during the day, could sleep everywhere. The hunger increased, in the first night I woke up at 3 a.m. - because of the hunger (no joke). Took 650kcal and went back to sleep.
Won't retake that experiment.
 
sanmarino said:
Tried 50mg/ed für a week (as a test). Was way too much. Also got tired during the day, could sleep everywhere. The hunger increased, in the first night I woke up at 3 a.m. - because of the hunger (no joke). Took 650kcal and went back to sleep.
Won't retake that experiment.
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That is a Mega Dose !!
 
It is. And there was no real added benefit compared to 25mg/ed. Just for your information. But you can also try it :D
Just beware from the sleepiness during the day.
 
sanmarino said:
It is. And there was no real added benefit compared to 25mg/ed. Just for your information. But you can also try it :D
Just beware from the sleepiness during the day.
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No Thank you...I'm Good!
 
The lethargy I get from MK-677 is so horrible and I wake up so lethargic that its not even worth it for me.
 
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