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Mixing Prime with Diesel and Sunami

ABNRanger

ABNRanger

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I am currently taking Prime (whoooo), but want to start taking Diesel Hardcore, and Sunami. Is that ok? I know I can take Diesel Hardcore, and Sunami together, just wanted to make sure if mixing with Prime is ok.
 
just wondering, hows the prime going.

it would probably be OK i think, i think prime would just add to the effects of diesel test hardcore and sunami

that is is if prime is working?(whoooo?)
 
Diesel test hardcore and sunami are a serious deal on their own. I suppose anything else u add, will help, but I have no clue what prime is.
 
It's tough to determine what would not be ok to stack with Prime considering we don't know the MOA. I don't think you'd have a problem with that stack, regardless.
 
ari4216 said:
just wondering, hows the prime going.
it would probably be OK i think, i think prime would just add to the effects of diesel test hardcore and sunami

that is is if prime is working?(whoooo?)
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I started taking prime 5 days ago, and I have to say, I can tell the difference in my workouts, as well as after. Today is sunday, and my last workout was friday (tri/bi), and I still feel pumped and hard (get your minds out the gutter). I meant my biceps and triceps :toofunny:. I messed up one day last week (day two) and took my second dosage too soon and without a meal (I meant take my rpm, took the prime instead). In the gym I felt a sort of acidic taste and burning in my throat. I did not know what caused it until after the gym when I was about to my last dose of prime (my rpm was still in my pill case) that is when I realized I had already taken the prime. I had been using rpm as my pre workout supp (love it as well), it gives me focus and a nice aggression for my workouts. The addition of prime enhanced that aggressing and strength. I did not feel the continued pump and hardness until taking prime. All in all, I am loving Prime so far.
 
Mix sunami with prime and leave the diesel test out, untill you completely run out of prime.

Please post your experience with the prime/sunami stack and leave feedback behind about libido enhancement.


Thanks
 
DTH and Sunami make a great stack that boosts your hormones. PRIME has been shown to not influence hormones, so stacking them together would be hitting it from 2 separate angles. This will be pricey, but it should give some nice results.

On a cautionary note, I'd advise you to do a few weeks of Prime solo to see if it is working for you, then add in the DTH/Sunami.
 
Imeniaan said:
Mix sunami with prime and leave the diesel test out, untill you completely run out of prime.

Please post your experience with the prime/sunami stack and leave feedback behind about libido enhancement.


Thanks
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Thats what I would do.....although no one has posted what exactly is in prime....or DTH/Sumami. If you ask a quest. on stacking products, its always good to post the sup. facts of the products ur talking about.
 
Steveoph said:
DTH and Sunami make a great stack that boosts your hormones. PRIME has been shown to not influence hormones, so stacking them together would be hitting it from 2 separate angles. This will be pricey, but it should give some nice results.

On a cautionary note, I'd advise you to do a few weeks of Prime solo to see if it is working for you, then add in the DTH/Sunami.
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Has it been proven to not influence hormones?? Myself for one, it gave me some nasty cystic acne which only happens when I'm on supplements which in some way influence hormones. Could you point me to something that shows its non-hormonal?? What the box says vs. what it is could be totally different.
 
joebo said:
Has it been proven to not influence hormones?? Myself for one, it gave me some nasty cystic acne which only happens when I'm on supplements which in some way influence hormones. Could you point me to something that shows its non-hormonal?? What the box says vs. what it is could be totally different.
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Damnit it took me almost 15 minutes to find this, but here it is. Invalid Link Removed

USPLabs said:
Could be producing an androgen effect outside of increasing testosterone...androgens like d-bol and anadrol cause androgenic side effects...

We did a total of 13 blood draws and none showed an increase in testosterone.
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I would get after all three together! Prime did same for me as it is doing for you and The DTH and Sunami will just add to the fun!
 
Prime seems to be a tribulus/appetite stim. product. There is no reason to spend $54 on it and then stack it with DTH. I would run DTH/Sunami or Sunami/Prime.

You actually can stack DT2010 and Sunami for less than the cost of Prime, so Im guessing its some "super" extract of Tribulus.

I dont know how prime works personally but it only has 2 ingredients, tribulus and an appetite stim. So based on those 2 ingredients is what I am making my rec. on.

Thats funny because if DTH was $54/bottle everyone would be saying its "expensive."
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Prime seems to be a tribulus/appetite stim. product. There is no reason to spend $54 on it and then stack it with DTH. I would run DTH/Sunami or Sunami/Prime.

You actually can stack DT2010 and Sunami for less than the cost of Prime, so Im guessing its some "super" extract of Tribulus.

I dont know how prime works personally but it only has 2 ingredients, tribulus and an appetite stim. So based on those 2 ingredients is what I am making my rec. on.

Thats funny because if DTH was $54/bottle everyone would be saying its "expensive."
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Different species of tribulus.

Would be like saying cholesterol is like testosterone...
 
USPLabs said:
Different species of tribulus.

Would be like saying cholesterol is like testosterone...
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yeah, still tribulus.

No it wouldnt be, cholesterol and test. have diff. structures, all tribulus plants produce the same actives, just in different amounts and the amounts vary at time of harvest and coutry of origin.

Would be like saying cholesterol from a hamburger is is the same as cholesterol from a steak.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
yeah, still tribulus.

No it wouldnt be, cholesterol and test. have diff. structures, all tribulus plants produce the same actives, just in different amounts and the amounts vary at time of harvest and coutry of origin.

Would be like saying cholesterol from a hamburger is is the same as cholesterol from a steak.
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all tribulus plants produce the same actives is a blanket statement spoken without fact, but this could be a possibility but the amount of actives vary. For example, Some tribulus T from India has high concentrations of tribulosin, but the Tribulus terristris from China contains only trace amounts of tribulosin....Fact.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Prime seems to be a tribulus/appetite stim. product. There is no reason to spend $54 on it and then stack it with DTH. I would run DTH/Sunami or Sunami/Prime.

You actually can stack DT2010 and Sunami for less than the cost of Prime, so Im guessing its some "super" extract of Tribulus.

I dont know how prime works personally but it only has 2 ingredients, tribulus and an appetite stim. So based on those 2 ingredients is what I am making my rec. on.

Thats funny because if DTH was $54/bottle everyone would be saying its "expensive."
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People are stating that Prime is too expensive for what it is...........I havent used it, yet. So honestly dont know. Price is and will always be a factor, though.

So far most reviews are good, there are few bad reviews but they are picked apart by USPlabs reps or USPlabs proponents. Like bees to honey, they swarm up on that.

I personally would stack prime with pfull and/or AP.....NOT diesel products........thats just me though.

3 kings stack to start at the end of this month...........cant wait.
 
Kristofer68SS said:
So far most reviews are good, there are few bad reviews but they are picked apart by USPlabs reps or USPlabs proponents. Like bees to honey, they swarm up on that.
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Not attacking just protecting our supplement. I fully understand that some consumers will not respond.

Poopy says it best in this PRIME Poll thread..

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let the debate continue

this discussion is interesting

it would seem to me that diesel test hardcore is a better value
of course prime contains novel unique compounds, but for the price to effectivness ratio, diesel test offers so much more

i personally have not tried either at this moment, but im looking foward to trying diesel test soon. id would try prime if it wasnt so expensive, but i do realize accoring to usp labs why it is expensive because tribulus aquaticus is expensive.

i think stacking prime and diesel test hardcore would be beneficial, but prime contains 2 expensive ingrediant while diesel test contains many. Prime is purported to have glucocortiod effects, but theres really no evidence of this. except the studies done at usp labs. im not trying to bash usp labs, but to me usp labs come out with products like creatine mono when it first came out. not to many people used it becuase it was so new and expensive. Nevertheless, im not a person to pay a lot of money to jump on the bandwagon fastly. For an analogy id rather take a product that includes creatine, beta alanine, ect...,ect.. than just take creatine. That analogy is not perfect but you can see where im going with this.
COST EFFECTIVENESS.
 
ari4216 said:
let the debate continue

this discussion is interesting

it would seem to me that diesel test hardcore is a better value
of course prime contains novel unique compounds, but for the price to effectivness ratio, diesel test offers so much more

i personally have not tried either at this moment, but im looking foward to trying diesel test soon. id would try prime if it wasnt so expensive, but i do realize accoring to usp labs why it is expensive because tribulus aquaticus is expensive.

i think stacking prime and diesel test hardcore would be beneficial, but prime contains 2 expensive ingrediant while diesel test contains many. Prime is purported to have glucocortiod effects, but theres really no evidence of this. except the studies done at usp labs. im not trying to bash usp labs, but to me usp labs come out with products like creatine mono when it first came out. not to many people used it becuase it was so new and expensive. Nevertheless, im not a person to pay a lot of money to jump on the bandwagon fastly. For an analogy id rather take a product that includes creatine, beta alanine, ect...,ect.. than just take creatine. That analogy is not perfect but you can see where im going with this.
COST EFFECTIVENESS.
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I'm not debating which is a better product. I'm debating the Tribulus is Tribulus pseudo expert statement.

That being said since USPLabs PRIME works differently than DTH (no matter what chuck thinks), USPLabs PRIME will stack with both products mentioned in this thread.

When I buy a product, I'm looking at how good it is and that is not based off it containing 10 different ingredients but based of performance and results.
 
and at the same time when im talking about usp labs and get diesel, i dont favor either companie to any degree. Both of you guys could use improvement in many directions.

There is not one perfect supplement companie.

I do favor get diesel marketing compared to usp labs, which is started to sound a lot like muscletech(usp labs).

I do not favor the way chuck can be a bully sometimes(it must be all the diest test he takes,lol)

I do favor the way usp labs trys to come out with innovative herbals.

I think Get Diesel makes good formulations but i do think they could stand improvement.
 
USPLabs said:
Kristofer68SS said:
So far most reviews are good, there are few bad reviews but they are picked apart by USPlabs reps or USPlabs proponents. Like bees to honey, they swarm up on that.
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Not attacking just protecting our supplement. I fully understand that some consumers will not respond.

Poopy says it best in this PRIME Poll thread..

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You know Im a fan from early days of USPlabs. I have bought all kinds of product from USPlabs. With success i might add. However,

USPlabs has changed in my time around here, alas, so has my demographic of purchasing power.

I call it how i see it.

Also, I never said attack. I stated they get picked apart.......Which they do......

or they are deemed a "non-responder".
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Disclaimer:
Kristofer68SS is a fictitious character in an RPG called Anabolic Minds. All of Kristofer68SS' statements shall be verified by the Dungeon Master before validation.

do you play dungeons and dragons or is that just a joke?
 
ari4216 said:
Disclaimer:
Kristofer68SS is a fictitious character in an RPG called Anabolic Minds. All of Kristofer68SS' statements shall be verified by the Dungeon Master before validation.

do you play dungeons and dragons or is that just a joke?
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I did when i was 10......lol.........
 
Kristofer68SS said:
USPLabs said:
You know Im a fan from early days of USPlabs. I have bought all kinds of product from USPlabs. With success i might add. However,

USPlabs has changed in my time around here, alas, so has my demographic of purchasing power.

I call it how i see it.

Also, I never said attack. I stated they get picked apart.......Which they do......

or they are deemed a "non-responder".
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Deemd "non-responder" is perfectly fine.

Marketing mainstream is not a chaep endeavor, but one thing that has not changed at USPlabs is product innovaiton but more importanlty innovative products that work..
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USPLabs said:
Kristofer68SS said:
Deemd "non-responder" is perfectly fine.

Marketing mainstream is not a chaep endeavor, but one thing that has not changed at USPlabs is product innovaiton but more importanlty innovative products that work..
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Not going to argue that. Diesel AND Usplabs have a sound product line.

So if you were to stack Diesel with Usplabs...........give me your best stack recommendations, jacob......I personally would keep them segregated, but i would like your input.

Btw, I am sitting on some prime. Have an AP in transit and will stack my prime with pfull.............So im not hatin.

Just callin it how i see it.......

lets get this train back on track, in the right direction.
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ari4216 said:
and at the same time when im talking about usp labs and get diesel, i dont favor either companie to any degree. Both of you guys could use improvement in many directions.

There is not one perfect supplement companie.

I do favor get diesel marketing compared to usp labs, which is started to sound a lot like muscletech(usp labs).

I do not favor the way chuck can be a bully sometimes(it must be all the diest test he takes,lol)

I do favor the way usp labs trys to come out with innovative herbals.

I think Get Diesel makes good formulations but i do think they could stand improvement.
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have u seen his new line up?? almost every product is more powerfull now
 
alwaysgaining said:
have u seen his new line up?? almost every product is mor powerfull now
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yeah new i agree the new lineup is more powerful now but i definately dont think its perfect. Theres not one supp i think is perfect. Thats the name of the game, you got to keep improving your products.
 
Kristofer68SS said:
USPLabs said:
Not going to argue that. Diesel AND Usplabs have a sound product line.

So if you were to stack Diesel with Usplabs...........give me your best stack recommendations, jacob......I personally would keep them segregated, but i would like your input.

Btw, I am sitting on some prime. Have an AP in transit and will stack my prime with pfull.............So im not hatin.

Just callin it how i see it.......

lets get this train back on track, in the right direction.
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We appreciate the honest feedback.
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Chuck Diesel said:
Prime seems to be a tribulus/appetite stim. product. There is no reason to spend $54 on it and then stack it with DTH. I would run DTH/Sunami or Sunami/Prime.

You actually can stack DT2010 and Sunami for less than the cost of Prime, so Im guessing its some "super" extract of Tribulus.

I dont know how prime works personally but it only has 2 ingredients, tribulus and an appetite stim. So based on those 2 ingredients is what I am making my rec. on.

Thats funny because if DTH was $54/bottle everyone would be saying its "expensive."
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BINGO............. There are MUCH more effective products to spend 54 dollars on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
USPLabs said:
I'm not debating which is a better product. I'm debating the Tribulus is Tribulus pseudo expert statement.

That being said since USPLabs PRIME works differently than DTH (no matter what chuck thinks), USPLabs PRIME will stack with both products mentioned in this thread.

When I buy a product, I'm looking at how good it is and that is not based off it containing 10 different ingredients but based of performance and results.
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Try reading ANY Diesel Test Hardcore log......thank-you, have a nice day.
 
I appreciate all you guys' input and comments. Honestly did not mean to cite a major debate. But, when smart minds come together, can't expect nothing but insightful conversation/dialog. I just posted a thread on how prime is working for me
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USPLabs said:
WTF....Where did I state it was a bad product?

You guys sometimes...
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Hey I was just saying what Tribulus is and how it varies in active potency. I didnt say PRIME was a bad product or anything like that, Ive never used it. Now I have to go back and read what Trip said. This isn’t supposed to be a PRIME versus DIESEL TEST Hardcore thread.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Hey I was just saying what Tribulus is and how it varies in active potency. I didnt say PRIME was a bad product or anything like that, Ive never used it. Now I have to go back and read what Trip said. This isn’t supposed to be a PRIME versus DIESEL TEST Hardcore thread.
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Agreed! I have personally used DTH and found several positive effects: Increased positive aggression, anecdotally higher nitrogen retention (experiencing higher recovery rates), increased torque production (from the Dopaminergic action) and so on; likewise, I am using PRIME at the moment, and am experiencing fantastic results in terms of incremental increases in total weight and volume, as well as incredible increases in endurance.

Comments as to what $54 could be better spent on are somewhat lost when actual experience with both products is not present!
 
USPLabs said:
all tribulus plants produce the same actives is a blanket statement spoken without fact, but this could be a possibility but the amount of actives vary. For example, Some tribulus T from India has high concentrations of tribulosin, but the Tribulus terristris from China contains only trace amounts of tribulosin....Fact.
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Thats what I said, read what I wrote. I know EVERYTHING there is to know about tribulus. I know which regions produce what actives, I know what part of the plant produce which actives, I know tribulus. Calling it Tribulus Aquaticus when its still Tribulus. But honestly for me, I know USP are the new kings of hype and off the wall write ups so I expect you guys to promote this as "Super Tribulus." But I know its a money game and you have to get people to try your products and blablabla, so bottom line it all boils down to if the product works or not because if it doesnt, the write up cant save reviews (like the Anabolic pump reviews at NP).

Bottom line someone asked about stacking PRIME with DT and looking at PRIME ingredients, I would stack it with Sunami, not DTH. It would be a waste of money to stack it with DTH, well I guess you can stack it with DTH if PRIME does provide any increase in Test levels, its going to come with a higher increase in estrogen as with all tribulus only products so I guess u can stack PRIME with DTH to help with any cortisol, and estrogen increases.

Im just trying to get that guy best bang for the buck.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Thats what I said, read what I wrote. I know EVERYTHING there is to know about tribulus. I know which regions produce what actives, I know what part of the plant produce which actives, I know tribulus. Calling it Tribulus Aquaticus when its still Tribulus. But honestly for me, I know USP are the new kings of hype and off the wall write ups so I expect you guys to promote this as "Super Tribulus." But I know its a money game and you have to get people to try your products and blablabla, so bottom line it all boils down to if the product works or not because if it doesnt, the write up cant save reviews (like the Anabolic pump reviews at NP).

Bottom line someone asked about stacking PRIME with DT and looking at PRIME ingredients, I would stack it with Sunami, not DTH. It would be a waste of money to stack it with DTH, well I guess you can stack it with DTH if PRIME does provide any increase in Test levels, its going to come with a higher increase in estrogen as with all tribulus only products so I guess u can stack PRIME with DTH to help with any cortisol, and estrogen increases.

Im just trying to get that guy best bang for the buck.
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Tell me about Tribulosin Chuck.....

You absolutely are clueless about tribulus A even as a self prescribed expert.

Since you are a firm believer in logs just read the unbiased feedback...
 
if supplements gotta be debated, in my eyes, they fail. but i'd still like to try that bulk p-slin, though some people do say it didn't work for them as well.
 
USPLabs said:
Tell me about Tribulosin Chuck.....

You absolutely are clueless about tribulus A even as a self prescribed expert.

Since you are a firm believer in logs just read the unbiased feedback...
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My brother said it kills worms (Tribulosin), anyway who cares. What I was saying is all tribulus actives are found in all forms of tribulus.

I have studied every active in Tribulus, peroid. Anyway there is no big deal about what active this product is standardized for, I was giving my rec. on what to stack it with made by GET DIESEL.

BTW, How you gonna tell me Im clueless about something? Or is that just an angry comment because I think (from a consumer standpoint) that the USP labs marketing is BS? Its no big deal, I didnt really say the products are garbage.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
My brother said it kills worms (Tribulosin), anyway who cares. What I was saying is all tribulus actives are found in all forms of tribulus.

I have studied every active in Tribulus, peroid. Anyway there is no big deal about what active this product is standardized for, I was giving my rec. on what to stack it with made by GET DIESEL.

BTW, How you gonna tell me Im clueless about something? Or is that just an angry comment because I think (from a consumer standpoint) that the USP labs marketing is BS? Its no big deal, I didnt really say the products are garbage.
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yeah usp labs marketing is bs
 
Derailed, Damnt:)

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Personally i would stack diesel with diesel and USPlabs with USPlabs..........

I am holding both........
 
Prime is basically unproven at this point. So from a pure dollar standpoint I'd have to try the DTHC stack first, especially considering it's cheaper and I have actually heard of the actives.

Nothing against Prime...just that DTHC has produced results time and time again (and not just on some message board logs).
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Prime is basically unproven at this point. So from a pure dollar standpoint I'd have to try the DTHC stack first, especially considering it's cheaper and I have actually heard of the actives.

Nothing against Prime...just that DTHC has produced results time and time again (and not just on some message board logs).
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:clap2: Good post and I agree 100%.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Prime is basically unproven at this point. So from a pure dollar standpoint I'd have to try the DTHC stack first, especially considering it's cheaper and I have actually heard of the actives.

Nothing against Prime...just that DTHC has produced results time and time again (and not just on some message board logs).
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Well prime may or may not work, thats not my concern. My concern is advising this guy on what to stack DTH with since he asked. If he insist on using PRIME then I sug. he use it with Sunami, not DTH, and later run DTH with Sunami, not prime.
 
ari4216 said:
and at the same time when im talking about usp labs and get diesel, i dont favor either companie to any degree. Both of you guys could use improvement in many directions.

There is not one perfect supplement companie.

I do favor get diesel marketing compared to usp labs, which is started to sound a lot like muscletech(usp labs).

I do not favor the way chuck can be a bully sometimes(it must be all the diest test he takes,lol)

I do favor the way usp labs trys to come out with innovative herbals.

I think Get Diesel makes good formulations but i do think they could stand improvement.
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I think Get Diesel makes good formulations but i do think they could stand improvement.
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Name one other company that makes better (herbal) products than Get Diesel.

Get Diesel is the real deal. ;)
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Well prime may or may not work, thats not my concern. My concern is advising this guy on what to stack DTH with since he asked. If he insist on using PRIME then I sug. he use it with Sunami, not DTH, and later run DTH with Sunami, not prime.
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From looking at the ingredients, what would be the benefit of running sunami with prime rather than dth with prime?

Also, where did you draw your conclusion from that the TC in prime was an appetite stimulate? From every study i've read on TC (about 6), there were never any that i came across which would refer to it as an appetite stim; however, all the ones which i've researched has been talking about antioxidants.
 
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I just started yesterday doing a 30 day run of prime/dth, so i'll let everyone know how it goes...I'm not logging it online, but keeping a doc. of each day and what each day entails...

and, btw: im coming off a 22 day lay off, so this will be interesting.
 
hardknock said:
BTW:
I just started yesterday doing a 30 day run of prime/dth, so i'll let everyone know how it goes...I'm not logging it online, but keeping a doc. of each day and what each day entails...

and, btw: im coming off a 22 day lay off, so this will be interesting.
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cool....whats ur dosing going to be on each one?
 
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