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yeah i know... just spreadin the word about my "problem" 
dertynasty said:yeah i know... just spreadin the word about my "problem"![]()
In all likelihood... YES Because that's why & how ALRI designed these compounds...Lithuanian Bear said:I think I just figured out my next stack Mega trn and Methoxy TST just got an e-mail telling me about the presale . I wonder how you can compare it to the infamous test -tren cycle (injectable )?
raider1 said:Yeh I agree there.. Emax and Prostanozol is a great stack.. save the TRN for another cycle .. believe me you will have excellent results from Emax.. :twisted:
raider1 said:It would be great as a solo, works very well with Prostanazol..or a good CEE.. I did a cycle of this early summer last year , right as softball was starting and 3 weeks later guys in the league were noticing the size increase :twisted:
I did a 5 week cycle of this of this and put on almost 10lbs..very hard to do during the summer... oh , and the increase in libido was a great effect also :twisted:
Hopefully that means the stores will still carry the line for a bit?kappaz said:Public Notice: In 30 Days Notice. Effective May 12th 2006 Generic Labz will no longer sell or produce any Pro-Hormone Type products.
jmh80 said:I've not had any issues with TST and TRN while doing cardio.
grexx said:have some fun with this:
m-tst 4-6 mgs/day for 4 weeks
m-trn 4-6 mgs/day same
mega-zol 150-200 mgs/day same
Sharia said:Hey Grexx nice pics on your profile. I got a questrion for you, the thigs you listed above (M-tst, M-trn and Mega-zol) in comparison to Halodrol 50 which one do you think has less side effects and better results or would you rate them about the same?
Thanks.
Shakira
grexx said:have some fun with this:
m-tst 4-6 mgs/day for 4 weeks
m-trn 4-6 mgs/day same
mega-zol 150-200 mgs/day same
Sharia said:Hey Grexx or anyone else, while I was doing some research I cam accross X-Mass as a weight gainer. Can anyone tell me which one is better of the two, Halodrol 50 or X-mass?
Thanks
xtraflossy said:While I dont think stacking is necessesary in this case, I really dont see a problem with stacking the 2, running X-MASS for maybe 3 weeks then H-50 for 3 weeks after ,maybe the 1 trasision week.
Just wanted to say that the possibility is feasable, but I dont think its necessesary.
You would probably get more out of 2 independent cycles.
xtraflossy said:While I dont think stacking is necessesary in this case, I really dont see a problem with stacking the 2, running X-MASS for maybe 3 weeks then H-50 for 3 weeks after ,maybe the 1 trasision week.
Just wanted to say that the possibility is feasable, but I dont think its necessesary.
You would probably get more out of 2 independent cycles.
SubliminalX said:Just wanted to bump this for a question.
I read elsewhere that the reported chemical structure of Mega-TRN is such that it likely has zero bioavailability.
And it's been pulled from the market fairly quickly, which also makes you wonder. I know there are some positive logs on this board, but it really makes me wonder about this product.
Mulletsoldier said:That all arose from what PA believes TRN to be, so I would take that with a large grain of salt. PA tends to bash any product he did not come up with, and Author isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to Chem, and had his active hidden well.
SubliminalX said:What do you know about the true identity of TRN? From my readings thus far, TRN is one of two things:
(1) If it's the reported substance on the label, then it's probably worthless from a chemical standpoint.
(2) If it's a "secret" compound that works, then it's probably not legal. That explains why TRN is no longer being made AFAIK.
Author L. Rea said:Good points Lad. I hope that you will be patient with me while I discuss some points of view for everyone to consider here and I will try to give you the answers you need at the end. (Yes, I am going to babble...sorry)
Interesting points of view I can agree with in part, and I am certain that most will not like the answers any more than when we opted to not market these items back in 2005...and still don't.
MTRN and MTST were designed by ALRI and are not listed in any prior research that I am aware of, or for that matter Vida. We worked with them for several years feeling rather proud to be able to present to OTC supplement users, what we felt at the time, were far superior products with safety profiles not matched by any other like-compounds of the time.
Problem was that anything of the PH nature became a serious media mania and political issue that has seriously harmed the entire supplement industry in the US and Europe. Just because no one here would agree with it does not make it go away.
Odd, seems that if the issue were that such items will harm our children that age limits that allow cigarettes and alcohol to assumed used responsibly would somehow not do so for a supplement.
Worse is that the media up-roar was based upon pro-athletes (whom are banned from using the products) were the basis for political intervention. Hmmm, assuming this ideal is correct, all males should be concerned about mandated castration due to the desire to prevent teen premarital sex.
Point is that the issue has nothing to do with those who are simply seeking better potential for results and are NOT among the few pro-athletes.
We never released MTST but did have a some units of MTRN make their way to the US market which we recalled for the above reasons. Sucks, but true.
The terms used to define structure are no less ambiguous than the generic terms androstenedione or Cissus.
There are two sides to the issue giving the type of structural info being discussed and it was the final reason ALRI removed itself from that part of the industry last year.
1) Giving the type of nomenclature that is being discussed would allow the knock offs to begin. I am sure most do not work for free or buy a house and let someone else sell it and keep the money after paying all the bills and do all the work to get it. But if so, please LMK as I would like to get all of the free houses others willingness to work for free allows.
As an example, there is a newer attempt at knocking off the old MTRN product by KS that is no where near correct. Hard to knock off what you do not know how to create yourself. Qualified people like Patrick Arnold and Dr. D "could" easily do so, but would not due to the mutual passion for innovation such minds share. As to Catlin, no doubt he does have the structures, there was no effort to protect anything from detection. Nothing illegal to consider.
2) if you create it, you get to name it. But not sure it really matters any more, at least to ALRI, as we are out of that area of the market totally to avoid all of the negative such issues brings. We are busy developing products that work and do not include the need to deal with Balco type issues. Innovation has not died, but the knock offs will need to go elsewhere.
Of course there will be one idiot who will jump into this forum sooner or later and either post "something shady" or argue something they know nothing about as usual, but for the really great people here at AM I hope this was of some help:
There is a valid point that should be answered here, no, TST had no progestin structural relationships. It also has no testosterone metabolites and is totally detectable.
TRN was not methoxy trenbolone. Real TRN made most horny, methoxy trenbolone would be a liver killer and libido death.
Mulletsoldier said:Straight from the man's mouth bud. Now, given that information I know:
1) The nomenclature on the label was of ALR's design deliberately to ward off complete knockoffs, and IS NOT what PA thought it was. It is NOT methoxy trenbolone, plain and simple.
2)As I bolded what the man said, it is NOT illegal as it was a compound created by him.
Work said:Whatever it is it's not tren because there are no nightsweats. Anyone who has done tren or fina knows about waking up sopping wet and shivering.
My guess is it's some unknown variation of a methylated nor.
Whatever it is I like it.
SubliminalX said:Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?
Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.
SubliminalX said:Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?
Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.
SubliminalX said:Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?
Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.
Author L. Rea said:If you are refering to the GL product that was around at one time, it was correct.
Mulletsoldier said:If I am not mistaken ALRI revealed the active to GL, but did not to any other company.
12many said:I combined MTRN/HMAX/MZOL then switched to MTRN/MZOL/superdrol (currently) and have gained 29.2lbs LBM in 5weeks and 2 days into my 6 week cycle. MTRN works wonderfully for me!
idunk42 said:29lbs of LBM is 5 weeks???
I highly doubt it. Im calling BS.
12many said:Call it what you want, I have no reason to lie nor do I have anything to prove to you or anyone else. My log is "encapsulated" somewhat in another person's log. I think the post is called "Mtrn/mtst/pmax" or something like that. I won't bother to respond to this after this particular post. Best of luck to you though.