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Mega (Methoxy) TRN

I think I just figured out my next stack Mega trn and Methoxy TST just got an e-mail telling me about the presale . I wonder how you can compare it to the infamous test -tren cycle (injectable )?
 
Lithuanian Bear said:
I think I just figured out my next stack Mega trn and Methoxy TST just got an e-mail telling me about the presale . I wonder how you can compare it to the infamous test -tren cycle (injectable )?
In all likelihood... YES Because that's why & how ALRI designed these compounds...
 
raider1 said:
Yeh I agree there.. Emax and Prostanozol is a great stack.. save the TRN for another cycle .. believe me you will have excellent results from Emax.. :twisted:

for me, getting up to the 3500 mark on calories could be hard. My appetite is never that great! I may need to switch from muscle milk to a weight gainer.. I can save the TRN, but have nothing else to stack it w/ on a later date. You think it may be good solo? Also, what kind of results did you have w/ the Emax?
 
It would be great as a solo, works very well with Prostanazol..or a good CEE.. I did a cycle of this early summer last year , right as softball was starting and 3 weeks later guys in the league were noticing the size increase :twisted:
I did a 5 week cycle of this of this and put on almost 10lbs..very hard to do during the summer... oh , and the increase in libido was a great effect also :twisted:
 
but , TRN from Generic Labz was awesome also:twisted: ,and not a methyl product :study: ... I am very worried a great product like TRN will go away .. but hopefully everything will subside..
 
thanks for the good/inspiring news! I'll hold off on the TRN until probably the fall. I like to give myself about 4-5 months between cycles.

By then, I may have the TST to run w/ the TRN for $hits & giggles...:hammer:
 
Public Notice: In 30 Days Notice. Effective May 12th 2006 Generic Labz will no longer sell or produce any Pro-Hormone Type products.

raider1 said:
It would be great as a solo, works very well with Prostanazol..or a good CEE.. I did a cycle of this early summer last year , right as softball was starting and 3 weeks later guys in the league were noticing the size increase :twisted:
I did a 5 week cycle of this of this and put on almost 10lbs..very hard to do during the summer... oh , and the increase in libido was a great effect also :twisted:
 
kappaz said:
Public Notice: In 30 Days Notice. Effective May 12th 2006 Generic Labz will no longer sell or produce any Pro-Hormone Type products.
Hopefully that means the stores will still carry the line for a bit?
 
How would cardio be while on trn and halodrol? Would the pumps be too painful to run like on SD? Anyone have any experience with this?
 
I really don't see any problem myself. I ran 4 weeks with the original TRN from ALR* and added halo for the last 10 days. No superdrol pumps at all. The results were only so-so. I also ran a 4 week of plain halo with no sides and was impressed. Not like I was with SD but halo was a good cutter.
 
Anyone know of the liver toxicity of this or if it is liver toxic at all. I just do not want a repeat of the bloodwork I had after an M1T cycle
 
Does anybody have any estimations of what the equivilent dose would be for someone who would normaly run tren ace at 50, 75, and 100 mgs per day say for example?

Also has this been banned by the fda? I am not a us bro so am not up to speed with things so if anyone would like to very briefly explain it would help a great deal.

Much thanks
 
jmh80 said:
I've not had any issues with TST and TRN while doing cardio.

Jmh80, another question, it seems like you have used Halodrol and Mthoxy-tst/mega-trn. Which of the two do you thing would be better for mass gains? Each time I do research on one product I find out another product
 
I've not tried H-50.
I've got 2 friends that are using H-50 for their bodybuilding show. They really like on a diet. They've maintained muscle at only 1600 cals/day these last 2 weeks (the show is next Saturday).

I'm not really sure which is better. If I were to go with TST, I'd bump the dose to 6 mgs at least. I didn't feel much from it at 4 mgs (it might need 8 for all I know).
 
have some fun with this:
m-tst 4-6 mgs/day for 4 weeks
m-trn 4-6 mgs/day same
mega-zol 150-200 mgs/day same
 
grexx said:
have some fun with this:
m-tst 4-6 mgs/day for 4 weeks
m-trn 4-6 mgs/day same
mega-zol 150-200 mgs/day same

Hey Grexx nice pics on your profile. I got a questrion for you, the thigs you listed above (M-tst, M-trn and Mega-zol) in comparison to Halodrol 50 which one do you think has less side effects and better results or would you rate them about the same?

Thanks.

Shakira
 
Sharia said:
Hey Grexx nice pics on your profile. I got a questrion for you, the thigs you listed above (M-tst, M-trn and Mega-zol) in comparison to Halodrol 50 which one do you think has less side effects and better results or would you rate them about the same?

Thanks.

Shakira

I forgot to add, my goal is to gain size and mass. Right now I weigh 230 Pounds at 6'5" and my goal is to get to 245 pounds
 
H-50 would be the better choice.
1 chemical as opposed to 3.... plus, the vast majority of users are reporting NO sides from Haladrol. You could probably acheive the same result from a 30 day H-50 cycle (mass wise) as you could from a combination.
With the longer durration "on cycle" using TST/TRN/ZOL supression, sides, health issues (such a HDL/LDL and the lot) would become more exagerated.

Not saying that a TST/TRN/ZOL cycle is bad in any way- but I think you can put on just as much beef with the one (h-50) as the other in a shorter amount of time and less health risk,.. not to mention for a cheaper total price.

just my 0.02
 
LO AND BEHOLD GREXX IS BACK!!! Grexx that sounds like a solid stck, bro what you been up too since MTV no AM (jk) i know being a student, and travelling makes it hard esp since GL is restructuring the company's products. I tried Methaxy TRN and it was hella hard on my BP for some reason, and for 4 weeks got great hardness, I think more or less next time i would use it as a bulker...
 
grexx said:
have some fun with this:
m-tst 4-6 mgs/day for 4 weeks
m-trn 4-6 mgs/day same
mega-zol 150-200 mgs/day same

Hey Grexx or anyone else, while I was doing some research I cam accross X-Mass as a weight gainer. Can anyone tell me which one is better of the two, Halodrol 50 or X-mass?

Thanks
 
Sharia said:
Hey Grexx or anyone else, while I was doing some research I cam accross X-Mass as a weight gainer. Can anyone tell me which one is better of the two, Halodrol 50 or X-mass?

Thanks

Some people get really good results from X-Mass/LMG . I've seen logs go as high as 17lbs. H-50, first time steroid use maybe 15lbs.
Therotically, you COULD stack the 2. But if you dont dabble much in anabolics, Id stick with one.
On avarage, you can expect a nice 10lbs on ANY of the currently available orals. As far as weight gains go, Ive seen no bennifit in combining them simultaniously. This would go with SD and PP also,.. look at the logs, every once in a while, a 15lbs gain is seen, most of the time around 10 though. And when combined, the result overall isnt what you would get running them independantly in 2 seperat cycles
 
I can speak to the fact that Xmass/PP got me 15lbs on a lean bulk in 4 weeks. It was a wet bulk as well. It was smoother than superdrol with no sides for me. No back pumps or shin splint problem or dry joints. Don't place a lot of weight on my dosing as my programs have always been ones that required higher than others in most things. But like I said it was a research stack more so. Dosage is always stepped as it goes. The program started Xmass @ 40 and AX_PP at @ 20mg. In the third week X was @ 80. In the forth week it was X @ 120 and PP @ 30. No sides to report. Having done that I beleive I would run the experiment again with X @ 80 and PP @ 30 with an AI for 4 weeks, things did slow down at that point. Saw no point in running any higher. But this is me and not to be interpreted as advice, only my research results. I felt the research was a success and learned alot.

I hope this helped shed some light in at least one dark recess somewhere. If not nevermind....

Thank you - Rosanne Rosanna Dana
 
I can't speak for everyone or for everything that is out there, but H-50 was awesome for me! It was by far one of my favorite orals I have tried. It had literally no sides for me, and gave me very good strength gains, awesome pumps, and some great recomposition. I gained a lot of weight on it also. Tried PP for 2 weeks, but stopped because I noticed a lot of shedding going on, and I can't have that. Tried M-TRN for 2 weeks, but stopped going into week 3 because I was getting the high BP sides( but I was at 6mgs a day). I will give it another fair run but start lower, and see how that goes for 4-6 wks. As for X-Mass or H-50 and which one to use.....never used X-mass but due to it being a wet compound, might give you more "weight" gain. H-50 might give you less in terms of overall lbs, but will have more qualatative gains. So if it's all out bulk you want, then MAYBE X-Mass would be better, but again I have not used X-mass just going by what I've read on it from others. Hope this might help you a bit more. ANy one else with some X-mass experience care to chime in?
 
While I dont think stacking is necessesary in this case, I really dont see a problem with stacking the 2, running X-MASS for maybe 3 weeks then H-50 for 3 weeks after ,maybe the 1 trasision week.
Just wanted to say that the possibility is feasable, but I dont think its necessesary.
You would probably get more out of 2 independent cycles.
 
xtraflossy said:
While I dont think stacking is necessesary in this case, I really dont see a problem with stacking the 2, running X-MASS for maybe 3 weeks then H-50 for 3 weeks after ,maybe the 1 trasision week.
Just wanted to say that the possibility is feasable, but I dont think its necessesary.
You would probably get more out of 2 independent cycles.


I think I am going to agree with you on this one xtraflossy:thumbsup:
 
xtraflossy said:
While I dont think stacking is necessesary in this case, I really dont see a problem with stacking the 2, running X-MASS for maybe 3 weeks then H-50 for 3 weeks after ,maybe the 1 trasision week.
Just wanted to say that the possibility is feasable, but I dont think its necessesary.
You would probably get more out of 2 independent cycles.

From hamper19's log of MAX LMG & SD which is the only one that I know of, the combo of X-MASS & Halodrol seems extremely attractive. It all depends how experienced you are and how difficult the gains are for you.
 
Just wanted to bump this for a question.

I read elsewhere that the reported chemical structure of Mega-TRN is such that it likely has zero bioavailability.

And it's been pulled from the market fairly quickly, which also makes you wonder. I know there are some positive logs on this board, but it really makes me wonder about this product.
 
SubliminalX said:
Just wanted to bump this for a question.

I read elsewhere that the reported chemical structure of Mega-TRN is such that it likely has zero bioavailability.

And it's been pulled from the market fairly quickly, which also makes you wonder. I know there are some positive logs on this board, but it really makes me wonder about this product.

That all arose from what PA believes TRN to be, so I would take that with a large grain of salt. PA tends to bash any product he did not come up with, and Author isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to Chem, and had his active hidden well.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
That all arose from what PA believes TRN to be, so I would take that with a large grain of salt. PA tends to bash any product he did not come up with, and Author isn't exactly a slouch when it comes to Chem, and had his active hidden well.

What do you know about the true identity of TRN? From my readings thus far, TRN is one of two things:

(1) If it's the reported substance on the label, then it's probably worthless from a chemical standpoint.

(2) If it's a "secret" compound that works, then it's probably not legal. That explains why TRN is no longer being made AFAIK.
 
SubliminalX said:
What do you know about the true identity of TRN? From my readings thus far, TRN is one of two things:

(1) If it's the reported substance on the label, then it's probably worthless from a chemical standpoint.

(2) If it's a "secret" compound that works, then it's probably not legal. That explains why TRN is no longer being made AFAIK.


Author L. Rea said:
Good points Lad. I hope that you will be patient with me while I discuss some points of view for everyone to consider here and I will try to give you the answers you need at the end. (Yes, I am going to babble...sorry)

Interesting points of view I can agree with in part, and I am certain that most will not like the answers any more than when we opted to not market these items back in 2005...and still don't.

MTRN and MTST were designed by ALRI and are not listed in any prior research that I am aware of, or for that matter Vida. We worked with them for several years feeling rather proud to be able to present to OTC supplement users, what we felt at the time, were far superior products with safety profiles not matched by any other like-compounds of the time.

Problem was that anything of the PH nature became a serious media mania and political issue that has seriously harmed the entire supplement industry in the US and Europe. Just because no one here would agree with it does not make it go away.

Odd, seems that if the issue were that such items will harm our children that age limits that allow cigarettes and alcohol to assumed used responsibly would somehow not do so for a supplement.

Worse is that the media up-roar was based upon pro-athletes (whom are banned from using the products) were the basis for political intervention. Hmmm, assuming this ideal is correct, all males should be concerned about mandated castration due to the desire to prevent teen premarital sex.

Point is that the issue has nothing to do with those who are simply seeking better potential for results and are NOT among the few pro-athletes.

We never released MTST but did have a some units of MTRN make their way to the US market which we recalled for the above reasons. Sucks, but true.

The terms used to define structure are no less ambiguous than the generic terms androstenedione or Cissus.

There are two sides to the issue giving the type of structural info being discussed and it was the final reason ALRI removed itself from that part of the industry last year.

1) Giving the type of nomenclature that is being discussed would allow the knock offs to begin. I am sure most do not work for free or buy a house and let someone else sell it and keep the money after paying all the bills and do all the work to get it. But if so, please LMK as I would like to get all of the free houses others willingness to work for free allows.

As an example, there is a newer attempt at knocking off the old MTRN product by KS that is no where near correct. Hard to knock off what you do not know how to create yourself. Qualified people like Patrick Arnold and Dr. D "could" easily do so, but would not due to the mutual passion for innovation such minds share. As to Catlin, no doubt he does have the structures, there was no effort to protect anything from detection. Nothing illegal to consider.

2) if you create it, you get to name it. But not sure it really matters any more, at least to ALRI, as we are out of that area of the market totally to avoid all of the negative such issues brings. We are busy developing products that work and do not include the need to deal with Balco type issues. Innovation has not died, but the knock offs will need to go elsewhere.

Of course there will be one idiot who will jump into this forum sooner or later and either post "something shady" or argue something they know nothing about as usual, but for the really great people here at AM I hope this was of some help:

There is a valid point that should be answered here, no, TST had no progestin structural relationships. It also has no testosterone metabolites and is totally detectable.

TRN was not methoxy trenbolone. Real TRN made most horny, methoxy trenbolone would be a liver killer and libido death.

Straight from the man's mouth bud. Now, given that information I know:

1) The nomenclature on the label was of ALR's design deliberately to ward off complete knockoffs, and IS NOT what PA thought it was. It is NOT methoxy trenbolone, plain and simple.

2)As I bolded what the man said, it is NOT illegal as it was a compound created by him.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Straight from the man's mouth bud. Now, given that information I know:

1) The nomenclature on the label was of ALR's design deliberately to ward off complete knockoffs, and IS NOT what PA thought it was. It is NOT methoxy trenbolone, plain and simple.

2)As I bolded what the man said, it is NOT illegal as it was a compound created by him.

Good man. Of course ALR won't do anything but claim that it's legal. I mean, who openly admits to breaking the law?

Now that the GL TRN is no longer being made, what do you think about the knock-offs like trenadrol, etc? Not like the original? I mean, some of this must have been analyzed by GC/MS if there was no attempt to hide what's in the original TRN formula.
 
My only real question to this, is if it isnt methoxy tren then does it have the same attributes as tren? I love alri products and i love tren, didnt care for test but i dont like the fact that its not methoxy tren and yet we arent given an idea to what it is, UNLESS ive missed something.

Like i said i love alri products, but now i feel like ive been putting a pill in my mouth i thought was one thing, to find out now that its not. :study:
 
Whatever it is it's not tren because there are no nightsweats. Anyone who has done tren or fina knows about waking up sopping wet and shivering.
My guess is it's some unknown variation of a methylated nor.
Whatever it is I like it.
 
Work said:
Whatever it is it's not tren because there are no nightsweats. Anyone who has done tren or fina knows about waking up sopping wet and shivering.
My guess is it's some unknown variation of a methylated nor.
Whatever it is I like it.

Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?

Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.
 
SubliminalX said:
Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?

Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.

If I am not mistaken ALRI revealed the active to GL, but did not to any other company.
 
SubliminalX said:
Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?

Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.

I should qualify this by saying I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, just blind speculation.
 
SubliminalX said:
Nor? As in Nortest, aka Nandrolone? I'm now wondering how GL knew what was in the original ALRI formula, in order to produce their own line. Because, if no one knows what ALRI really made, then what the heck is in Mega-TRN, Trenadrol, etc?

Sometimes consumer faith in supplement companies runs a little too blindly. And I'm guilty of that too.

EDit found the post here it is

Author L. Rea said:
If you are refering to the GL product that was around at one time, it was correct.
 
I have used both the ALRI Methoxy-TRN and the GL MTRN on a couple of occasions. I can attest based upon my experience from both that that I believe the two compounds are 100% identical. I respond the MTRN very well. I have had zero sides taking it @ 6mg/day for 6weeks and vote Methoxy-TRN/MTRN to be the GOD of oral supplementation!
 
I ran the mega TRN for 4 weeks at 6mg a day, and didnt get anything out of it. Gained maybe 3 or 4lbs, if that.

I am currently on tren e, and TRN does not even compare to the real thing.
 
I combined MTRN/HMAX/MZOL then switched to MTRN/MZOL/SD (currently) and have gained 29.2lbs LBM in 5weeks and 2 days into my 6 week cycle. MTRN works wonderfully for me!
 
12many said:
I combined MTRN/HMAX/MZOL then switched to MTRN/MZOL/superdrol (currently) and have gained 29.2lbs LBM in 5weeks and 2 days into my 6 week cycle. MTRN works wonderfully for me!

29lbs of LBM is 5 weeks???

I highly doubt it. Im calling BS.
 
idunk42 said:
29lbs of LBM is 5 weeks???

I highly doubt it. Im calling BS.

Call it what you want, I have no reason to lie nor do I have anything to prove to you or anyone else. My log is "encapsulated" somewhat in another person's log. I think the post is called "Mtrn/mtst/pmax" or something like that. I won't bother to respond to this after this particular post. Best of luck to you though.
 
Hey 12many did you get those pics taken this weekend any update when you might post them I know in the other thread there is a ALOT of people who can't wait to see you at 195 and 4% BF SERIOUSLLY MAN that is national competition level status. If you do decide to compete i'm routing for you.
 
12many said:
Call it what you want, I have no reason to lie nor do I have anything to prove to you or anyone else. My log is "encapsulated" somewhat in another person's log. I think the post is called "Mtrn/mtst/pmax" or something like that. I won't bother to respond to this after this particular post. Best of luck to you though.

12, I would not get offended even you must realize that your claims have been slightly off the cuff. LBM equates to lean body mass i.e., developed lean tissue, which if I am not mistaken your body cannot create lean muscle at 6lbs a week. Sorry bro, that's not speculation or hating, that is more honest physiology. I do not doubt you have put on 30lbs by any means, however, I am sorry bro but it is a mixture of new forming muscle, water, glycogen storage, not 30lbs.


On the pictures, as Mixedup said if you are 195 @ 4% that is honestly Nationals level, and I think you would be doing everybody a favour by posting your pics.
 
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