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Milk Thistle-Interesting article from Anthony Roberts

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So if you go by this article, would one not use milk thistle or related supps while on cycle? I can't imagine it hurting you on cycle, just as much as it may not TOTALLY protect your liver. I am just curious. Anyone cycle mild ones like Hdrol with no milk thistle/liver cleansers at all?

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What about using a HgH secretagogue on-cycle rather than shunning the milk thistle?

I think dissuading trainees from using a proven liver protectant such as a Silymarin on-cycle isn't possibly the best course of action for the sake of a small drop in IGF-1.
 
interesting article....seems like there are many assumptions and grey areas though. Everyone I know have that has taken a support on cycle including Milk Thistle have still had great gains....... id like to see some more information on this.
 
UKStrength said:
What about using a HgH secretagogue on-cycle rather than shunning the milk thistle?

I think dissuading trainees from using a proven liver protectant such as a Silymarin on-cycle isn't possibly the best course of action for the sake of a small drop in IGF-1.
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I was thinking the same thing. I know I'm still gonna use my Cycle Support and PCS regardless. I don't see it affecting gains that much. The best point he had was that lower/moderate doses of PH/PS/AAS is prolly the safest thing for your liver.
 
well this is why i dose my AAS in the morning workout in the morning and MT right before bed like 3min before bed. that way it all dissolves
 
I think it is at least something to consider. I have never noticed there to be any negative a effects to my cycles.

Something to do would be either like the above and dose them as far apart as possible or change your liver protectants to something like Liv-52, SAM-e and others. You could make a great liver stack without MT.

However it's in most stacks so may be hard to avoid them. Probably need some more direct studies though before being too hasty.
 
MT is a staple to my pct. i have never noticed an effect from taking it with AAS even at the same time of the day. the benefits to my liver > than slight less strength if at all
 
qwerty33 said:
MT is a staple to my pct. i have never noticed an effect from taking it with AAS even at the same time of the day. the benefits to my liver > than slight less strength if at all
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I'll be doing my first Hdrol cycle soon. I was thinking the benefits would outweigh any negative affects on gains as well...

Thanks for the feedback.
 
Grambo said:
I think it is at least something to consider. I have never noticed there to be any negative a effects to my cycles.

Something to do would be either like the above and dose them as far apart as possible or change your liver protectants to something like Liv-52, SAM-e and others. You could make a great liver stack without MT.

However it's in most stacks so may be hard to avoid them. Probably need some more direct studies though before being too hasty.
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agreed
 
I would never use anything without milk thistle or any liver support. Liver Juice by Primordial Performances is top of the line, the LV technology makes it 8 times for effective than the traditional pill form
 
trojanman1016 said:
I would never use anything without milk thistle or any liver support. Liver Juice by Primordial Performances is top of the line, the LV technology makes it 8 times for effective than the traditional pill form
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If I was going to use a milk thistle product this would probably be a big consideration.
 
I thought this was a common misconception.

Ive been hearing its not good to take on cycle since 2001 timeframe

however ive always taken it

20lbs and liver failure

15 lbs and keep ur liver

hmm
 
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