MidwestBeast Goes into Stim Detox with APS Plasmagen + Creatine Nitrate (sponsored)

dam midwestbeast your killing it
 
more knowledge said:
I'm curious about the combo as well.Will be watchin'.How did you feel today?
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Felt good today; still nothing ridiculous, though. Definitely felt better w/ the Plasmagen Nitrate. We'll see if this changes any. Also, arm day would really be where I'd assess things.

JohnBrinks said:
ohh nirtozine looks good too.

Nice chest workout.
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Thanks, bro. Definitely one of the best chest days I've had in a while. The pumps were very solid.

JudgementDay said:
Congrats on the PR big man! Sounds like you had an awesome workout

Also props on the Detox, I failed today, I gave in, had 2 scoops of Jack3d pre-workout, wish it was meso, but I'm all out :( . So again I'm gonna try real hard to not cave in, back to day 1 lol
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Thanks, man. I'm pretty happy about that PR. I think I could actually get 3 plates for 1 or 2 reps if I wanted it, but that's not my game. I'll probably go for 295 next time out.

You just have to determine how bad you really want the detox. For me, I've got E/C or clen waiting on the other end of this rainbow. Regardless, you just have to know it sucks (especially the first 2 weeks or so) and that the more times you cave, the more times you'll have to go through it all over again.

You'll get it, man.

rochabp said:
dam midwestbeast your killing it
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Thanks, bro ;) I'm just trying to do what I can til I can get me some trenavar :p
 
12-11-10: Back / Day 5 no stims (for real ;) :lol:)

Nautilus Xpload Deadlifts: 180x12 / 270x10 / 320x10 / 370x10 / 420x7 / 470x6
Lat Pulldowns: 170x12 / 180x12 / 190x12 / 200x12
Seated Rows (Double D Ring): 180x12 / 190x12 / 200x12 / 210x12
Bent-over Rows (Smith Machine): 140x12 / 180x12 / 200x12 / 220x12



Last set of deads was a PR for reps (usually my grip craps out on me sooner).

I can actually go significantly higher on weight for seated rows and lat pulldowns, but I wanted slow and very controlled reps. With the higher weight, even with good form, I often feel my arms doing too much of the pulling; whereas with this weight, I'm really feeling my back do all the work.


6 caps of Nitrozine and 8 caps Creatine Nitrate pre-workout (3 scoops ModernBCAAs intra).

Didn't feel crazy today; though I normally don't feel that on a back day anyway. I did feel very wide starting out with deads (I usually hit lats first and then deads, but jumped right in today - I like that).


Tomorrow is an off day, but since I've got my new treadmill, I'll likely do cardio 2x. During football season, I like to spend the majority of my day at home after church. I should head out around 10:30 after service to get a bit of shopping done, hit a quick cardio session during the 1:00 game and then grab another one during the night game or cartoons on Fox if the night game sucks.

Planning on starting morning cardio sessions before work on Monday (only ~20 minutes).
 
MidwestBeast said:
12-11-10: Back / Day 5 no stims (for real ;) :lol:)

Nautilus Xpload Deadlifts: 180x12 / 270x10 / 320x10 / 370x10 / 420x7 / 470x6
Lat Pulldowns: 170x12 / 180x12 / 190x12 / 200x12
Seated Rows (Double D Ring): 180x12 / 190x12 / 200x12 / 210x12
Bent-over Rows (Smith Machine): 140x12 / 180x12 / 200x12 / 220x12



Last set of deads was a PR for reps (usually my grip craps out on me sooner).

I can actually go significantly higher on weight for seated rows and lat pulldowns, but I wanted slow and very controlled reps. With the higher weight, even with good form, I often feel my arms doing too much of the pulling; whereas with this weight, I'm really feeling my back do all the work.


6 caps of Nitrozine and 8 caps Creatine Nitrate pre-workout (3 scoops ModernBCAAs intra).

Didn't feel crazy today; though I normally don't feel that on a back day anyway. I did feel very wide starting out with deads (I usually hit lats first and then deads, but jumped right in today - I like that).


Tomorrow is an off day, but since I've got my new treadmill, I'll likely do cardio 2x. During football season, I like to spend the majority of my day at home after church. I should head out around 10:30 after service to get a bit of shopping done, hit a quick cardio session during the 1:00 game and then grab another one during the night game or cartoons on Fox if the night game sucks.

Planning on starting morning cardio sessions before work on Monday (only ~20 minutes).
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LOL

Damn getting a lot of PR's! way to go!
 
12-12-10: Cardio

20 minute session in around 12 after I got home from church and doing some shopping.

Chillin and watching some football (boy, do I love NFL RedZone) right now. Gonna be wrapping presents in a bit when I can muster up the energy to get off the couch :lol:

2nd cardio session (longer session) will be later this evening.
 
Dude you actually just reminded me to buy wrapping paper for the presents. :lol:
 
All right, so the Bears game was awful and I actually ended up falling asleep midway through the first quarter and woke up around half time. I was groggy and all that good stuff after that (naps do not treat me well at all). So, I ended up skipping out on my 2nd cardio session.

Diet was also a bit off, though shouldn't be over the cap in regards to calories; just a bit less protein than I like to take in.

Regardless,

I didn't let that screw up the start to this week.

12-13-10:

Morning cardio - 20 minutes on the treadmill (high incline, moderate pace).


Arms are on tap for tonight.
 
MidwestBeast said:
All right, so the Bears game was awful and I actually ended up falling asleep midway through the first quarter and woke up around half time. I was groggy and all that good stuff after that (naps do not treat me well at all). So, I ended up skipping out on my 2nd cardio session.

Diet was also a bit off, though shouldn't be over the cap in regards to calories; just a bit less protein than I like to take in.

Regardless,

I didn't let that screw up the start to this week.

12-13-10:

Morning cardio - 20 minutes on the treadmill (high incline, moderate pace).


Arms are on tap for tonight.
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Kill that arm workout tonight :drive:
 
12-13-10: Arms


Olympic Bar Curls: 85x16 / 105x15 / 115x13 / 120x13 / 120x11 + 65x8
Overhead Cable Ring Curls: 90x12 / 100x12 / 110x10 / 120x12
Cable Ring Curls (low pulleys): 80x12 / 90x12 / 100x10 / 110x6

Tri Bar Pushdowns (close grip): 190x12 / 220x12 / 230x12 / 240x10
Tri Ring Solo Reverse Curls: 60x12 / 70x12 / 80x12
Incline Skull Crushers (close grip): 110x12 / 110x12 / 110x12 / 60x15




Great workout. Arms blew up fast again and working through the pump was miserable (in a good way, though). Didn't notice any difference between the pumps here and the pumps with Plasmagen Nitrate (not a bad thing).



Cardio again upon rising (wake up, drink 1 liter of water, pop a Need2Slin and a serving of BC+EAA, jump on the treadmill) and legs in the afternoon after work.
 
MidwestBeast said:
12-13-10: Arms


Olympic Bar Curls: 85x16 / 105x15 / 115x13 / 120x13 / 120x11 + 65x8
Overhead Cable Ring Curls: 90x12 / 100x12 / 110x10 / 120x12
Cable Ring Curls (low pulleys): 80x12 / 90x12 / 100x10 / 110x6

Tri Bar Pushdowns (close grip): 190x12 / 220x12 / 230x12 / 240x10
Tri Ring Solo Reverse Curls: 60x12 / 70x12 / 80x12
Incline Skull Crushers (close grip): 110x12 / 110x12 / 110x12 / 60x15




Great workout. Arms blew up fast again and working through the pump was miserable (in a good way, though). Didn't notice any difference between the pumps here and the pumps with Plasmagen Nitrate (not a bad thing).



Cardio again upon rising (wake up, drink 1 liter of water, pop a Need2Slin and a serving of BC+EAA, jump on the treadmill) and legs in the afternoon after work.
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Nice!, Big pumps are good:D, I didn't think taking Plasmagen Nitrate out was gonna give less pumps, which is good to know.
 
MidwestBeast said:
12-13-10: Arms


Olympic Bar Curls: 85x16 / 105x15 / 115x13 / 120x13 / 120x11 + 65x8
Overhead Cable Ring Curls: 90x12 / 100x12 / 110x10 / 120x12
Cable Ring Curls (low pulleys): 80x12 / 90x12 / 100x10 / 110x6

Tri Bar Pushdowns (close grip): 190x12 / 220x12 / 230x12 / 240x10
Tri Ring Solo Reverse Curls: 60x12 / 70x12 / 80x12
Incline Skull Crushers (close grip): 110x12 / 110x12 / 110x12 / 60x15




Great workout. Arms blew up fast again and working through the pump was miserable (in a good way, though). Didn't notice any difference between the pumps here and the pumps with Plasmagen Nitrate (not a bad thing).



Cardio again upon rising (wake up, drink 1 liter of water, pop a Need2Slin and a serving of BC+EAA, jump on the treadmill) and legs in the afternoon after work.
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Oh yeah those painfull pumps.When i was stacking mesomorph and creatine nitrate on arm day i could only do 2 sometimes 3 sets because my arms were so swollen i couldn't grasp the bar,was pretty crazy.
 
JudgementDay said:
Nice!, Big pumps are good:D, I didn't think taking Plasmagen Nitrate out was gonna give less pumps, which is good to know.
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Big pumps are good, but on arms especially, it's just freakin painful to deal with in terms of getting enough working sets in.

more knowledge said:
Oh yeah those painfull pumps.When i was stacking mesomorph and creatine nitrate on arm day i could only do 2 sometimes 3 sets because my arms were so swollen i couldn't grasp the bar,was pretty crazy.
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That's about the feeling I was getting. Chest pumps are annoying, but I can tolerate. Back pumps feel great until they get to lower back and lats / upper back pumps don't disrupt things at all. Leg pumps have never stopped me, either. It's just arm pumps that hinder my workout - which is a bit annoying.
 
12-14-10:

20 minutes cardio upon rising (fasted) on the treadmill.

PM: Legs

Squats: 195x10 / 255x10 / 315x10 / 365x6 / 405x3

[Seated Leg Curls: 140x12 / 155x12 / 155x12 / 155x12
Seated Calf Raises: 270x15 / 270x15 / 270x15 / 270x15]

[Leg Extensions: 230x12 / 230x12 / 245x12 / 245x12
Seated Solo Calf Extensions: 185x15 / 185x15 / 185x15 / 185x15]

Seated Calf Raises: 290x8

Leg Press: 360x12 / 450x12




Forgot my knee braces today, so I was worried that my workout would suffer. Lucky for me, I did all right. Reason I wear them is because I've got pretty bad knees - lot of baseball and basketball injuries. I really need to get wraps eventually, but these braces do fine now.

Nothing too special to report on the workout aside from my hammys were really fried (felt great).



Cardio in the morning and Delts/Traps in the PM.




Oh, and I'll also be logging a beta bottle of LG's new Topical 7-Keto very, very soon. I'll post a link up once the thread is set ;)
 
I used NOX Pump Extreme by Ultra life Nutrition and on one arm day I had a stretch mark apear right before my eyes accross the peak of my short head of my bicep. It scared the hell out of me cos I dont want stretch marks and I stoped using it strait away and went for the normal NOX Pump instead of the Extreme version. There is a limit to the amount of pump you can physically get before it gives you stretch marks QUICK. So maybe you shouldnt push it too far with the pump procducts.
 
For anyone who wants to see what LG's Topical 7-Keto brings to the table for me, too:

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Another sponsored log! Man your'e blessed. :beerchug:
 
12-15-10: Delts / Traps

No morning cardio since yesterday was leg day. Weighed in this morning just under 235 (and that was actually after drinking my liter of water and before using the bathroom).

Diet was pretty much on point all day, except for lunch. It was our potluck after a staff meeting and so things were pretty crazy. I was allowing myself to have that one meal, as well as Christmas Eve dinner - aside from that, everything will be tightened down.

Knowing I'd be doing that, I preceded lunch with 2 Need2Sling and 2 P-Slin (~30 minutes before).




Smith Machine Military Press (bar in front): 80x15 / 120x15 / 170x13 / 190x13 / 140x15
Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt DB Side Lateral Raises: 95's x 15 / 95's x 15 / 95's x 15 / 95's x 15
Cable Side Laterals: 80x12 / 80x12 / 90x12 / 90x12
Nautilus Seated Press: 210x12 / 230x12 / 240x10 / 250x6
Smith Machine Shrugs (bar in front): 290x12 / 340x12 / 370x12 / 390x12
Smith Machine Upright Rows: 90x12 / 110x10
Smith Machine Solo Shrugs (bar on side): 110x12



Workout felt great. Was really digging the overhead press machine and didn't think I'd be able to go that high on weight since I'd already done military press on the Smith machine.

My arms looked ridiculous during this one - really dry and cutting up all over (had some nice veins in the delts showing up, too - would be even more visible if I weren't freckled lol).



Tomorrow is a fasted cardio session upon rising and another session in the evening. Good thing I've got my own treadmill now, since we're supposed to get snow shortly and then up to an inch of ice over it (also glad work was already canceled for tomorrow lol).
 
JudgementDay said:
Great workout! Day off work WOOT WOOT!!!
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Thanks, bro.

And I got to sleep in and haven't left the house yet lol. It's not as bad as I'd anticipated, but it's still nasty out. Gonna head out 'round 8:30 or so, though and watch my friend's little bro play (15 year old musician and the kid is awesome).
 
12-16-10:

Slept in a bit, but still started the day off as usual: 1 liter of water (popped 1 cap of ERASE) and hit fasted cardio for 30 minutes. Drank 2 servings of BC+EAA throughout.

Meal 1 followed immediately (as soon as I cooked it).

About to hit cardio session #2 in a bit.

Tomorrow is Chest.
 
12-16-10:

Cardio session #2 was 40 minutes doing 2-minute intervals on the treadmill (varying incline and speed). Got the heart rate up rather nice and a decent little sweat.
 
Okay, so I'm planning a huuuuuuuge cut as soon as my stim detox ends right around the start of the new year. I'm talking all out here. Now, I had been toying with the idea of some clen and T3, as I have access to them, but at this point, I'm thinking otherwise (mostly because I don't feel like running an anabolic along with it).

So, here's what I'm thinking (dosages and lengths yet to be determined):

Ephedrine
Oxy Elite Pro (as caffeine source)
Eviscerate
HEAT Stack
Lean Xtreme
TT33
Alpha T2
EGCg
CLA
Acetyl L-Carnitine
Sesamin
NOW Super Enzymes
ERASE / Triazole
Pink Magic
Need2Slin or Recompadrol (or another nutrient partitioner)

I've got almost all of that on hand already. That's just what my mind is thinking at the moment.

It'll be paired with a calorie restricted ketogenic diet (2 refeeds / week) and my same training schedule (fasted morning cardio and 2 extra sessions of cardio on my "off" days).

It'll be an 8-week blitz as I get down to the leanest I've ever been - really excited to do it.



Thoughts? :)
 
Thats a ton of supps, Ive had great success in the past with cutting without any sups at all. I shiver when I look at the list of things that some ppl are taking on the forum site, you just gota do it smart and keep it AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.

..............................Get a couple of stims

like ephidrine and caffiene

..............................a few muscle preservers

Like Vit E, CLA, creatine, Vit C, Glutamine

..............................and good testy boosters and some good protien powder.


Put together with disciplined diet and training, thats all you need IMHO.

Be smart, do you really NEED all those things or will it just be like babysitting a hand full of kids? If you take too many supps it gets more difficult to really listen to you body. And that is one the the most improtant things.
 
I must say I have that problem too when I do a stack and want my goal fast lol, my God the next stack if I listed it you would think I'm crazy lol

I never noticed anything from Acetyl L-Carnitine.
 
I'm fully aware that I don't need all of them, or any at all. In fact, I was cutting with just the keto diet and staple supps (nothing for fat loss at all) and doing just fine.

What I'm looking at is all items working fat loss from different angles/pathways. I'm not throwing a bunch of stims in or anything like that; it's a lot of different mechanisms to help achieve one goal.

I may opt to take a few things out, but I'm pretty much already set on this one - just a matter of how I set up my dosing. Some of these will likely be ran in 4-week increments and not overlapped, too, so keep that in mind.
 
Yeah Ive read up a study that suggets AL-Carnitine has little or no affect at all. Im a firm beleiver in making my own stacks with my own ingredients instead of buying some blend of who knows what from just another company. What you need to do is take a look at the labels of products that work and do a little reading into those ingredients, like if you look at the back of red bull the one ingredients that stands out that you dont see in most other stim drinks is Glucoronolactone.

I even make my own carb drinks by simmering Starch powder and Dextrose powder.

For another example Id prefer to go and buy glutamine, Vit E, creatine and CLA all seperately - yeah sure if I looked Id find some kind of protien drink with most of that in it, but probably not at the dosages Id like and I cant efficiently spread those out during the day and even week, like some days need more muscle preserving than others and different times of the day work better with different things etc etc etc.

hehe. :salook: Although Id like to try T3, Helios, epi and tren ace in March just to see how ripped I can get compared to what Ive achieved without etreme measures like that. Im gona start recomping in Jan so by march Ill have the diet and training all figured out and worked into my life.
 
more knowledge said:
Been meaning to ask.Are you training for a show or something or just setting strict goals for yourself?
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No show; just wanting to do this for myself. Although, I'll possibly be traveling out of the country come mid-March or otherwise to Hawaii. So, that's another driving force behind it.
 
JohnBrinks said:
Yeah Ive read up a study that suggets AL-Carnitine has little or no affect at all. Im a firm beleiver in making my own stacks with my own ingredients instead of buying some blend of who knows what from just another company. What you need to do is take a look at the labels of products that work and do a little reading into those ingredients, like if you look at the back of red bull the one ingredients that stands out that you dont see in most other stim drinks is Glucoronolactone.

I even make my own carb drinks by simmering Starch powder and Dextrose powder.

For another example Id prefer to go and buy glutamine, Vit E, creatine and CLA all seperately - yeah sure if I looked Id find some kind of protien drink with most of that in it, but probably not at the dosages Id like and I cant efficiently spread those out during the day and even week, like some days need more muscle preserving than others and different times of the day work better with different things etc etc etc.

hehe. :salook: Although Id like to try T3, Helios, epi and tren ace in March just to see how ripped I can get compared to what Ive achieved without etreme measures like that. Im gona start recomping in Jan so by march Ill have the diet and training all figured out and worked into my life.
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I'm a big fan of getting bulk supplies myself. And I do often just get individual ingredients when I can, rather than prop. blends.

I know the diet, I know the training. I'm getting results right now. It's just a matter of putting it all into action. And as bad as it might sound, I hod myself far more accountable when I'm taking supplements (and logging) because I'm spending money on that and I don't want to waste it. Not the best way of going about things, but I'm way more on top of things.

So I'm looking at a killer 8 weeks.
 
12-17-10: Chest

Incline Bench: 155x12 / 205x12 / 235x12 / 265x6 / 225x12
Cable Flys (high pulley): 120x12 / 120x12 / 120x12 / 120x12
Cable Flys (low pulley): 80x12 / 80x12 / 80x12 / 80x12
Solo Cable Fly Stretch (low pulley): 50x12 / 50x12 / 50x12 / 60x12
Dips: Bodyweight x 20




Worked with a quicker tempo than usual today. Decent workout when it was all said and done, but not my best chest day at all. Incline bench wasn't going as well as it had been and I was gonna go for a new PR this week, but alas, today was not the day.

Once I got to the cables, it was pretty good. Good hard pump and veins were going nuts in my delts again.



Skipped morning cardio because my stomach didn't feel too good this morning. Most likely will try to pick up another cardio session this evening.

Tomorrow is Back.
 
JudgementDay said:
Nice workout!, I find it's really hard to beat PR's while cutting.
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Thanks, bro. Yeah, it definitely is, but for some reason I've had really good luck with that in the past. I'm chalking it up to a subpar day and still hoping the strength is there to go after a 295 incline for reps during a cut next week ;) (or I may take a week off of chest or at least presses and just do some real light work and then in 2 weeks just go right at it...we'll see what I think next week).




Oh, and I got my 8 week cut figured out, too. It is going to be quite epic :)
 
12-18-10:

20 minutes of fasted cardio (intervals on the treadmill) in the books.

Back is on tap for later this afternoon or evening.



Weighed in at 231.4 this morning. Lowest I've hit in a while. I'm really excited about my upcoming New Year's cut with the success I'm already getting now. Diet hasn't changed all that much and I even had a feast on Wednesday and I'm losing more now than I had been - I attribute the morning cardio (and cardio being split from weights) to this as a major contributor.

I also haven't worked abs directly in about 4 months and they're still pretty sharp - not as great as they were, but I was also 208 when I stopped working them. As soon as the new year hits, I'll be hitting them twice a week.

I spent some inventory time, put in an order for a couple more things and did the math on laying out my cut last night - it will be nothing short of epic...I absolutely cannot wait.

When I head back to my hometown in the next few days, I'll be using the local YMCA as my gym and I plan on doing some swimming for cardio again - been forever.

Needless to say I'm pretty stoked.
 
12-18-10: Back

Nautilux Xpload Deads: 180x10 / 270x10 / 320x10 / 370x10 / 420x8 / 470x7
Underhand Lat Pulldowns: 170x12 / 180x12 / 190x12 / 170x12
Smith Machine Bent-Over Rows: 150x12 / 180x12 / 200x12 / 220x12
Double D-Ring Pulldowns: 160x12 / 170x12 / 180x12 / 190x12
 
Nice workout!

Congrats on the good progress, looking forward to your next stack, will you log it? If so I'll be following along:D
 
JudgementDay said:
Nice workout!

Congrats on the good progress, looking forward to your next stack, will you log it? If so I'll be following along:D
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Thanks again, bro.

I'll definitely be logging it. It keeps me even more accountable and I always like to share what I'm doing as well as get other takes on things from some of the smart guys around here ;)
 
12-19-10:

20 minutes of intervals on the treadmill, fasted, this morning



230.4 lbs this morning ;)




This is normally a 2x cardio day, but I may be hitting arms a day early so I can drive tomorrow and only worry about a second cardio session at the end of my 7-hour drive. No decision made yet; I'll update.
 
MidwestBeast said:
Thanks again, bro.

I'll definitely be logging it. It keeps me even more accountable and I always like to share what I'm doing as well as get other takes on things from some of the smart guys around here ;)
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I feel the same way thats why I like to keep logs.
 
12-20-10:

20 minutes fasted morning cardio (treadmill intervals)



Arms:

Olympic Bar Curls: 90x12 / 110x12 / 115x14 / 120x14 / 120x12
Preacher Curl Machine (solo / straight grip): 80x12 / 80x12 / 80x10 / 65x11
Incline DB Curls: 30's x 10

Low Incline Skull Crushers: 120x12 / 130x12 / 130x11 / 110x12
Tri Bar Pushdowns (wide grip, rolling hands forward @ end): 180x12 / 190x12 / 200x12 / 210x12
45 Degree Reverse Ring Curls: 70x12 / 70x12 / 70x12 / 70x12


Biceps were actually way too pumped today and that's why I stopped when I did on the DB curls; there was just no point anymore.

Focus on the preacher machine solo curls was my range of motion, making sure I really stretched the muscle out on the way down (wasn't working so well at the top to squeeze/stretch since the pump was so much).

It was a very good arm day. I'm about sick of arm day anymore, but I felt like a beast there - arms were just huge.




12-21-10:

No fasted cardio today.




Legs:

Leg Press: 360x12 / 540x12 / 540x12 / 630x8 / 450x10 / 270x12
Leg Extensions: 185x15 / 200x12 / 215x12 / 230x12 / 140x12
Prone Leg Curls: 60x12 / 70x12 / 75x12 / 75x10
Seated Calf Raises: 230x15 / 250x15 / 250x15 / 250x15
Seated Calf Extensions: 255x15 / 255x15 / 255x15 / 255x15



This was the worst leg day I've had in quite some time. I decided to start with leg presses to give my body a week's break from squats. Strength was just not there. I ended up getting caught up talking for about 10 minutes to a few guys between the extensions and leg curls. Normally it would piss me off, but I guess it didn't bother me as much since the workout was so awful.

We were talking about diets and such. One of the guys knew I'd be cutting and was asking about my steps for that, etc. I really enjoy talking this stuff, but hate it when it impedes my workout (normally; but today was a waste, it felt).



I may try to hit some PM cardio just to feel like it wasn't such a waste.
 
Hmm maybe on arm day try lowering the dose pre-workout for pumps.

I find when I cut my leg strength is what goes down the most.
 
JudgementDay said:
Hmm maybe on arm day try lowering the dose pre-workout for pumps.

I find when I cut my leg strength is what goes down the most.
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It's not even just supp pumps anymore; it's just to the point that starting off with olympic bar curls gets them overly pumped really fast. And I don't want to go with any other route since those are so effective for me - I focus on really stretching at the low point after.

And yeah, leg strength seems to be the one area that I've really felt it. But last week I was still hitting 405 for reps on squats, so this was a little surprising since I used to bang out over 1,000 lbs for low reps on the leg press.
 
arms too pumped???
no such thing
lol
i wish i had your problem
 
rochabp said:
arms too pumped???
no such thing
lol
i wish i had your problem
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Haha! :lol:

Well, back in the day I'd hit 4 different lifts for biceps and triceps each - usually 4x12's on each (or 3x15's). But now, after olympic bar curls, they're just swollen like crazy and everything after barely allows me to bend past a 90 degree angle because of the pump.

But, I never used to do olympic bar curls; I'd hit EZ bar curls, DB curls and cable curls. These just work very well; so it takes some getting used to.
 
MidwestBeast said:
It's not even just supp pumps anymore; it's just to the point that starting off with olympic bar curls gets them overly pumped really fast. And I don't want to go with any other route since those are so effective for me - I focus on really stretching at the low point after.

And yeah, leg strength seems to be the one area that I've really felt it. But last week I was still hitting 405 for reps on squats, so this was a little surprising since I used to bang out over 1,000 lbs for low reps on the leg press.
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Well repping 120lbs for about 15 reps on curls would give some crazy pump lol
But it's working for you because your arms are massive! Why change if it works:)

I've always had a hard time squating due to my crappy right knee, but I got up to 300lbs for 8 reps then once I focused less on squats and more on the MMA training while cutting for 2 months and when I did squats again my max was 225 for 8...truly depressing lol. But now that I'm lean bulking and weight is going back up time to get them squats up:D

Props to you bro, cutting and getting a cardio workout and weight workouts in all the time while on a low cal/low carb diet is where it shows true dedication! :cheers:
 
JudgementDay said:
Well repping 120lbs for about 15 reps on curls would give some crazy pump lol
But it's working for you because your arms are massive! Why change if it works:)

I've always had a hard time squating due to my crappy right knee, but I got up to 300lbs for 8 reps then once I focused less on squats and more on the MMA training while cutting for 2 months and when I did squats again my max was 225 for 8...truly depressing lol. But now that I'm lean bulking and weight is going back up time to get them squats up:D

Props to you bro, cutting and getting a cardio workout and weight workouts in all the time while on a low cal/low carb diet is where it shows true dedication! :cheers:
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Haha, thanks, bro. Truly kind words. And they're inspiring to keep me true to all of this.

I've got bad knees, too. Used to be just one, but both have had enough injuries that they're junked now. I had osgood in both growing up, caught for years in baseball and then had some basketball related knee injuries to boot. And this past May, I actually blew out my left hamstring really bad, too.

I always skipped legs off and on during baseball in HS because otherwise my run times would be slower (weights came before running...sucked big time lol). And then once I was in college, I was like every other tool and only did upper body. I didn't start lifting legs again til I was in grad school (really my second year, too). I always said that basketball was my conditioning for legs...great, except they won't grow lol.

So I hadn't been lifting legs long at all, then blew out the hammy and now I'm hitting 405x5 on a cut (and I won't count them unless it's butt all the way down), so that's pretty good considering the lack of time put in (even though with my size, the weight should be so much higher).

Legs are definitely one of my weaker areas in terms of visuals. I finally added some good size to the trunks (though they still need more...they'll get that after this cut) and the calves have always been pretty good. I always find something that's a weak spot for me to focus on building up :lol:
 
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20 minutes fasted cardio (treadmill intervals)



Was gonna hit delts and traps tonight, but my tri's were just still fried from Monday and I normally don't feel sore 2 days later any more, so I took it as a sign to not pile more on.

I made the long trek to my hometown today and just decided to hang with family and relax a bit; so no second session today (once January hits, that will no longer be an option).

Cardio in the AM and delts and traps in the afternoon tomorrow.
 
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