May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. GMG760's Mdrol cycle

So, much to my dismay, my nips have been tender for the last few days. I really wanted to believe that I was just imagining it, but I kept doing "gyno tests" on myself, checking the nips out and feeling around. They puffed up a little a few nights ago... but were fine in the morning. I had thought that I was just imagining things.

Until last night. I was going to bed and I decided to flex in the mirror. my left pec seemed to have a bit more bodyfat on it than I thought it normally would... so once again back to the gyno testing. Sure enough, I raised my arm to the roof and on the upper side of my nipple there was a visible bump, it was soft, I couldn't feel it when I touched it, but the upper half of my nip was swollen and the bottom half wasn't, which made me realize the superdrol is giving me gyno.

I dosed Tamox at 20mg last night to see if it would help. All of the puffiness went down, and the "lump" or swollen part of my nip got smaller.

Now here is where I am at... Do I dose my Mdrol for the rest of the week along with nolva at night and see what happens to finish out my next two workouts (my second week)... or should i just start PCT now and perhaps up my nolva dose to 40mg...

F*ck.

This really makes me wonder about my TRN and Phera that i own and if I want to run them now...

Oh well, if I have to stop now, that means my Hdrol/Feraguno/1T is that much closer... lol.

Any advice guys? Can Nolva remedy my problem while i stay on cycle? I know that I am pushing my luck but... damn it...
 
Don't try and combat gyno on cycle with SD cos know one really knows exactly what type of gyno it is. Best bet is too call it a day and do a mini PCT. I think you will just regret it otherwise. I know i did (with phera).
 
Australian made said:
Don't try and combat gyno on cycle with SD cos know one really knows exactly what type of gyno it is. Best bet is too call it a day and do a mini PCT. I think you will just regret it otherwise. I know i did (with phera).
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Yea I was just speaking to Timber over the phone about the same thing.

I'm done. Oh well, Superdrol isn't for me.
 
doh, another brother has fallen!

Sorry G! but, you've been making excellent gains lately anyways!
 
GMG760 said:
I dosed Tamox at 20mg last night to see if it would help. All of the puffiness went down, and the "lump" or swollen part of my nip got smaller.

Now here is where I am at... Do I dose my Mdrol for the rest of the week along with nolva at night and see what happens to finish out my next two workouts (my second week)... or should i just start PCT now and perhaps up my nolva dose to 40mg...

F*ck.

This really makes me wonder about my TRN and Phera that i own and if I want to run them now...

Oh well, if I have to stop now, that means my Hdrol/Feraguno/1T is that much closer... lol.

Any advice guys? Can Nolva remedy my problem while i stay on cycle? I know that I am pushing my luck but... damn it...
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I've heard of guys running nolva for a few days while continuing on with their cycle...I would bet that dosing novla for a few days at 20mg would allow you to wrap up your last week or so. I can't advise this, but I'm sure there are more experienced people on the board to offer more advice.
 
Yea Australian, you are right, this cycle wasn't a loss. I broke 200lbs... in like 5 days lol... man this stuff makes you grow. I upped my PRs on quite a few exercises.

I think I am gonna do a short and sweet PCT, recover through the new year, and start the new year with a bang with Hdrol/Feraguno/1T...

I am gonna keep my bottle of mdrol. I may still use it as a low dose, first week kicker for other cycles.
 
GMG760 said:
Yea Australian, you are right, this cycle wasn't a loss. I broke 200lbs... in like 5 days lol... man this stuff makes you grow. I upped my PRs on quite a few exercises.

I think I am gonna do a short and sweet PCT, recover through the new year, and start the new year with a bang with Hdrol/Feraguno/1T...

I am gonna keep my bottle of mdrol. I may still use it as a low dose, first week kicker for other cycles.
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This is a good idea. It kicks in real fast. Use the M-Drol like a 1 week front load to some Epi or H-Drol cycles. You can still use those without any gyno worries I would think. And I agree with Australian Made. That Phera of yours might not be a good idea either. And the TRN is a progestin. So.... I'm gonna PM you here in a minute bro. Hold on. I've got some ideas. Don't worry, they're not my usual crazy ones!! LOL
 
thundergod said:
This is a good idea. It kicks in real fast. Use the M-Drol like a 1 week front load to some Epi or H-Drol cycles. You can still use those without any gyno worries I would think. And I agree with Australian Made. That Phera of yours might not be a good idea either. And the TRN is a progestin. So.... I'm gonna PM you here in a minute bro. Hold on. I've got some ideas. Don't worry, they're not my usual crazy ones!! LOL
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Thanks TG. I am gonna try each of the compounds out. I'll just have to wait and find out if they work for me or not.... we'll have to see.

And if Epi didn't give me gyno, then I really doubt hdrol will.
 
Sorry to hear about this downfall man! That is a always a sh1tty situation. you should be fine with the hdrol, but the phera you might need to watch out for. It has a lot of cases of gyno with it as well. Best of luck bud!
 
Sorry to hear bout this G,.. however you have a positive outlook, and keep yer head up. Live to fight another day!!!
 
Sad news G! Better to cut your risks and try to hold onto what you have. The DHEA was just for the lethargy right? Will that be necessary anymore?
 
Yea I am gonna stick with the dhea...

I am gonna take some pics of my nips later and post them... I want some advice as to what this actually is, and if I am just imagining things or not. I swear I can't really tell if this is gyno or just me tripping out.
 
GMG760 said:
Yea I am gonna stick with the dhea...

I am gonna take some pics of my nips later and post them... I want some advice as to what this actually is, and if I am just imagining things or not. I swear I can't really tell if this is gyno or just me tripping out.
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Sometimes people will check them so much it will make them sensitive, I have done this just being worried and it turned out to be nothing. If you feel a lump though it usually is gyno.
 
yo bro! im sorry to hear about the gyno man!! thats sux! at least you got some great stuff out of the short cycle!! I hope the gyno goes away quickly! Hey look at the bright side.... now you will have more time to come to my log... lol jk! on the real though, hope everything goes well for you in pct!

Sorry
GJJ
 
also, G...how was the show sat night? Sorry I couldn't make it out!
 
Seriously!! I think I am going to do a one week burst cycle of 20 mg and see what happens. j/k but, interesting none the less.
 
hman85 said:
Sometimes people will check them so much it will make them sensitive, I have done this just being worried and it turned out to be nothing. If you feel a lump though it usually is gyno.
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That's what I have been thinking lol... I have been checking myself like a madperson since Timber had his episode last week.

Ok, for the record. I cannot feel any lump. I have mild tenderness of the nipples, nothing I couldn't have done myself by just touching them too much...

When I raise my arm above my head the upper half of my nip appears swolen, however, my nipple is at the bottom of my pec... I am not sure if it just the edge of my muscle or not.

I did notice that my chest looks less fatty this morning after dosing the tamox... which is the only thing that makes me sort of think that it was the beginning of gyno.
 
grila jujitsu said:
yo bro! im sorry to hear about the gyno man!! thats sux! at least you got some great stuff out of the short cycle!! I hope the gyno goes away quickly! Hey look at the bright side.... now you will have more time to come to my log... lol jk! on the real though, hope everything goes well for you in pct!

Sorry
GJJ
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I caught it early if it really is gyno at all... it's nothing that is bothering me, I imagine my PCT should take care of anything coming my way. Thanks for the well wishing though.
 
GMG760 said:
That's what I have been thinking lol... I have been checking myself like a madperson since Timber had his episode last week.

Ok, for the record. I cannot feel any lump. I have mild tenderness of the nipples, nothing I couldn't have done myself by just touching them too much...

When I raise my arm above my head the upper half of my nip appears swolen, however, my nipple is at the bottom of my pec... I am not sure if it just the edge of my muscle or not.

I did notice that my chest looks less fatty this morning after dosing the tamox... which is the only thing that makes me sort of think that it was the beginning of gyno.
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Some people get puffy nips evertime they cycle. I know I have given myself them just from feeling my nips so much(no homo lol)
 
hman85 said:
Some people get puffy nips evertime they cycle. I know I have given myself them just from feeling my nips so much(no homo lol)
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ok... well maybe I am tripping. I dunno... off to take pics of my "gyno" so I can see what you guys think. brb.
 
So here they are... Let me know what you guys think... my options are continue PCT, or continue with the cycle and add ATD and 4-5 days of low dose tamox... I know I am pushing it and probably will just stop, but I want to hear what you guys think after you see what's going on.
 

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If you continued cycle how long do you have left? I personally would keep it up with nolva and atd if there wasn't a lump. Thats my take on it but I have never had gyno and i know some people might disagree.
 
hman85 said:
If you continued cycle how long do you have left? I personally would keep it up with nolva and atd if there wasn't a lump. Thats my take on it but I have never had gyno and i know some people might disagree.
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Well, my original plans were for another week and a half. I would be happy with just finishing out my 2 weeks though. Any thoughts on the pic?
 
delsolrob said:
also, G...how was the show sat night? Sorry I couldn't make it out!
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The show was fun! There were actually a bunch of people at the show, which surprised me... we usually do much better in the OB/PB area or North county/Orange county... probably our best Downtown show yet... and I got a phone # of a hot latin girl... :D
 
I cant see anything in the pic that resembles gyno. I have gyno, and its obvious on one nip. Yours look fine but obviously we cant tell if there is a lump underneath the nip.

Problem is how many people check their nipples before a cycle and get a feel for what's going on underneath before they've taken anything hormonal? Id say not many, then they spend 20 mins each day rubbing,squeezing their nips on their cycle making themselves paranoid especially if there's a bit of a lump or puffiness which may or may not have been there before they started their cycle.
 
Australian made said:
I cant see anything in the pic that resembles gyno. I have gyno, and its obvious on one nip. Yours look fine but obviously we cant tell if there is a lump underneath the nip.

Problem is how many people check their nipples before a cycle and get a feel for what's going on underneath before they've taken anything hormonal? Id say not many, then they spend 20 mins each day rubbing,squeezing their nips on their cycle making themselves paranoid especially if there's a bit of a lump or puffiness which may or may not have been there before they started their cycle.
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There is nothing that I can feel. It was all just by sight.

F*ck this. I am getting the feeling I am just paranoid. I'm gonna go dose 10mg mdrol, and see what happens... I am going to continue dosing Nolva at 20mg for the next few nights, as well as adding ATD to the rest of the cycle starting today.

Anyone horribly object to me continuing the cycle? Anyone think I am being brash... on either front?
 
Australian made said:
I cant see anything in the pic that resembles gyno. I have gyno, and its obvious on one nip. Yours look fine but obviously we cant tell if there is a lump underneath the nip.

Problem is how many people check their nipples before a cycle and get a feel for what's going on underneath before they've taken anything hormonal? Id say not many, then they spend 20 mins each day rubbing,squeezing their nips on their cycle making themselves paranoid especially if there's a bit of a lump or puffiness which may or may not have been there before they started their cycle.
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i got a lump under my nips when i was in 6th or 7th grade while going through puberty! ya think that was puberty gyno? lol
 
grila jujitsu said:
i got a lump under my nips when i was in 6th or 7th grade while going through puberty! ya think that was puberty gyno? lol
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Probably.

Ok everyone -

I just redosed 10mg mdrol as an experiment. I also had a day's worth of Formadrol by LG left over. I took one dose of it, I will take another tonight. I will buy some Novadex XT either today or tomorrow and continue the dosing.

I will continue running the compound at 10mg ED alongside Tamox and an AI to complete the rest of my Week 2.

If anything gets worse I will stop. At the end of Week 2, if I am completely better or no change, I may or may not continue untill week 3. I am kind of curious to see what happens.

I have debated whether I should dose 20mg tamox again, or if I should dose 40 mg... what do you guys think
 
Maybe it's just me but, I don't see anything!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Maybe it's just me but, I don't see anything!
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Yea I know... I really can't make my mind up about it. I am gonna continue on, and if anything gets larger/worse... I'll stop immediately. I think it might just be some chest fat. I'll only be able to tell if the symptoms get worse.
 
you want me to drive up there and inspect you nipps for you? :run:
 
Could it be some bloat? Is M-drol wet or dry?
 
m-drol is a very dry compound!
 
I think his hot little latin lady can do a more thorough job Del!!
 
Ok, so that rules that out.
 
I think you should dose the nolva everynight at 10mgs and see if that helps. I know everyone says that mdrol is completely dry, but i sure as hell was bloated when I took it.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
I think his hot little latin lady can do a more thorough job Del!!
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true, true...I love latin women!

GMG should head down to Guadalajara with me next time I go...the ladies down there are incredible!
 
Scottsdale, are you familiar with AZ?
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Scottsdale, are you familiar with AZ?
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hell yeah, I'm from Glendale...I'll be out there for thanksgiving!

I was born there and lived in glendale until I was 24. when I graduated I got a job in SD and moved out here.

what gym do you workout at?
 
I have my own set up at my house. I used to workout at Maximum Fitness but my now 17 year old was too young to get in then so we put together a weight room at home. It is much more convenient.
 
delsolrob said:
true, true...I love latin women!

GMG should head down to Guadalajara with me next time I go...the ladies down there are incredible!
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You just tell me where to sign up dude. That's far enough down there that I'd feel somewhat safe.
 
hell yeah! I think I'm gonna schedule a vacation down there in the early spring...I know all the spots around there and you gotta go on the tequila express (its a train)!!!!
 
GMG760 said:
Yea I am gonna stick with the dhea...

I am gonna take some pics of my nips later and post them... I want some advice as to what this actually is, and if I am just imagining things or not. I swear I can't really tell if this is gyno or just me tripping out.
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It's still better to be safe than sorry. But you may actually just be trippin'!! I'm sorry. But I feel a lot of guys have an over-active paranoia about gyno. So they are continually doing self-examinations where they're playin' and squeezin' on their nips every day. That will make them sore no doubt. I'm sure you're gonna be alright though G-Money.
 
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