M5aa poll

m5aa

  • yea Ive tried it and kicks rear end, pre workout

    Votes: 104 37.1%

  • No have not treid it, but want to

    Votes: 146 52.1%

  • Tried, it think it sucks

    Votes: 30 10.7%
  • Total voters
    280
the clonidine knocks my ass out too. its real good to have around when you can't go to sleep


I also got a question about the 3 alpha. 1fast sells 3 alpha and 3 beta, and it says there about the same on the sight. Beta is only 1 dollar a gram. You think this stuff will be about the same as the alpha???? I haven't heard any feedback about 3 BETA....
 
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Rogue Drone said:
I'm very disaapointed with Custom's M5 at 100mgs. 10 days of 3 a day split dosing with 20mgs of M4OHN feels like M4OHN alone, no apparent effect from the M5aa.QUOTE]
If I remember right you where taking around 166mg of 3-alpha transdermal a day right? If you estimate the absorbtion rate of the Tgel it was in at about 30% thats close to 50mg of 3alpha getting into your system, which with a 43% conversion rate equals roughly 21mg of DHT. Thats alot more active horomone in your body then 100mg of M5. That could also be the reason why you didn't notice anything off the M5, it was actually a step down in the dosage.
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prld2gr8ns said:
Rogue Drone said:
I'm very disaapointed with Custom's M5 at 100mgs. 10 days of 3 a day split dosing with 20mgs of M4OHN feels like M4OHN alone, no apparent effect from the M5aa.QUOTE]
If I remember right you where taking around 166mg of 3-alpha transdermal a day right? If you estimate the absorbtion rate of the Tgel it was in at about 30% thats close to 50mg of 3alpha getting into your system, which with a 43% conversion rate equals roughly 21mg of DHT. Thats alot more active horomone in your body then 100mg of M5. That could also be the reason why you didn't notice anything off the M5, it was actually a step down in the dosage.
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21 mg of DHT :O I think I would be as bald as a porn star's snatch by the end of a cycle like that. And my prostate would hate me as well.
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If I'm not mistaken M5 has a conversion rate of 9-10%, similar to 3Beta. I could be wrong though.
 
Yeah, let us know anything you come up with man. I'm pretty much doing the exact same cycle as you are except in reverse order, I started off with M5 working up to 100mg/day, and as of tommorrow will be switching to 150mg/day trans 3-alpha.
 
that looks good to me prld, and that's what I had hoped to do to finish the last 2 weeks of my cycle. I've been using 36mg M4OHN and 100mg M5AA/day, and I was gonna use 150mg of 3-alpha t/d instead of the M5. I just realized that all I have is 3-beta, which is too bad. I'm gonna try it, I'll just have to use about 500mg instead. We'll see how it goes...
 
With the M5 at 100mg I didn't notice anything negative except for the damned oily skin, it'll be my first time using a t/d 3alpha so I'll let you know how that turns out in a bit.
 
Try splliting your dose over four to five times a day. I really had much better effects dosing with this regimen.
 
I have bee nhearing that you get much better strength increases if administered more frequently(4-5x a day) although I'm, not sure why, as since its a methyl shouldn't it have a longer 1/2 life?

40mg pre workout and 3-4 more 20mg doses throughout the day possibly. maybe one in the middle of the night also.

Any idea how liver toxic M5 is yet?
 
meathead1987 said:
I have bee nhearing that you get much better strength increases if administered more frequently(4-5x a day) although I'm, not sure why, as since its a methyl shouldn't it have a longer 1/2 life?

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MOHN is the same way, so being a methyl doesn't mean it has a long 1/2 life.... just better oral availability
 
I know this sounds stupid... but it looks like the molecular weight is around 370. If that's true, could you use a transdermal for the purpose of a slow release dosage? (I understand that won't improve the bioavailability of a methyl).
 
Yes it could.

You would be cutting urself short on the bioavailability though.

@ 370, I would think it'd have an absorbtion rate of ~ 30%

compared to ~100% oral.
 
I just ran m5aa as a go between for two m1t cycles. It looked like
this.

weeks 1&2 10mg m1t, 200mg 4ad trans
weeks 3&4 60mg m5aa, 200mg 4ad trans
weeks 5&6 15mg m1t, 200mg 4ad trans

It really helped to keep those pumps through the two week off period,
and the anti estrogen effects combated the 4ad. All in all the cycle
yeilded about 12lbs gain, 10 of which i still have post pct. I can say I
still gained alot in those two weeks, but that could have still been
the m1t.
 
Just started my m5aa cycle yesterday, which I\'m running with clen for 2wks. Also running 4ad (500mg/day trans.)which I started a week prior, since it takes time to kick in. I dosed 20mg m5aa when i woke up. Then 40mg about 5:30pm since I get out of work at 6pm and workout about 6:30pm. When upping the dose, I\'m wondering if I should add 20mg mid day or add 20mg pre-workout???? Let me know what you guys think.
 
I would wait, and see how you like the 60mgs first. Give it a week, since it's so fast acting, and then evaluate.
 
ryansm said:
I would wait, and see how you like the 60mgs first. Give it a week, since it\'s so fast acting, and then evaluate.
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Ok, cool. I\'ll try 60mg for a wk. Should i keep dose as is? and how long does one usually run m5aa cycles? 2-4wks? Thanks.
 
You could try ten in the morning, and then another ten mid-day or so. Remember that half-life is around three hours. 2-4 weeks is usual, but I have seen some run it for 6. I would run it with the 4-ad the entire time.
 
ryansm said:
You could try ten in the morning, and then another ten mid-day or so. Remember that half-life is around three hours. 2-4 weeks is usual, but I have seen some run it for 6. I would run it with the 4-ad the entire time.
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yeah, I\'m running the 4ad the whole time. Thing is I have Omega 20mg caps. So I was wondering if 20mg 3x day or 20mg am then 40mg pre-wo would be better.
 
Personally I already have the focus required to have optimal workouts, so I would go with three doses. If you are looking for that extra kick, then bump it to 80 that way you have the largest dose for pre-workout. Just play with it. I would still stick with the 60 for a week, and then decide.
 
M5AA makes my muscles much more dense and rock hard at just 30mgs preworkout. I like it.
 
I'm in the third week of my first 4-AD and 19-nor cycle and just got some MDHT the target hormone of M5aa and looking forward to adding it to the next three weeks of the cycle.

Am a bit worried about aggression though but have had no hair loss so far. Not sure whether to take 25mg 4 x a week pre workout or ED though? and then maybe bump it up to 50mg the next week?
 
ingo_1978 said:
I'm in the third week of my first 4-AD and 19-nor cycle and just got some MDHT the target hormone of M5aa and looking forward to adding it to the next three weeks of the cycle.

Am a bit worried about aggression though but have had no hair loss so far. Not sure whether to take 25mg 4 x a week pre workout or ED though? and then maybe bump it up to 50mg the next week?
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You have the right idea. Start as low as will achieve results (like 25mg) and ramp up as needed after that. I'd do pre-w/o only just to get a feel for it and minimize sides, then switch to ED for awhile. After some experimentation both ways, you'll know better how to apply for next time at least. Interestingly, it never made me that aggressive, but this is highly variable from one person to the next.
 
M5 and MDHT seem most effective and without sides used on workout days only for me, or say 4X/week. I split the daily doses into 2 or 3 , the largest dose (if there is one largest) pre-workout. Hardens you up nicely.
 
QUestion: I have herd M5AA is best used as a pre workout stim, If I used M5AA ONLY, preworkout, could I expect any type of strength increases? And, I know that there may be some sort of pct needed, but If I used around 30mg (might up the dose, just going with what Ive read) preworkout only would I notice any supression?
Just curious as I was looking for something to increase strength, help with my CNS some, .. hoping to get some indirect gains due to the strength increases.

Thoughts?
 
xtraflossy said:
QUestion: I have herd M5AA is best used as a pre workout stim, If I used M5AA ONLY, preworkout, could I expect any type of strength increases? And, I know that there may be some sort of pct needed, but If I used around 30mg (might up the dose, just going with what Ive read) preworkout only would I notice any supression?
Just curious as I was looking for something to increase strength, help with my CNS some, .. hoping to get some indirect gains due to the strength increases.

Thoughts?
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Good luck on finding that product anymore after the ban. Or am I wrong?
 
xtraflossy said:
QUestion: I have herd M5AA is best used as a pre workout stim, If I used M5AA ONLY, preworkout, could I expect any type of strength increases? And, I know that there may be some sort of pct needed, but If I used around 30mg (might up the dose, just going with what Ive read) preworkout only would I notice any supression?
Just curious as I was looking for something to increase strength, help with my CNS some, .. hoping to get some indirect gains due to the strength increases.

Thoughts?
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I've never tried it with M5AA, but I use to pulse dbol as a kid with great success. Use not more than 3x/wk pre w/o only and no suppression occurs long term.
 
powerlifter6920 said:
Good luck on finding that product anymore after the ban. Or am I wrong?
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I asked didn't I ? :run:
I was wondering what the supression issue may be using M5AA as a pre-workout stim to improve strength, compared to the newer supps if possible;
And, If the strength increases are that noticable. Ive looked around, but most people seem to use this product along side other things.
I was hoping I could use this stand-alone, and possible see some results...


Ahhh,.... Ebay!
 
Diplomats used it on his last cycle, it def works but you have to use HIGH dosages, best if found in grams...
 
Apowerz6 said:
Diplomats used it on his last cycle, it def works but you have to use HIGH dosages, best if found in grams...
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Some people seem to do fine by 30mgs, others, around 100 and up.
I havent found too many 5AA solo logs, and the ones I did find didnt sway me one way or another.
So I guess that leaves me with whay supression could be like...
 
xtraflossy said:
Some people seem to do fine by 30mgs, others, around 100 and up.
I havent found too many 5AA solo logs, and the ones I did find didnt sway me one way or another.
So I guess that leaves me with whay supression could be like...
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I really like M5AA @ 40mgs pre work out. It seems to give me greater concentration to finish my sets. This leads to greater strength, but I don't think the M5AA solo would necessarily bring heavier lifts. I never ran it solo. It seems to clear the body fairly quick, so multiple daily doses would be a good protocol. The only sides for me were oily skin(minor). I did not notice a shut down, other than a possible rebound effect but I have run it with Nandros and 1-test so I can't be specific about the effect.
 
Thanks for the input. I realize that not many people have used this solo. So opinions on any shutdown or strength increases are going to be hard to determine for most.

Hopefully, someone will run into this who Has used this solo, even if only for a few days
 
Even though I am hating to say this try searching over at BB.com it has to be someone has done something close...
 
God, as much I cant stand it over there anymore,...
Your probably right! Ther eis bound to be someone over there that has dont it,..
Just have to wade through all the BS,...
 
A bottle of methyl rage has 180 caps at 12.5mg MDHT. 1 cap should equal atleast 100mg M5AA, correct?
This should be far more cost effective.
 
doom3q said:
A bottle of methyl rage has 180 caps at 12.5mg MDHT. 1 cap should equal atleast 100mg M5AA, correct?
This should be far more cost effective.
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No! M5aa is stronger than that relative to MDHT. It depends on the a/b ratio of the 3-OH, but I'd say about 4:1. In other words, 2 or 3 caps might be equal.
 
When this stuff came out I did a test for LG @80mg a day. I had no sides what so ever and lifts went up up up. There was one more guy doing it same time...maybe LeanOne...don't remember.
Great stuff!
 
correct.. you have resurected this thread from the dead.. But I really liked m5aa it's effects were short but I felt unstoppable in the gym..
 
ive gone up to 50mg preworkout and felt nothing, maybe a little more of a pump but not this intense focus every talks about.
 
M5aa

Bump
I was looking for some new feedback on M5AA.I have a bottle
of 90-10mg caps.I am starting my Cycle tomorrow

I-Force"s Bold for 60 days at 800mgs
M5AA-Day 15-60 20mg preworkout.I will take only on the Days I workout,M/W/F
Cycle Support for 60 days.

post cycle therapy
EForm or 6oxoI have both.Which would be better?
SAMe
I-3-C
T-Force
Acetyl L-Carnitine 4.5 grams a day
a.2 serving of Clout=3grams
b.2 750mg caps Before bed=1.5grams
RPM/Drive


I do have Nolva-20mg tabs if I run into any problems


Age-41
My last Cycle was PheraVol/Propadrol in september.
I will be doing a GVT Routine

Is my setup ok?
 
I have read that it may take 40mg + prework out. You may have to reconsider the dosage.

I do not think you would run into estro problem because m5aa blocks out estro, but may cause some shedding from dht.

I think e-form would be better.

gl!
 
liquid said:
I have read that it may take 40mg + prework out. You may have to reconsider the dosage.

I do not think you would run into estro problem because m5aa blocks out estro, but may cause some shedding from dht.

I think e-form would be better.

gl!
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thanks for the help.
I am going to start at 20mg and ramp it up if I need it.
Can I run it for the entire cycle? 8 weeks-M/W/F

I am using AI's Cycle Support the whole Cycle.
 
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