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i was just wondering if i could get any feedback on this steroid?
what were the gains like and such?
what were the gains like and such?
LOL. It's funny because it's true.basically M1T is poison. It's main side effect is rapid muscle growth in some people.
You ever get bloodwork done after a cycle?M1T Rules! I've used it on several occasions, and I loved it! The only side I've ever had from it is lethargy. It goes to show that different people respond to things differently. M1T always gets the "bad wrap" by being called poison, sh1t, death (haha), you name it. I wonder how many of the people saying this have actually tried M1T versus those who are just spreading what they've read others say..?..?..?
You ever get bloodwork done after a cycle?
Yep.Some people need to understand that because you don't see any negative effects in the mirror doesn't mean that your internal functions aren't fvcked up.
Your underlying point has merit. However, there are some products which develop enough body of data behind them that they are clearly demonstrated to be outliers in the substance spectrum. M1T is such an outlier. It has stunningly negative effects upon the body at even small doses. Other products simply do not even after generating a similar body of user data.Yep.
"And yes, the long term effects may yet to be seen, but that goes for all of the options."
Pretending that one option is better long term, than others, is also foolish. Anything can cause problems, used in excess.
I couldn't say. One thing I wish I would have done while still working in the lab is get some #'s done on some of the illegals for comparison's sake.would you guys say that M1T and Anadrol are about the same when it comes to liver damage?
..i was thinking of doing the following cycle
1st week
5mg m1t
100mg 4ad
ditoxifen
an AI i dont know which one yet
no xplode
anabolic pump
perfect cycle by anabolic extreme
cycle support...will run 2 weeks before start of cycle
vitamin b6
and also considering DIM
2nd week
everything the same except 10 mg m1t
post cycle therapy
perfect cycle
cycle support
timorefene citrate 120mg/3 days 90mg/4days 60mg/1 week
and 30mg/last week
also alri evolution stack
what do you guys think
i think i have verything covered there?
Is it that m1T is the only thing that is available to you? Is that the reason why you are thinking of using it????i was thinking of doing the following cycle
1st week
5mg m1t
100mg 4ad
ditoxifen
an AI i dont know which one yet
no xplode
anabolic pump
perfect cycle by anabolic extreme
cycle support...will run 2 weeks before start of cycle
vitamin b6
and also considering DIM
2nd week
everything the same except 10 mg m1t
post cycle therapy
perfect cycle
cycle support
timorefene citrate 120mg/3 days 90mg/4days 60mg/1 week
and 30mg/last week
also alri evolution stack
what do you guys think
i think i have verything covered there?
i was thinking of doing the following cycle
1st week
5mg m1t
100mg 4ad
ditoxifen
an AI i dont know which one yet
no xplode
anabolic pump
perfect cycle by anabolic extreme
cycle support...will run 2 weeks before start of cycle
vitamin b6
and also considering DIM
2nd week
everything the same except 10 mg m1t
post cycle therapy
perfect cycle
cycle support
timorefene citrate 120mg/3 days 90mg/4days 60mg/1 week
and 30mg/last week
also alri evolution stack
what do you guys think
i think i have verything covered there?
Yes.what do you guys think of this cycle
though?
are there any flaws?
very interesting.....i was toying with the idea of an m1t pulse.only using it once a week,and another compound two other days....still planing that one..need to get my bloodwork back before i even consider it.i literally just posted this in another thread.
"im just going to go ahead and say it.
i thought havoc was MUCH worse on my system than m1t ever was, and i used it 4 times. in month long cycles....at 30-40mgs a day.
by the end of my month on havoc i needed literally 12 hours of sleep a day, i had some serious digestion issues (ill leave it at that), and my mood swings were way out of control. i believe i stopped my log at the 2nd week because i simply didnt have the energy to type. stuff was pretty bad on the libido as well.
id take m1t over havoc ANY day."
i just felt like complete ass on havoc. my entire system felt dirty, and i stopped taking the stuff a week ago and im still having connective tissue problems. **** havoc.
the strength gains and hardness werent as good as with m1t at all.
the lethargy from havoc literally blew me out of the water. i did gain 20lbs on the stuff though, have to nod my head to that. felt like complete **** during my workouts by the end of week 2.
then again, i seem to be the only one who has gotten this kind of reaction. take it for what its worth.
10mgs of m1t a day for a month will probably pack on 15lbs and minimize side effects. 10mgs of havoc....well.....
well i think pulsing is the most ridiculous and dangerious idea ever with any steroid but...very interesting.....i was toying with the idea of an m1t pulse.only using it once a week,and another compound two other days....still planing that one..need to get my bloodwork back before i even consider it.
i have seen ss bloodwork and dr.d said to me that this would be the safest way!!!!!!....note i said TOYING...nuff saidwell i think pulsing is the most ridiculous and dangerious idea ever with any steroid but...
m1t is probably the worst choice to even try it with. even one dose would probably half you natty test output, if not more. take a look at supersoldiers blood work and dr. d's comments on m1t.
m1t is probably one of the most suppressive steroids out there, if not the most supressive steroid that can legitamately be used in any type of cycle. any dosing whatsoever and you are ***** slapping your HPTA in the face.
Not really. You solicited advice and then ignored it. Best of luck to you.care to elaborate?
well i think pulsing is the most ridiculous and dangerious idea ever with any steroid but...
hey jomi why do you think pulsing is the most ridiculous and dangerous idea ever?
because it advances that idea that steroids are ok to take without PCT. it also involves blasting your system with varying doses of potent hormones, if anything this is probably more supressive...well i think pulsing is the most ridiculous and dangerious idea ever with any steroid but...
hey jomi why do you think pulsing is the most ridiculous and dangerous idea ever?
its just going to cause problems for people, and there will be problems and reprucussions for those who do this without running post cycle therapy. its just a matter of time
second of all. dr d. himself has said m1t is one of the most supressive steroids available. people have reported taking a normal dose one day, and waking up the second day with symptoms of shutdown. personally by day 2 my nuts are no longer hanging low anymore. there is no such thing as "pulsing" with m1t. 1 dose and youve already done very significant damage.
this is seriously ridiculous, and i really wish someone else would speak up before people start getting hurt. dr. d invented this idea, and i really havent seen any other reputable members speak up about it.
safe cycling is done with a stable dose of hormones over a normal period of time with as little fluctuation as possible. with a full post cycle therapy prefferably with a SERM. there are really no exceptions.
id also like to point out that this idea was originally applied to epistane/havoc. i have taken havoc, and ill tell you right now that stuff is no friggin joke supression and side effects-wise. i have taken m1t in 4 cycles, and would love to take it again. i have taken havoc once, and had to stop. i will never touch it again.
I'm almost done a 3 week M1T cycle (Promatrix M1T Plex) and I'm loving it. Strength gains have been absolutely awesome, I've been adding 5-10lbs to every lift every single workout. I am up about 15lbs, although a fair amount of it is water, which I cannot wait to lose. My dosage was/is 10mg/20mg/20mg.
Worst side effect is the damn lower back pumps, beyond that, nothing really to report.
Would I do it again? Yes.
Interesting. How come you had to stop? Sorry if you've already talked about it elsewhere.i have taken havoc, and ill tell you right now that stuff is no friggin joke supression and side effects-wise. i have taken m1t in 4 cycles, and would love to take it again. i have taken havoc once, and had to stop. i will never touch it again.
Hell, people do crack over and over again but that usually isn't something people look to as a good thingI'm almost done a 3 week M1T cycle (Promatrix M1T Plex) and I'm loving it. Strength gains have been absolutely awesome, I've been adding 5-10lbs to every lift every single workout. I am up about 15lbs, although a fair amount of it is water, which I cannot wait to lose. My dosage was/is 10mg/20mg/20mg.
Worst side effect is the damn lower back pumps, beyond that, nothing really to report.
Would I do it again? Yes.
In case you got lost: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/65682-synergy-101-rpm.htmlwell okaaay , since you used a half baked quote i guess I can do that
i had the ****s, had to sleep literally half the day, my connective tissue got allll effed up, and yes i got back pumps....for the first time on ANY steroid.Odd, Havoc treated me OK in the sides department and usually I am the super-sensitive one. Back pumps and some lethargy were all I noticed and they weren't as bad as M1T or superdrol for me.
Besides the lethargy issue, it's superdrol's effects on lipids that have kept me away so far. That said, I am contemplating a cycle of it in late June or July. If I go ahead with it though, I'll stack it with some transdermal 4-ad to combat some of the sides (i.e. lethargy, libido)...we'll see....I thought what jomi said about havoc was interesting. That's because when ever I see one of these M1T threads I think the same about superdrol. For me M1T caused some lethargy and notable aggresion, but superdrol made me feel like I was dying. Horrible lethargy. Most people say that superdrol is milder than M1T, but for me that wasn't the case. So it just goes to show that everybody responds differently to each compound.
good point, but heres the dealI thought what jomi said about havoc was interesting. That's because when ever I see one of these M1T threads I think the same about superdrol. For me M1T caused some lethargy and notable aggresion, but superdrol made me feel like I was dying. Horrible lethargy. Most people say that superdrol is milder than M1T, but for me that wasn't the case. So it just goes to show that everybody responds differently to each compound.
Start low, get bloodwork done, listen to your body. The consequences can be substantial otherwise.
One thing I'll say about M1T is everything you heard about the test shutdown is true. After each cycle (and they were short ones at that), I lost most of the gains. However, it was not just because of the catabolic state induced by low test/high cortisol, but also because I had no interest in working out for weeks post cycle. The post cycle psychological symptoms can be severe. Just one reason you hear so much negative about M1T.