M-Drol/Xtren cycle

onekickkawi

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Hey guys i just wanted to get some advice on my cycle im about to start and gather some insight I did a cycle of Mdrol only about 8 months ago so i know i will be getting back pumps again tourine didnt help to much. anways let me know what you think:

M-DROL - 20/20/30/30/0/0/
X-TREN - 0/0/60/60/90/90/
6-Bromo - 50/50/50/50/75/75
CYCLE ASSIST THROUGHOUT AND 1 WEEK PRIOR
FLAX SEED OIL 3000MG ED
SUPER B COMPLEX ED

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PCT:
Nolva - 40/30/20/10 25, 20mg pills
PCT ASSIST
6-Bromo - 75/75/75/75
FLAX SEED OIL 3000MG ED
SUPER B COMPLEX ED


I will be taking a multi vitamin and joint support along with all this. What do you think about my dosing for 6-Bromo though? I have never taken it before and it seems to be the best replacement for 6OXO... Input would be great
 
I would run the x tren at 90 for the first half the 120. Just keep an eye on those nips if u have issues with progestons.

* have u ran PH tren before?
 
ur shutdown is going to be HORRIBLE- enjoy
 
I would much rather PCT with clomid, nothing to do with the supposed nolva/progesterone interaction but rather the extent of shutdown, i just think clomid will work better.

I would plan it lighter on the mdrol too 10/20/20/30. But i can understand the higher dose cuz I love it too.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I would much rather PCT with clomid, nothing to do with the supposed nolva/progesterone interaction but rather the extent of shutdown, i just think clomid will work better.

I would plan it lighter on the mdrol too 10/20/20/30. But i can understand the higher dose cuz I love it too.
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You do love the clomid. Btw what is this trend of AIs on non-aromatizing cycles? I had some guy in another thread defending it like it was just the greatest ****ing idea ever, when I think its obviously deterimental.
 
deadaim said:
You do love the clomid. Btw what is this trend of AIs on non-aromatizing cycles? I had some guy in another thread defending it like it was just the greatest ****ing idea ever, when I think its obviously deterimental.
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I have no idea. I take AI's when on test and that's it. I think people want to take a preemptive strike at gyno. Apparently all forms of gyno, including the progestin-gyno induced by "tren," require a state of elevated estrogen in order to begin, so if you start tren wtih low estro the gyno should be mitigated. I guess that's the theory anyway.
 
Is 6-bromo a good idea or not? its the only thing i have yet to order. Any other ideas or skip it totally?

I would run clomid but I already have a bottle of Nolva... so its kinda like should i drop a bunch of cash or finish off what i have and buy clmid next time

n8te said:
I would run the x tren at 90 for the first half the 120. Just keep an eye on those nips if u have issues with progestons.

* have u ran PH tren before?
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No I havent ran tren alone before, so you suggesting 0/0/90/90/120/120?
 
he says that because the shutdown from tren is terrible, and SD can really build up when you're doing 30mg. The combination of the two is going to have you pretty completely shutdown, that's all. It's not a big deal, you just have to make sure that your PCT gets the job done.
 
UnrealMachine said:
he says that because the shutdown from tren is terrible, and SD can really build up when you're doing 30mg. The combination of the two is going to have you pretty completely shutdown, that's all. It's not a big deal, you just have to make sure that your PCT gets the job done.
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so would there be any reason to add t-911 or anything to my PCT? or do u feel it looks solid?

and is 6bromo needed? I added it because 6oxo was common in cycles but now discontinued
 
onekickkawi said:
that would be shutdown... I can deal just wanna make sure that i have everything in my PCT right so shutdown wont be to bad. I know its inevitable but less shutdown time is always better
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I hear u, but when ur in a relationship it's hard to explain why you just don't feel like having sex for 2 months.. Maybee your girl is more understanding than mine, but it's enough to make me shy away from the tren phs
 
Maybe look to add caber, and maybe HcG on this cycle, read chocolatemilks log to get a feel for the HcG.

And to unreal, I really dont get it either, im pretty sure that lowering your estrogen on cycle would actually increase your risk of gyno later since your body is going to have a higher amount of estrogen to restore. I havent read anything to substantiate my theory but it seems to me that gyno has a higher tendancy to pop up the lower your estrogen is going off cycle.

Im curious if the large jump in estradiol can cause gyno say from 0 to 100 (theoretical scale) moreso, rather than if you slowly had raised your estrodial to 120 over a longer period of time (say on on test). Hence why guys get delayed gyno on highly supressive steroids.
 
Bigchourico said:
I hear u, but when ur in a relationship it's hard to explain why you just don't feel like having sex for 2 months.. Maybee your girl is more understanding than mine, but it's enough to make me shy away from the tren phs
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totally understand that... Pro I guess to being single...
 
deadaim said:
, read chocolatemilks log to get a feel for the HcG.
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Which ones... he has a ton of posts and i have tried sorting it out and searching for HcG but havent found any... is there a certain one? I did a quick reading on cabaser and its a possibility, it would have to be ordered and delay the start of the cycle. I want to end the cycle by the end of summer.
 
UnrealMachine said:
he says that because the shutdown from tren is terrible, and SD can really build up when you're doing 30mg. The combination of the two is going to have you pretty completely shutdown, that's all. It's not a big deal, you just have to make sure that your PCT gets the job done.
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what he said is dead on- if ur pct is in order u will be fine- if ur pct is not in order as usual ur ****ed
 
onekickkawi said:
Which ones... he has a ton of posts and i have tried sorting it out and searching for HcG but havent found any... is there a certain one? I did a quick reading on cabaser and its a possibility, it would have to be ordered and delay the start of the cycle. I want to end the cycle by the end of summer.
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hes running a log, check it out.
 
I did the same cycle, and my sex drive never dropped. But everyone is different. I think your cycle looks solid, but if your worried about sex drive, hcg would be help for sure.
 
And caber, thats the most important, when progestin levels are high it kills your libido regardless of your testes.
 
my caber is in my pants..................literally
 
RAZORBACK09 said:
I did the same cycle, and my sex drive never dropped. But everyone is different. I think your cycle looks solid, but if your worried about sex drive, hcg would be help for sure.
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did u use 6bromo as well? what did u dose at? im going to look into HcG for sure.. also im running milk thistle dunno why i never said that!
 
onekickkawi said:
did u use 6bromo as well? what did u dose at? im going to look into HcG for sure.. also im running milk thistle dunno why i never said that!
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No, I ran a log of it awhile back, I didn't get the results I was hoping for, I guess I don't really respond to SD, that or it was garbage but the company who made it is legit so i'm not sure.
 
also I have found injectable HcG but I do not want to go that route. I see a lot of homeopathic HcG, are these comprible?
 
gymrat827 said:
Shutdown on that cycle will blow.


Clomid for pct
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id rather have no sex drive then inject myself... personal preference, besides it will only be for a month... I already have nolva, where i buy from now has a $100 min order so im going to stay with nolva...

in PCT wouldnt a test booster help? or an AI?
 
so your willing to compromise your recovery because your scared of needles? its just sub-Q its really not that bad.
 
I am talking about cel mdrol/ cel xtren.... not trenadrol .... and i have seen a few others run this mix with out HcG... but they did run their PCT with clomid... so I may cough up the money and get it
 
I wish we could post sources for ancillaries on here. 100 min order is high but you'd at least have plenty of stuff for future cycles
 
100 minimum order? Are you getting it from an AAS source, there are plenty of other options that dont have minimums :)
 
The only places i have seen post minimums for products like that are on sites that sell illegal steroids
 
dude google that **** i got my clomid tablets at like .80 cents a pill
 
schwellington said:
dude google that **** i got my clomid tablets at like .80 cents a pill
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yea im finding better sites with no minimum and smaller pill amounts.. i will be starting clomid for sure now.

still no hcg or caber... shutdown wont kill me nor hurt i can deal with it..

btw thanks for all the help guys!
 
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