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Methoxy-Trn log

yep, Nutra is actually out of it already. **** where are the logs, since people bought the hell out of it from Nutra???????????
 
Stuff sounds too hardcore for me. That much shutdown and BP increase in less than 2 weeks scares me.

Good luck with it though.
 
Is he even getting more methoxy-trn, it is not listed on his site anymore? Was this a one time run deal or something or is this going to be continued being made for a while? Im hoping for it to continue, I dont have anymore money for stuff but I wanted to try this.....maybe I should just stay away from methyls for a while, this could be a sign, we need some more good non-methyls to come back out, good bulking ones.
 
i think it was a one time deal, i think whatever they got in for a shipment they could sell and that was it...done.
 
bigmontel said:
i think it was a one time deal, i think whatever they got in for a shipment they could sell and that was it...done.

Yea this was a one time deal, exactly why i got 4 bottles. LOL Exact same reason they arent releasing methoxy tst.
 
sup fellas

BP 145/90:frustrate

Workout
~65%

Snatch 60 x 4 90 x 4 110 x 3 120 x 3
Power Clean 100 x 4 130 x 4 155 x 3 160 x 2
Front Squat 100 x 4 130 x 4 160 x 4 185 x 3 190 x 2
Good Mornings 160 x 5 190 x 5 210 x 4 230 x 3 250 x 2

I felt like **** during my workout today, just had no motivation. My strength though is doing really well, I feel really strong. 400 on fsquats was a breeze, and gm's were no problem either. Muscles are feeling and looking much harder, no increase in vascularity, and certainly no bloat. This is a rather dry hormone thus far.

Weight 307 +5
Waist- same
Chest- up 1/8 in:think:
right thigh- same maybe slightly larger not worth noting

I must add my joints are killing me, which honestly is normal, but not to this extent. Took a long time for me to warm-up and feel loose enough to train.

I may be upping the dose to 6mgs, we will see.
 
ryansm said:
sup fellas

BP 145/90:frustrate

Workout
~65%

Snatch 60 x 4 90 x 4 110 x 3 120 x 3
Power Clean 100 x 4 130 x 4 155 x 3 160 x 2
Front Squat 100 x 4 130 x 4 160 x 4 185 x 3 190 x 2
Good Mornings 160 x 5 190 x 5 210 x 4 230 x 3 250 x 2

I felt like **** during my workout today, just had no motivation. My strength though is doing really well, I feel really strong. 400 on fsquats was a breeze, and gm's were no problem either. Muscles are feeling and looking much harder, no increase in vascularity, and certainly no bloat. This is a rather dry hormone thus far.

Weight 307 +5
Waist- same
Chest- up 1/8 in:think:
right thigh- same maybe slightly larger not worth noting

I must add my joints are killing me, which honestly is normal, but not to this extent. Took a long time for me to warm-up and feel loose enough to train.

I may be upping the dose to 6mgs, we will see.

Im not good with Blood pressure, but is 145/90 a bad thing? Im guessing so. Overall how is body composition? How come you felt like **** today? Sorry for the questions bro just curious is all.
 
Normal is Less than 120/less than 80 mm Hg
Pre-Hypertension, 120-139/80-89 mm Hg
Stage 1 Hypertension, 140-159/90-99 mm Hg
Stage 2 Hypertension, at or greater than 160/at or greater than 100 mm Hg

Body comp is about the same, like I said there is some hardening. I have no idea why I felt like crap for my workout, I felt fine during the day. Probably nothing, just not a good workout day as far as intensity.
 
ryansm,

How has your BP been affected by past cycles? That is, do you typically have to watch it and have the numbers jump up in response to a cycle and/or is Methoxy-TRN being a particular problem in this respect?
 
ryansm said:
Normal is Less than 120/less than 80 mm Hg
Pre-Hypertension, 120-139/80-89 mm Hg
Stage 1 Hypertension, 140-159/90-99 mm Hg
Stage 2 Hypertension, at or greater than 160/at or greater than 100 mm Hg

Body comp is about the same, like I said there is some hardening. I have no idea why I felt like crap for my workout, I felt fine during the day. Probably nothing, just not a good workout day as far as intensity.


Aahhh ok. Somedays were just not motivated i guess! So you think this is by far your fav methyl or oral? My fav oral was surprisingly 1-ad, never got anything close to that in pumps or strength gain. Hopefully some of these new things coming out help. Ive tried just about everything. Next up Phera plex, meo trn, and halodrol! Not all at once of course.
 
Hey Ryan,
Maybe I'm missing something, but you say 400 on front squats was a breeze, yet your workout summary shows your peak training weight as 190x2. :think: I don't get it????
 
Beowulf said:
Hey Ryan,
Maybe I'm missing something, but you say 400 on front squats was a breeze, yet your workout summary shows your peak training weight as 190x2. :think: I don't get it????

Thats in Kilograms :)
2.2 x 190kg = 418 lbs
 
shootmeagain said:
ryansm,

How has your BP been affected by past cycles? That is, do you typically have to watch it and have the numbers jump up in response to a cycle and/or is Methoxy-TRN being a particular problem in this respect?

Good question, I usually take precaution for every cycle, and I have never had this much of a problem.
 
Beowulf said:
Hey Ryan,
Maybe I'm missing something, but you say 400 on front squats was a breeze, yet your workout summary shows your peak training weight as 190x2. :think: I don't get it????

Come on Beo you have seen some of my other lifts. everything is in kilos, my top front squat is just over 500 pounds, so 190 is roughly 418. I guess i could start posting it in lbs.:rolleyes: Invalid Link Removed
 
Is this still ur fav methyl considering the BP problems? Do you think this is as bad or worse then M1T? Thanks bro. :type:
 
Well thus far I still like it. It is similar to m5aa in regards to strength gains, which is one of my favs. I don't know it ranks up there. Blood work is still the final judgement. M1t was just nasty stuff, I hope this does not turn out to be more of the same.

As far as bb'ing purposes I am not sure if this is best suited for that purpose. SD and or d-bol would rank high in that department.
 
ryansm said:
Well thus far I still like it. It is similar to m5aa in regards to strength gains, which is one of my favs. I don't know it ranks up there. Blood work is still the final judgement. M1t was just nasty stuff, I hope this does not turn out to be more of the same.

As far as bb'ing purposes I am not sure if this is best suited for that purpose. SD and or d-bol would rank high in that department.

Why would you say Meo Trn wouldnt be good for BB'ing reason? Just curious. Thanks bro for all the help and the great log.:thumbsup:
 
Not saying it wouldn't be good, but I think there are better options. It would work nicely for a cut though the more I think about it.

Certainly would go real well with some test.
 
ryansm said:
Not saying it wouldn't be good, but I think there are better options. It would work nicely for a cut though the more I think about it.

Certainly would go real well with some test.
what about something like maxlmg?
 
diplomats said:
I am running mine with Finigenx, starting Monday. Check out my log bro.
hmmm sounds nice bro. ya my thinking behind the max LMG is its supposed to have a pretty good andro ana balance, good strength and good weight gain.

Diplomats, i know you whore the hell outta finigenx but have you by chance tried max LMG? if so did you see relatively noticable bulking?

ill def be following your log though!
 
well not to railroad ryansm's thread but i started taking my methoxy-tren two days ago and i've had bad stomach pains since...my last dose will be it for me with this stuff...
i've tried all kinds of PH/PS's and never had this kind of reaction before, are any of you guy's taking this getting stomach pains? like someone just punched you in the stomach but it lasts for hours after i take the pill.
 
poopypants said:
Diplomats, i know you whore the hell outta finigenx but have you by chance tried max LMG? if so did you see relatively noticable bulking?

ill def be following your log though!

LOL on the "whore the hell out of finigenx" comment. Bro i have not yet triend it out, but my homeboy tried it and told me that it was kind of like finigenx but you get shut down hard before you know it. Hmmm i might just go ahead and give it a try instead of finigenx for my next cycle. I am almost broke thanks to x-box 360, to purchase 4 240ml of finigenx bottles.
 
BryanM said:
Well max is a progetsin and so is this

doesnt finagenx convert into base trenbolone???

No it does not conver to tren. Its just similar in effects bro. So will there be a problem stacking this stuff with MAX-LMG? I know they are both Progetstin.
 
ryansm said:
Not saying it wouldn't be good, but I think there are better options. It would work nicely for a cut though the more I think about it.

Certainly would go real well with some test.

Hey ryansm any updates?
 
diplomats said:
No it does not conver to tren. Its just similar in effects bro. So will there be a problem stacking this stuff with MAX-LMG? I know they are both Progetstin.
honestly i dont see why stacking progestins would exhibit a problem. if im thinking correctly progestins really become a problem when you allready have an active substance aromatizing to estrogen and the progestin mimicks this action or just worsens it.

hmmm i stacked PP and prostan and did just fine and those are both progestins.

the main thing im trying to figure out if they would be a good stack as far as complimenting eachother, cause any sides can always be prevented with certain measures, say 20mg nolva ED.
 
a little interjection

I hope you don't mind ryan! I am on day 8 of my methoxy tren cycle
I feel fuller and stronger and to help answer some questions about this product for body building I am geared more towards that ie.. I am a body builder rather than power llifter. I already did an e-max s/drol cycle and actually M TRn is making me more fuller, funny thing no pump like S/drol I gained 5 lbs first weekof Tren I weigh about 228 @ 5'8" 12% BF. I know it is early to tell But as I near the end of my cycle I will give my opinion on how this would work for a body builder ..Hope this helps BTW
Spoke to an ALRI rep @ Mr. O show in Vegas and on the Phone M/ Trn supposed to be about 1/3 as toxic as s/Drol for for what it's worth!! Good luck and be well!!
 
diplomats said:
LOL on the "whore the hell out of finigenx" comment. Bro i have not yet triend it out, but my homeboy tried it and told me that it was kind of like finigenx but you get shut down hard before you know it. Hmmm i might just go ahead and give it a try instead of finigenx for my next cycle. I am almost broke thanks to x-box 360, to purchase 4 240ml of finigenx bottles.


Hey diplomats, have you tried the PDS Testrenx? Supposedly the same compound as finigenx for much cheaper (saw it for like $27 at one point)...

I grabbed a bottle because I wanted to try finigenx eventually, but have yet to crack it open...
 
Lithuanian Bear said:
I hope you don't mind ryan! I am on day 8 of my methoxy tren cycle
I feel fuller and stronger and to help answer some questions about this product for body building I am geared more towards that ie.. I am a body builder rather than power llifter. I already did an e-max s/drol cycle and actually M TRn is making me more fuller, funny thing no pump like S/drol I gained 5 lbs first weekof Tren I weigh about 228 @ 5'8" 12% BF. I know it is early to tell But as I near the end of my cycle I will give my opinion on how this would work for a body builder ..Hope this helps BTW
Spoke to an ALRI rep @ Mr. O show in Vegas and on the Phone M/ Trn supposed to be about 1/3 as toxic as s/Drol for for what it's worth!! Good luck and be well!!

Keep us posted man as often as possible. Plenty of us are watching ryanism's log closely. The more the merrier...
 
poopypants said:
honestly i dont see why stacking progestins would exhibit a problem. if im thinking correctly progestins really become a problem when you allready have an active substance aromatizing to estrogen and the progestin mimicks this action or just worsens it.

hmmm i stacked PP and prostan and did just fine and those are both progestins.

the main thing im trying to figure out if they would be a good stack as far as complimenting eachother, cause any sides can always be prevented with certain measures, say 20mg nolva ED.

Its true as long as you keep estro in check but if you have 1 strong progestin derivative then is there really a need???
 
Day 12

Workout:
~65%
Snatch pull 120 x 4 130 x 4 140 x 3 for three additional sets

Oly back squat (ATG) 180 x 6 200 x 5 220 x 3 260 x 2 280 x 1 290 x 1 300 x 1 310 x 1 320 x 1 330 x 1 340 x 1

clean pulls 130 x 5 for 4 sets

Jerks 120 x 3 140 x 2 160 x 2 180 x 1 190 x 1 200 x 1

Well today kicked ass, I went really heavy on squats today nearly 750. I would estimate my squat to be well over 800 at this point. Everything else was really easy as well, felt great the entire workout. Strength is really starting to climb.

BP 138/84

Still feel good, so besides the bp everything is fine. I did notice a serious back pump today, will see if this stays or gets worse.
 
Lithuanian Bear said:
I hope you don't mind ryan! I am on day 8 of my methoxy tren cycle
I feel fuller and stronger and to help answer some questions about this product for body building I am geared more towards that ie.. I am a body builder rather than power llifter. I already did an e-max s/drol cycle and actually M TRn is making me more fuller, funny thing no pump like S/drol I gained 5 lbs first weekof Tren I weigh about 228 @ 5'8" 12% BF. I know it is early to tell But as I near the end of my cycle I will give my opinion on how this would work for a body builder ..Hope this helps BTW
Spoke to an ALRI rep @ Mr. O show in Vegas and on the Phone M/ Trn supposed to be about 1/3 as toxic as s/Drol for for what it's worth!! Good luck and be well!!

Interesting, please keep us updated
 
bigmontel said:
well not to railroad ryansm's thread but i started taking my methoxy-tren two days ago and i've had bad stomach pains since...my last dose will be it for me with this stuff...
i've tried all kinds of PH/PS's and never had this kind of reaction before, are any of you guy's taking this getting stomach pains? like someone just punched you in the stomach but it lasts for hours after i take the pill.

I have heard feedback with the same issues on other progestins (oral) It may have some common theme.
 
ryansm said:
I have heard feedback with the same issues on other progestins (oral) It may have some common theme.
well i've never had any problems before on M1T or 1AD but i just wanted to see if anyone else was getting the same side effect, so you haven't experienced this at all?
 
Aren't you supposed to take this with food? If so, maybe stomach issues are caused by not doing so? Just speculating/guessing.
 
na, thats not it because i eat right before i take it, and i eat about every two hours, so thats not it.
i didn't take one yet today and i feel fine...so i'm going to eat lunch and try to take one and if it gives me a stomach ache i'm done with it.
 
ryano said:
Your are taking PGH-T as well arent you?
yes, i am using the p-ght also, i wanted to try the p-ght just to see if it did anything but if you have any questions on it put it in the log i have started in the universal kits section as i don't want to jack ryansm's thread.
 
like apo stated, the gyno problem which im very prone too. i took max lmg for a week and got it. i would only take this product or real tren for that matter with a strong AI like letro.
 
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