Marijuana and Bodybuilding
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planetfuzz
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I used to have a vapolution. It's the best hands down. Yea,you can get a volcano if you feel like spending well over 500 dollars. The vapolution is 150 from the website. It has a car charger and it has tubes and you can get lots of different accessories for it too. The big difference between the vapolution and another vape around the same price is: 1.)There is not a fan so it is totally quiet 2.) It is all glass so you get excellent flavor and nothing else and 3.) It is built like a tank. You'd probably have to take a sledge hammer to it to break it.
I miss mine. I will get another one eventually but I just can't afford to be spending money on weed right now. The best thing about it was the car charger.:thumbsup:
fbd21 is right too. When I used to smoke daily I would go through an eighth a week. When I got the vaporizer I went through half an eighth in two weeks. When you smoke it you get about 30 percent of the THC,when you eat it you get about 70,and when you vape it you get around 90 percent.
I second that though. Everything can be good and bad. If you sit around your house all day and smoke weed and it prevents you from getting things done,that's bad. If you can do it responsibly,it's fine. I don't do it anymore though because I am trying to gain weight and it really messes with my appetite. I'll think I'm hungry and eat a whole meal and then feel like crap. haha
bassgod272
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an 1/8th a week!?!? when i blazed regularly, an 1/8 lasted me like 3 days!!!! :lol: blunts require more though, so that's my excuse 
planetfuzz
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an 1/8th a week!?!? when i blazed regularly, an 1/8 lasted me like 3 days!!!! :lol: blunts require more though, so that's my excuse
Well I would usually only smoke 1-2 times a day and I always used a bong. There is nothing like a good bong rip.:thumbsup:
fbd21
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my vap has no wood its hard plastic, then you plug in a tube withh the glass tip on the end.
blunts are great but expensive. i used to smoke easily an eighth a day before i cut back.. they just arent very efficient.
cooking with it is great too but its pretty expensive to make cannabutter. i know a recipe for a chai tea, you only need 1g, some milk, butter, and a chai tea bag(optional) and you're good for at least 6 hours. very cost effective and easy to make and choke down!
good way to start up that appetite :food:
DreamOfWeight
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I Love My Roor!!
planetfuzz
Active member
Never heard of a roor...
DreamOfWeight
Registered User
roor is like the lexus of bongs... i had one in college but got into some trouble.. had to throw everything away when i moved back home.
shaddow
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My $.02. Vaporizers suck. I have smoked my fair share of them, and I don't care what anyone says, the high is NOT the same. If I wanna smoke, I wanna smoke. I wanna inhale smoke, and I wanna blow out smoke. "Vapor" just doesn't cut it for me. If you wanna get proper STONED, you simply cannot beat the effects of a nice bong. Joints are cool, and I used to love blunts back when I was younger and smoked cigs, but now they are just waaaaay too harsh for me. Bowls & chillums are great on the go, and my preferred method when I'm on the move simply cuz I don't like walking around smelling like I just left a Cypress Hill concert. But if I'm relaxing and just wanna chill... Bong hit FTW, all the way.
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bassgod272
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That my friend, is a nice piece
DreamOfWeight
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yaa.. Very nice... And u keep it clean! Extra nice
fbd21
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1. All Vapolution bowls are dimpled about 1 inch from the end. The dimple acts like a screen. The end closest to the dimple is where you load your herb. Insert the end AWAY from the dimple into the tube.
2. Slip the white retaining washer over the straight bowl. Slide it up until it touches the tube.
3. insert the bowl into the top of the vaporizer. The bowl will stop when it touches the bottom of the heater. Position the washer so it prevents the bowl from touching the bottom of the heater.
3. Plug in the vaporizer.
4. Flip the switch up to turn the vaporizer on. The switch will light up when the vaporizer is on.
5. The lowest temperature setting on the vaporizer is at 6 o'clock. The highest setting is at 4 o'clock. to vape right away put it to the highest setting. After 5 minutes of pre-heating, turn the vaporizer down to your preferred setting. 12 o'clock is your best bet. The Vapolution Vaporizer is designed to run for up to 8 hours continuously without overheating or burning out.
6. Loading the bowl corretly is the most important step. DO NOT grind your weed. Break off 1-3 small nugs. Maybe break em up just a bit. shape the nugs and squeeze em together so they sort of hold together in one. insert it into the bowl. make sure its not over-packed and the air can pass though easily. Good airflow is important! if its too packed it'll be exhausting trying to inhale it. If you load it too loose, it will fall out.
7. Place the loaded bowl into the top of the pre-heated vaporizer. Drag it nice and slow for a good hit. Draw until you are out of breath. Hold it in and then exhale. You will see visible vapor.
8. The bud will turn light to dark brown when its done.. Vaporizing it at too high of a temp will turn it black and itll taste like sh--. General rule of thumb is 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock on the dial.
9. to clear the bowl just blow through the tube. careful, the bowl might be hot
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fbd21
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aint nothin like a bong. especially a bong like that i bet it rips beautifully.. how much did that run you if you dont mind me asking?
TOYFORDOLET
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I use V Tower, it is cheap(think I paid ~$55) and works well. Just need to dial in the temp.
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dertynasty
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Nice man.... that exact bong is sold down the street from me at some no-name smoke shop with no-name pipes. It sold for 40 bucks. Included was also an ash-catcher bowl and perculated downstem. The tripple perculated palm tree in the center makes it rip so soooo smooth. I remember it hit just as good as my tripple perc PH(x) back in the day.
I feel what your saying though.... smoking a vape is definately not the same high AT ALL then straight smoking. However! If the people in here want to be health conscious while doing drugs (sounds funny to me) then by all means go for the vape. Just make sure not to burn ur herb with too hot of a temp cause then you might as well be smoking except it will taste alot worse.
The volcano got me waaaaay to ****ed up. Ill stick to blunts sir.
planetfuzz
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I wouldn't say they suck. It is a different high but you are certainly still high. For me personally,when I had my vape,I was saving money and my lungs and that felt great. I think one of the best things about the vape is that there is no smell. I used to vape before work and I would have no worries at all about my managers smelling it on me. I personally preferred smoking the vaporizer but some of my other friends hated it and some loved it. There is nothing like a quality bong though.
Superdoad
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Toking has so many good uses, the only think bad I think is kids get into it and they smoke ALL the time and never do anything, I smoke on occasion, usually most weekends, and don't see any negative effects (except maybe dirty pee if someone asks).
It is ALCOHOL that is the killer.
Legalize IT and collect taxes.
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It is ALCOHOL that is the killer.
Legalize IT and collect taxes.
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planetfuzz
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Whether Marijuana increases estrogen is still a gray area. If you google it you'll find 100 studies saying it does and then there are 100 studies saying it doesn't.
My view on it is that IF it does it's such a small amount that if it does it's wont really matter. I don't think it does though.
I have thought about smoking before the gym before but I just don't know about that...I like saving it for after when I need to eat a BIG meal.:food:
Too much of anything is bad. I smoke like most people drink. I do it socially a couple times a week. Alcohol is the killer. Why alcohol is legal and weed isn't is beyond me. Norml is awesome.
Superdoad
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Yes It will help you to consume lots of food. I used to get these uncontrollable munchies, I was never satisfied, I would eat till I couldn't get down another bite. Then ten minute later eat a whole pizza. You know those kind of munchies. Actually the only time mine a "cured" is when I'm on a strict diet plan and the urge to not deviate is greater than the urge to taste all that delicious food.
TexasTitan
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I dont see how it could be anything but detrimental to a physically active lifestyle. Not to mention, think about what you scrape out of your pipe, thats going into your lungs. Im not here to say I know its real effects but biased studies, not only done by the government but by the pro-marijuana lobbies cant be taken too seriously IMHO. You ought to see the ones industries like Tobacco do. As 'Thank You For Smoking' puts it, "[The Tobacco Scientist] could disprove gravity." I personally believe its just justifying a personal vice by any means necessary. How many would be sticking up for MJ if it didnt get you high?
ari4216
Banned
theres no studies that prove it
but whenever i get high, my boobs get puffy, i also get a sort of pump, to me it seems like an estro pump. At least for me specifically it increases estrogen, probally not for everyone.
ari4216
Banned
thats one of the negatives for me, cause i eat healthy normally, but i get craving for junk food mainly.
I have gone the gym blitzed probally like 5 times on different levels of high, and its definately fun, i also kind of get a better pump, and the mind-muscle connection is awesome. Obvisouly i could see how this could be hard to do for some, but if u get an energy type breed, you can do it. Plus, probally not really healthy i took it with a pre-workout drink , and that works pretty well.
I dont do it anymore, but its worth the experience.
planetfuzz
Active member
I don't see how drinking could be anything but detrimental but people still do it. In my opinion smoking is certainly the lesser evil so that is what I choose to do. I find that when I do it in moderation the benefits out weigh any negative side effects.
Ever heard of a vaporizer?
You probably get a pump because weed is a vasodilator. That's why your eyes get red.
TexasTitan
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Yes, I have. I have probably partied harder than you ever have as well, so dont think Im an altar boy who lifts between services. Bringing alcohol into the discussion is stupid. Its not relevant to this. The whole, everyone does it thing means nothing. Just because one certain method avoids tar, doesnt make the substance a-ok then. I really think you really need to only hold off if you are a professional athlete or something along those lines. If you lift alot, eat a more than usual, take a few supplements, it probably wont change a lot. There is a difference between lifting and training. Im not pretending to know but in reality, only researchers who get an independently funded paycheck know at this point. All Im saying is, I dont see how it could do anything but hurt your training. Also, the keyword is moderation. Something that alters your mind is a little tougher than say candy or bad foods to use in moderation.
ari4216
Banned
From a former IFBB Pro,
"One thing I know for sure is that it definitely helps to increase your appetite. Everyone knows that the difference between a 300 lb. bodybuilder and a 250 lb. bodybuilder all things being equal is the amount of calories they intake. So, if weed makes you eat like a horse then I don't see ay reason why you shouldn't use it as an aid for calorie consumption. Now, as far as the adverse effects from smoking weed; the only thing I know for a fact is that it raises your estrogen levels but I don't necessarily know that estrogen being raised is a bad thing. Also, as long as it doesn't make you lazy to the point that it affects you from being a productive person, then smoke away. Personally I don't smoke weed because it makes me extremely lazy."
"One thing I know for sure is that it definitely helps to increase your appetite. Everyone knows that the difference between a 300 lb. bodybuilder and a 250 lb. bodybuilder all things being equal is the amount of calories they intake. So, if weed makes you eat like a horse then I don't see ay reason why you shouldn't use it as an aid for calorie consumption. Now, as far as the adverse effects from smoking weed; the only thing I know for a fact is that it raises your estrogen levels but I don't necessarily know that estrogen being raised is a bad thing. Also, as long as it doesn't make you lazy to the point that it affects you from being a productive person, then smoke away. Personally I don't smoke weed because it makes me extremely lazy."
ari4216
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"Crude marijuana extract competed with estradiol for binding to the estrogen receptor of rat uterine cytosol. Condensed marijuana smoke also competed with estradiol for its receptor. Pure delta 9- tetrahydrocannabinol, however, did not interact with the estrogen receptor. Ten delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol metabolites also failed to compete with estradiol for its receptor. Of several other common cannabinoids tested, only cannabidiol showed any estrogen receptor binding. This was evident only at very high concentrations of cannabidiol. Apigenin, the aglycone of a flavinoid phytoestrogen found in cannabis, displayed high affinity for the estrogen receptor. To assess the biological significance of these receptor data, estrogen activity was measured in vivo with the uterine growth bioassay, using immature rats. Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.
MA Sauer, SM Rifka, RL Hawks, GB Cutler and DL Loriaux "
This makes some sense to me, not all MJ will increase estrogen levels. If you took pure THC there would be no estogen. In most studies i think they use pure THC, which would explain no estrogenic effect.
So Apigenin and other phytoestrogen in marijuanna, that have no pyschotropics effects, are probally the cause of increased estrogen.
MA Sauer, SM Rifka, RL Hawks, GB Cutler and DL Loriaux "
This makes some sense to me, not all MJ will increase estrogen levels. If you took pure THC there would be no estogen. In most studies i think they use pure THC, which would explain no estrogenic effect.
So Apigenin and other phytoestrogen in marijuanna, that have no pyschotropics effects, are probally the cause of increased estrogen.
TexasTitan
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You couldnt pay me anything short of 700,000 annually to live in California. And are you talking to yourself? Youve managed to post random points for about 4 or 5 posts in a row now. In the end, its just looking for anything to justify a vice. I dont think marijuana is the top of the top when it comes to boosting appetite.
ari4216
Banned
Given this information, providing you have a good strain of herb, i believe in fact, marijuanna can be an indirectly anabolic substance.
Reasoning:
Food consumption
Better Rest
Improved Muscle-mind connection
Disadvatages:
Mainly arise only in moderate to extreme use
Laziness(depends on amounts)
Ocassionaly Paranoia if used in extreme amounts
Habituation/Mental Addiction(ie no crazy withdrawel symptoms)
Slows short-term memory during and day after usage, but no long term memory damage at all.
Quite contrary, i belive there are studies or studies being done for alzheimer's patient(look at this link Invalid Link Removed)
Other than these side effects, there is no real danger that has been proven in any study.
Reasoning:
Food consumption
Better Rest
Improved Muscle-mind connection
Disadvatages:
Mainly arise only in moderate to extreme use
Laziness(depends on amounts)
Ocassionaly Paranoia if used in extreme amounts
Habituation/Mental Addiction(ie no crazy withdrawel symptoms)
Slows short-term memory during and day after usage, but no long term memory damage at all.
Quite contrary, i belive there are studies or studies being done for alzheimer's patient(look at this link Invalid Link Removed)
Other than these side effects, there is no real danger that has been proven in any study.
ari4216
Banned
It actually is...
Why would cancer patients be prescribed Marijuanna for appetite, if there was something better. Marijuanna is actually leagues above any other prescription medication.
but i dont really want to argue with you, im posting this, as an information resource, so when someone, like myself, looks this up, they can get some good real information on the subject.
TexasTitan
Well-known member
Justify away dude, I wont tell you not to. I dont know enough one way or the other.
This "real information" is coming from the marijuana lobby's side of the aisle. Anything you disagree with you're dismissing, while anything you agree with is "real info."
This "real information" is coming from the marijuana lobby's side of the aisle. Anything you disagree with you're dismissing, while anything you agree with is "real info."
ari4216
Banned
post sources of your info then, ill be happy that youll realize you cant find barely anything that says the herb is dangerous.
By the way, i just wanted to post, i am not at all in anyway a user of marijuanna, these comments are for research only.
I havent used the substance in over 3 months.
TexasTitan
Well-known member
Yeah...contradiction thar. Im not going to post sources, I have pretty much outrightly said I dont know one way or the other but all it is is people justifying a personal vice. Looking for anything that will make it ok.
ari4216
Banned
Im not trying to put rose petal on marijuana usage.
I just want put out a few tidbit of information about bodybuilding and marijuanna, which is what this threads about.
Im actually doing a service to the anabolic minds community.
This whole organization is about getting people's own experiences plus posting of reliable resources to get information that not readily available on google.
Steriods are good for you according to some, and there are many threads about that on this forum. That stuff is illegal too.
This is the only thread about Marijuana and Bodybuilding at anabolic minds,
So when someone searches marijuanna on anabolicminds.com, they will stumble onto this thread, which is what happened to me.
so when someone else comes to this thread, theyll have a little bit more information on the subject to read, than when i viewed the thread.
I appreciate your willingness to understand dear friend
TexasTitan
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I think youre just upset you barely got out of high school, are now 23, work a dead end construction job, and type like a 3rd grader. Quit leaving me bad reputation like I actually care.
tim1985
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I guess hes got some sand in his vagina also
TexasTitan
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Ever thought about acting like a grown up?
tim1985
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Yes I have, but this is much more fun:thumbsup:
TexasTitan
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Seems like you live your life that way. When youre struggling to retire in your 60s, let me know how that worked out for you.
Iron Lungz
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tim1985
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Fukking awesome Iron! :lol: neg -413 and counting