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I can't wait to see them pics too...you might give Grexx a run for his money..lol. J/P Grexx...you are one hoooyuuuge dude...and you're my idol. :bb:
 
dagecko said:
I can't wait to see them pics too...you might give Grexx a run for his money..lol. J/P Grexx...you are one hoooyuuuge dude...and you're my idol. :bb:
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actually from the stats he's given he could give grexx a run last time he posted he was at 200lbs -5% bf% so grexx in those pics is only like 20lbs heavier than him
 
Mulletsoldier said:
12, I would not get offended even you must realize that your claims have been slightly off the cuff. LBM equates to lean body mass i.e., developed lean tissue, which if I am not mistaken your body cannot create lean muscle at 6lbs a week. Sorry bro, that's not speculation or hating, that is more honest physiology. I do not doubt you have put on 30lbs by any means, however, I am sorry bro but it is a mixture of new forming muscle, water, glycogen storage, not 30lbs.


On the pictures, as Mixedup said if you are 195 @ 4% that is honestly Nationals level, and I think you would be doing everybody a favour by posting your pics.
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Exactly what Mullet said!! :bb2:
 
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There 12many, there is a natural pro that Layne Norton posted up over at BBD.com and I believe he is around your stats. Now...If you are ANYWHERE near that I dearly suggest that you start competing because you could kill it.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
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There 12many, there is a natural pro that Layne Norton posted up over at BBD.com and I believe he is around your stats. Now...If you are ANYWHERE near that I dearly suggest that you start competing because you could kill it.
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I think if he posted some pics he might even pick up some sponsors. If I remember correctly before cycle he was walking around at 4% THINK if he dieted because he was at 4% without dieting.
 
Alright, i've been away for a week and here are the current stats one week into post cycle therapy:

Stats & Info:
Beginning of cycle: 170lbs
End of cycle: 201lbs on 8/4
End of 1st week of post cycle therapy: 199lbs
Sides: ZERO, NOTTA, NONE!
The results are what they are...if there's fat on my body I welcome you to come find it.

post cycle therapy:
Aromasin: 25mg/day
Clomid: 100mg/day (dosed @ 50mg x 2)
Retain: 3caps/day
DHEA: 1 caplet
All ancillaries (hawthorne, b6, b12, VitC, VitE, garlic, niacin, ryr, fish oil, coq10 etc etc)

*** I have discovered that Nolva is a terrible choice for post cycle therapy for an superdrol and/or PP cycle (personal experience). I believe it actually causes gyno rather than prevents it. Once again, this is personal experience ***

I've also noticed that Clomid gives me evil headaches when dosed 100mg @ 1x per day. So, I do 50mg in the morning and another 50mg at my noon lunch.

Got my bloodwork results back yesterday and all is FINE. The bloodwork was completed 1 day after cycle end. Other than T level being lower than normal ALL other items are IN RANGE.

The 6-week "Morphing Insanity Stack" that I completed went as follows:

wks 1&2:
MTRN: 6mg/day (dosed 3x/day, morn/noon/pre-wo)
MTST: 6mg/day (dosed same as MTRN above)
HMAX: 50mg/day (dosed 2x/day, morn/pre-wo)
MZOL: 150mg/day (dosed 3x/day, morn/noon/pre-wo)
Letro: .25mg/day
**MTST determined to be garbage for me and dropped after week 2***

wks 3&4:
MTRN: 6mg/day (dosed 3x/day, morn/noon/pre-wo)
HMAX: 50mg/day (dosed 2x/day, morn/pre-wo)
MZOL: 150mg/day (dosed 3x/day, morn/noon/pre-wo)
Superdrol: 10mg/day (dosed 1x/day, pre-wo, WEEK 4 ONLY)
Letro: .25mg/day
Thryrotabs: 3tablets/day
***The 17aa methyls (HMAX and superdrol) were only overlapped on Week 4***

wks 5&6:
MTRN: 6mg/day (dosed 3x/day, morn/noon/pre-wo)
MZOL: 200mg/day (dosed 3x/day, morn/noon/pre-wo)
Superdrol: 20mg/day (dosed 1x/day, pre-wo, WEEK 4 ONLY)
Letro: .25mg/day
Thryrotabs: 3tablets/day

Protein: 325g/day minimum
Calories: 3500 to 4000/day
Diet: logged and VERY detailed; VERY CLEAN ZERO CHEATS!

The last 2 weeks of this cycle were INSANE. The superdrol/MZOL/MTRN/TTabs are one HELLUVA good stack!

TTabs are great and become most effective 3 to 4 weeks after starting them. On a few instances, I accidentally took 4tablets in a day rather than the recommended 3. I had NO PROBLEMS, but I wouldn't recommend trying this.

MTRN is the best single oral for me. It is great for giving you an alpha-male big **** demeanor ;)

Next 6-week cycle "probably":
PP: 20/20/20/20/0/0
HMAX: 0/0/50/50/75/75
MTRN: 6/6/6/6/6/6
MZOL: 150/150/150/150/150/150
NOTE: The liver is T304 Stainless Steel

And, YES, I have pics. I need to find out how to "make my face disappear" from them, as I have a very professional job and DO NOT want identifying info posted on the net. I also have to figure out how to post the damn things.

~12many~ already ready for the next cycle ;)
 
12many said:
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And, YES, I have pics. I need to find out how to "make my face disappear" from them, as I have a very professional job and DO NOT want identifying info posted on the net. I also have to figure out how to post the damn things.

~12many~ already ready for the next cycle ;)
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12many just use ms paint and cut your face out like i do with the pics I post. and you just click the paperclip above and hit browse and then add them from your computer files. So have you seen grexx pics I'm assuming you must look pretty close to what he looks like based on your height weight and bf% right. Can't wait. BTW glad your bloodwork came back good. Once again great cycle and great job. I wish i had your metabolism and genes.
 
Will do, mixedup.

Got bored, feel far too good, bloodwork was unchanged after 6 weeks. "Things" taunted me too long.

Started another new cycle after 1week of post cycle therapy. I'm waiting, now, for the b1tching to begin....drum roll.....let the flaming begin!

PP: 20mg/day (dosed morn/pre-wo): weeks 1-4

MTRN: 6mg/day (dosed morn/noon/pre-wo): weeks 1-6

MZOL: 150mg/day (dosed morn/noon/pre-wo): weeks 1-6 (will up to 200mg/day on weeks 5 & 6)

HMAX: 50mg/day (dosed morn/pre-wo): weeks 3-6 (will up to 75mg/day weeks 5 & 6)

MTST: 6mg/day (dosed morn/noon/pre-wo): weeks 1-6
This is the last shot for MTST. I have a lot laying around, so I'm trying it with the PP/MTRN combo to see if it miraculously does something, other than kill me ;)

Methylated 17aa compounds (PP and HMAX) are only overlapped on weeks 3 & 4, no biggie, I proved this wasn't a big deal last cycle.

All ancillaries have been in place 100% since 1.5 months prior to my previous cycle. I'm feeling good, looking good, going for more.

Peace out.....
~12many~
**This is your life & it's ending 1 minute at a time**
 
I won't ***** at you, but your bloodwork already shows lower then normal T and jumping right back on is not really going to give you the results you seek. I'm willing to bet you will have worse sides and a lot less results! You would have done better extending your original cycle a couple weeks, but hey it's your body! JMO
 
Basso said:
I won't ***** at you, but your bloodwork already shows lower then normal T and jumping right back on is not really going to give you the results you seek. I'm willing to bet you will have worse sides and a lot less results! You would have done better extending your original cycle a couple weeks, but hey it's your body! JMO
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Basso, at the start of the last cycle, my T-level was around 105x; my result came back in the 75x range. I really don't think that's bad at all, considering. Maybe I wasn't very clear; below "my" average but not BAD. Sorry for not being clear.
 
Whatever works for you 12many I'm just dying to see those pics. So you didn't answer my question though I'm thinking you must be in about grexx shape just 20lbs lighter and he just took 2nd place at nationals at 224 same bf% you are at. You should step onstage. Also i'm not sure about your very professional job but you are not doing anything illegal so I don't know why you would be worried I don't think your going to be able to hide 200lbs 5% body fat anyway since you have got to look like the cover of one of the muscle magazines
 
mixedup said:
Whatever works for you 12many I'm just dying to see those pics. So you didn't answer my question though I'm thinking you must be in about grexx shape just 20lbs lighter and he just took 2nd place at nationals at 224 same bf% you are at. You should step onstage. Also i'm not sure about your very professional job but you are not doing anything illegal so I don't know why you would be worried I don't think your going to be able to hide 200lbs 5% body fat anyway since you have got to look like the cover of one of the muscle magazines
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Not to be cynical but he started out at 170 but had prior AAS experience???
12many said:
*** I have discovered that Nolva is a terrible choice for post cycle therapy for an superdrol and/or PP cycle (personal experience). I believe it actually causes gyno rather than prevents it. Once again, this is personal experience ***
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Then gained 30 pounds of lean mass...hard to believe. If he was so experienced with steroids, why did he start this cycle weighing in at 170!?!?

I hate to do it but I call BS
 
MattHines said:
Not to be cynical but he started out at 170 but had prior anabolic steroids experience???

Then gained 30 pounds of lean mass...hard to believe. If he was so experienced with steroids, why did he start this cycle weighing in at 170!?!?

I hate to do it but I call BS
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Well I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he can posts pics up but it has been awhile now and lots of us are stil waiting. I think he may be confusing lbm with glycogen retention as glycogen retention from what i understand is water inside the muscle cells so you won't get that bloated look or go up in bf% I think he may be under the assumption that since he has not gone up in body fat and does not look bloated that it's not "water weight"

As mullet said i don't doubt either that he could of gained 30lb and it may look like lbm but from the many studies i as well as other on this board have read it is not possible to put on 6lbs of real lbm a week A body is not capable of that. I'm sure his best friend who is a doctor could probally quote some documented case studies stating this fact.
ALso i don't doubt he is very low in bf% but unless he used a dunk tank the percentage he is quoting could be off by a couple percent. even though he was tested by a doctor everybody is human and calipers are not "EXACT" Once again this would not be his fault as he was quoting the bf% told to him by his doctor. But i believe the AMA states that staying at 5% or below bf% is not healthy for extended periods of time So I'm sure his physican took in account the chance for error on bf% as I doubt he would advise him to stay at 4% body fat knowing guidelines show that percent to be unhealthy.


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mixedup said:
Well I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt if he can posts pics up but it has been awhile now and lots of us are stil waiting. I think he may be confusing lbm with glycogen retention as glycogen retention from what i understand is water inside the muscle cells so you won't get that bloated look or go up in bf% I think he may be under the assumption that since he has not gone up in body fat and does not look bloated that it's not "water weight"

As mullet said i don't doubt either that he could of gained 30lb and it may look like lbm but from the many studies i as well as other on this board have read it is not possible to put on 6lbs of real lbm a week A body is not capable of that. I'm sure his best friend who is a doctor could probally quote some documented case studies stating this fact.
ALso i don't doubt he is very low in bf% but unless he used a dunk tank the percentage he is quoting could be off by a couple percent. even though he was tested by a doctor everybody is human and calipers are not "EXACT" Once again this would not be his fault as he was quoting the bf% told to him by his doctor. But i believe the AMA states that staying at 5% or below bf% is not healthy for extended periods of time So I'm sure his physican took in account the chance for error on bf% as I doubt he would advise him to stay at 4% body fat knowing guidelines show that percent to be unhealthy.


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This is all assuming that what he says is true. Glycogen storage could account for the weight gain but if a good portion of the 30 pounds was glycogen, we would have seen his weight go down a lot while he was in PCT.

Given 30 pounds in 6 weeks is POSSIBLE, it is not PROBABLE as he was taking the thyrotabs while on SD (the strongest of the compounds he ran). If we really wanted to do the math, we could figure out how many calories per day he would have had to have eaten to gain 30 pounds. I would rather just see the pics!

12many--if you say that you don't know how to post them or take a way the face, send them to me and I will do both of those for you!
 
Matt: Yes ofcourse that is why i am awaiting the pics and giving him the benefit of the doubt until I see them . Hopefully he is posting the soon since it has been another 3 days since I gave him instructions on how to remove his face and he replied that he would do it.

12many. From your posts it appears you are a very inteligent person so I'm sure it won't be a problem for you to follow the directions I gave you on posting pics. I saw you posted on here the day after I gave you instructions but still no pics?? Just wondering you have said you have the pics and you know how to post them why dont' you just post them and stop all the speculating and questions.

As I'm sure you can tell from my previous posts I have been one of your biggest supporters on the board and given you the benefit of the doubt even when your gains have been so great but even I must become a little sceptical as I pointed out you say you have pics but don't post them even after I gave you instructions?
 
Hey 12many saw you on the board yesterday posting about your latest cycle when you gonna post the pics?? It's been another 5 days I was hoping they'd be up now since you have been on the board posting in other threads.
 
Hey basso 2% bf drop in 1.5 months your doing great. as for 12many i wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt as I do everyone but I just saw him post last night how he is up 3.4lbs on 5 days on his new cycle and he answered any of the questions I asked him on or posted pics after he stated he already had them so..............
 
mixedup said:
Hey basso 2% bf drop in 1.5 months your doing great. as for 12many i wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt as I do everyone but I just saw him post last night how he is up 3.4lbs on 5 days on his new cycle and he answered any of the questions I asked him on or posted pics after he stated he already had them so..............
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Yeh I guess that explains a lot eh? He'll probably put another 30lbs on this cycle also, by the end of the year he'll be 250lbs ripped, lol
 
Basso said:
Yeh I guess that explains a lot eh? He'll probably put another 30lbs on this cycle also, by the end of the year he'll be 250lbs ripped, lol
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LOL...bump to that.

Didnt this guy just finish that insane Hdol/SD/Thyrotabs cycle???

His body has gotta be damaged terribly and he's already jumping back on cycle!?!?

Genius!!!!!
 
LOL.....yes, terrible condition. Pre and post bloodwork is perfect. Post cycle results showed 2 to 3 % change from pre-cycle. Test dropped from 1050-ish to somewhere in the 800-ish range...can't remember the exact number. Best friend, an ER doctor, and ROOMMATE, says I'm in TOP shape. Sorry for the haters; I was hoping to finish this current cycle then post results if I were to make my goal of 220...which may or may not happen...but whatever...last time i'll post here anyway....

Best stack yet:
SD: 20mg/day
HMAX: 75mg/day
MTRN: 6mg/day
MZOL: 200mg/day

Later bye....
 
Dude - calm down.

We poke and prod each other around here. Some of us come across strongly.

Don't take it seriously man.
Otherwise, you'll be getting all up tight and sh*t when I say I want to lick your pecs - you big sexy man. (Said with a lisp...) :food:
 
12many said:
Sorry for the haters; I was hoping to finish this current cycle then post results if I were to make my goal of 220...which may or may not happen...but whatever...last time i'll post here anyway....
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Haters?? I don't think so. Skeptics?? Absolutely.

12many: Let's be honest... if someone else on this forum, someone completely unknown to you, were too make the same claims that you are making, YOU would be skeptical too! It's nothing personal, so don't take offense. However, you completely undermine your credibility when you say you have pics and then you never post them. Why don't you silence all the "haters" and post some pics of this incredible physique of yours?
 
12many said:
LOL.....yes, terrible condition. Pre and post bloodwork is perfect. Post cycle results showed 2 to 3 % change from pre-cycle. Test dropped from 1050-ish to somewhere in the 800-ish range...can't remember the exact number. Best friend, an ER doctor, and ROOMMATE, says I'm in TOP shape. Sorry for the haters; I was hoping to finish this current cycle then post results if I were to make my goal of 220...which may or may not happen...but whatever...last time i'll post here anyway....

Best stack yet:
superdrol: 20mg/day
HMAX: 75mg/day
MTRN: 6mg/day
MZOL: 200mg/day

Later bye....
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UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH what happend to the PICS??????????????????? all you had to do to stop the haters is post the pics you told us you had>> btw alot of people here supported you and gave you the benefit of the doubt myself included but after telling us for over 2 weeks you were going to posts pics and not doing it don't you think we have reason to be skeptical.
I mean lets go over the time line on 8/10 you say you have the pics on 8/11 we give you directions to posting the pics you reply you will post them your on here 3 times since that date never post pics and then say the board is HATING :wtf: You are the one who didn't keep your word.


BTW reasons why we are skeptical below are findings from EXPERTS in the FIELD

The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that “because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day.” In non-complicated, mathematical terms, this would equate to roughly 23 pounds in a year! Keep in mind that high-level athletes are the subjects of these studies.

Keep in mind that it’s physiologically impossible to gain more than one pound of lean muscle per week. For most weight-gainers, .5 pounds per week would be an even more realistic goal as they reach their genetic limit. Remember that gaining muscle is a long-term project and not something that can be simply turned on. If you’re dedicated and diligent in your efforts, you’ll not be disappointed!

Written by, Maki Riddington


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Maki Riddington is a CPT Body Recomposition and Strength and Conditoning Specialist based in Vancouver British Columbia. For more info go to Invalid Link Removed

So even though your ROOMATE is an ER doctor. YOU are claiming your body is doing 5x what is supposed to be physically possible backed up my research done on some of the top athletes in the world. 30lbs of lbm in 6 weeks = 5lbs lbm a week. even if the anabolics gave you a 300% advantage your still claiming gains in excess of the above studies.
 
Werewolf said:
mixedup said:
Keep in mind that it’s physiologically impossible to gain more than one pound of lean muscle per week.

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Very funny. I LOL
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I'm not sure why that is funny? I'm sure there are exceptions as the quote did state
Keep in mind that it’s physiologically impossible to gain more than one pound of lean muscle per week. For most weight-gainers,

But as I am not an expert and the people i quoted are much more experienced and have studied this subject in depth with many people I will have to defer to them. I also think they may be talking about pure muscle cells not weight gain from glycogen storage, water, fat or any other type of weight

Dr Colgan goes on to state that “because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day.”
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I would tend to agree with the study but natty, once you put AAS in the the equation it changes things considerably! A first cycle can slap a years worth of muscle on in less than 3 months! If done properly.
 
Basso said:
I would tend to agree with the study but natty, once you put anabolic steroids in the the equation it changes things considerably! A first cycle can slap a years worth of muscle on in less than 3 months! If done properly.
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BASSO I agree with you that a 1st cycle can slap on a whole lot of muscle, but even with the induction of the anabolic steroids I think it's going to be rare to find someone who puts on 52lbs (1lb per week x 52 weeks) and if they do there is no way they are going to come close to that the following year. I mean otherwise people would be ronnie coleman size in 2 years of starting gear.

I mean take my favorite pro eryk bui it tooks him 2years just to go from 170lbs to 200lbs that only 15lbs of muscle a year and all he does is bodybuilding.

I just wanted to put up some studies to show how crazy 12many saying he went from 170lbs to 202lbs in 6 weeks is from a scientific stand point. especially with no increase in bf% or water weight.
 
I dont understand why this is such a hard concept for yall to grasp. Like has been said, if what he was saying was truth, we would see pics. And also, if what he said was true, he oughto be competing and he should be bigger than ronnie within a couple years so watch out ronnie and jay!

Hes obviously full of ****.
 
mixedup said:
I just wanted to put up some studies to show how crazy 12many saying he went from 170lbs to 202lbs in 6 weeks is from a scientific stand point. especially with no increase in bf% or water weight.
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you're right - that is 100% impossible. beyond impossible actually - that is completely ridiculous.
 
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