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hulkhammond

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Hi, I'm 18 And have been training consistently for 16 months. I'm 6'0 180 lbs. Bench 295 squat 385, have proper diet, sleep, etc. Been researching "M drol" and strongly considering a 4 week cycle. But also wondering if i should take Andromass instead? I would take a PCT with it and also fish oil, milk thistle, and cranberry pills for liver/kidney. I tried a cycle of test freak and had some great workouts and pumps but it wasn't enough. Can I get some feedback on what benefits/side effects I could see with m drol or andromass? I am looking to put on 25 lbs of muscle mass/increase powerlifts by 30 lbs in the next 4 months or so.

My supplements are as follows:
Multivitamin
Amplified Creatine 189
Beyond Raw Rebuilt Mass Protein
Fish Oil
Cranberry
Milk Thistle

Getting about 225 g of protein a day and 4000+ calories.

So, thinking about adding either M drol or Andromass to this for a cycle or two. Which one?????????



Thanks!
 
hulkhammond said:
Hi, I'm 18 And have been training consistently for 16 months. I'm 6'0 180 lbs. Bench 295 squat 385, have proper diet, sleep, etc. Been researching "M drol" and strongly considering a 4 week cycle. But also wondering if i should take Andromass instead? I would take a PCT with it and also fish oil, milk thistle, and cranberry pills for liver/kidney. I tried a cycle of test freak and had some great workouts and pumps but it wasn't enough. Can I get some feedback on what benefits/side effects I could see with m drol or andromass? I am looking to put on 25 lbs of muscle mass/increase powerlifts by 30 lbs in the next 4 months or so.

My supplements are as follows:
Multivitamin
Amplified Creatine 189
Beyond Raw Rebuilt Mass Protein
Fish Oil
Cranberry
Milk Thistle

Getting about 225 g of protein a day and 4000+ calories.

So, thinking about adding either M drol or Andromass to this for a cycle or two. Which one?????????



Thanks!
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neither (because of your age). if you HAD to choose one, Andromass because it wont be as harsh on your body as Mdrol would and with mdrol you would HAVE to have a SERM for PCT, where as andromass you dont need a serm
 
You're 18 and shouldn't even be considering any exogenous hormones. With only 16 months of training, you're still a novice and have much to learn before making the jump to hormones.
 
So you made this thread on bb.com and you were flamed and laughed at. Then you decided to personally attack other members when you didn't receive the advice/answers you seeked. So you decided to come over here and do the same thing?

Lol.
 
Rhadam said:
So you made this thread on bb.com and you were flamed and laughed at. Then you decided to personally attack other members when you didn't receive the advice/answers you seeked. So you decided to come over here and do the same thing?

Lol.
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I just saw that thread today
 
Haha attacking? Who exactly did I attack with my thread? Just figured ppl on here would be a little more knowledeable/understanding...guess not.
 
hulkhammond said:
Haha attacking? Who exactly did I attack with my thread? Just figured ppl on here would be a little more knowledeable/understanding...guess not.
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oh i understand. i understand your eyes will turn yellow and you wont get hard for 3 months and wont even use a SERM
 
Man your 18 and no matter how many times people tell you its a bad idea to use a PH, especially since you have no idea how to do a proper PCT. People can tell you what to do, but its better to research and get a full understanding of what exactly your putting in your body. You haven't exhausted all other options before going to PH, your new to the lifting world, do other things before resorting to this. But probably no matter how many times we tell you this you'll do it, so enjoy.
 
PrepNwa23 said:
Man your 18 and no matter how many times people tell you its a bad idea to use a PH, especially since you have no idea how to do a proper PCT. People can tell you what to do, but its better to research and get a full understanding of what exactly your putting in your body. You haven't exhausted all other options before going to PH, your new to the lifting world, do other things before resorting to this. But probably no matter how many times we tell you this you'll do it, so enjoy.
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Agreed, although your going to do what you want you should really listen to these guys they are only trying to save your body/hormones
 
Hope you listen-- Bro 18 years old.. Eat good left hard and take the basic supps Creatine, mullti vit, fish oil ,bcaa... We are just trying to keep it real!
 
18 is far to young mate. Take ur time get traing/diet in check and you'll be fine with out hormones. Dont run before u can walk. If u are really dedicated that do whats right for ur body and wait. ( all good things come to thos who wait ) these lads are trying to help u
 
18 is far to young mate. Take ur time get traing/diet in check and you'll be fine with out hormones. Dont run before u can walk. If u are really dedicated that do whats right for ur body and wait. ( all good things come to thos who wait ) these lads are trying to help u
 
No product for me to sell you on here. You shouldn't be using at your age. It is not the answer you want to hear, and I am sure it is not one you will listen to anyway, but it is what it is.

Since you won't listen to us, please just don't choose superdrol (mdrol). I am not saying choose an andro-, but 18 on superdrol is the farthest from acceptable.
 
*facepalm*

ManBeast
 
Why the rush? Your lifts that you posted at your age and weight are impressive, stick with it bud...
 
You don't need drugs to have a great physique. Just look at guys like Jason Powell, Thomas Anderson, Robert Johnson, Tuan Tran and Darren Steen. All natural bodybuilders.
 
If you if you were 21 idk you would be ready for Mdrol...plus if you use these you will come out POSITIVE on steroid test! So if you play sports your screwed.

Also I need to see videos of you benching and squatting that much before helping you with anything. Not trying to be an ass but have to see
 
Colbert said:
If you if you were 21 idk you would be ready for Mdrol...plus if you use these you will come out POSITIVE on steroid test! So if you play sports your screwed.

Also I need to see videos of you benching and squatting that much before helping you with anything. Not trying to be an ass but have to see
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bench? squats? what are you smoking? its all about taking Mdrol with no PCT while hittin those tricep kickbacks every workout
 
hulkhammond said:
Hi, I'm 18 And have been training consistently for 16 months. I'm 6'0 180 lbs. Bench 295 squat 385, have proper diet, sleep, etc. Been researching "M drol" and strongly considering a 4 week cycle. But also wondering if i should take Andromass instead? I would take a PCT with it and also fish oil, milk thistle, and cranberry pills for liver/kidney. I tried a cycle of test freak and had some great workouts and pumps but it wasn't enough. Can I get some feedback on what benefits/side effects I could see with m drol or andromass? I am looking to put on 25 lbs of muscle mass/increase powerlifts by 30 lbs in the next 4 months or so.

My supplements are as follows:
Multivitamin
Amplified Creatine 189
Beyond Raw Rebuilt Mass Protein
Fish Oil
Cranberry
Milk Thistle

Getting about 225 g of protein a day and 4000+ calories.

So, thinking about adding either M drol or Andromass to this for a cycle or two. Which one?????????



Thanks!
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all the posters are haters man.....you are a beast already, fkn kill it, take no prisoners

mdrol, 40mg a day for 6wks and you'll hit those goals fast bro!........you dont need a serm, man i used mdrol at 50mg for 5wks, used tribulus for pct stacked with jack3d and i was still killing the weights and pounding vag......i think you got a plan, amazing diet and supps, even though you are 18, you seem ready!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
sking6464 said:
all the posters are haters man.....you are a beast already, fkn kill it, take no prisoners

mdrol, 40mg a day for 6wks and you'll hit those goals fast bro!........you dont need a serm, man i used mdrol at 50mg for 5wks, used tribulus for pct stacked with jack3d and i was still killing the weights and pounding vag......i think you got a plan, amazing diet and supps, even though you are 18, you seem ready!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Haha
 
sking6464 said:
all the posters are haters man.....you are a beast already, fkn kill it, take no prisoners

mdrol, 40mg a day for 6wks and you'll hit those goals fast bro!........you dont need a serm, man i used mdrol at 50mg for 5wks, used tribulus for pct stacked with jack3d and i was still killing the weights and pounding vag......i think you got a plan, amazing diet and supps, even though you are 18, you seem ready!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I first laughed...Then got worried. Kids are dumb enough to go along with this....**** it. HAHAHAH
 
if you dare go against our advise invest in some of those real comfortable bras
 
Yah but remember when your 18 and still considered a novice. 20lbs of muscle isnt hard to come in 4months, with lots of food and raging testosterone levels!
 
sking6464 said:
all the posters are haters man.....you are a beast already, fkn kill it, take no prisoners

mdrol, 40mg a day for 6wks and you'll hit those goals fast bro!........you dont need a serm, man i used mdrol at 50mg for 5wks, used tribulus for pct stacked with jack3d and i was still killing the weights and pounding vag......i think you got a plan, amazing diet and supps, even though you are 18, you seem ready!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Totally don't know if this is trolling or not but 40mg of SD! HAHAHAHAHAHA you better get some GHRP-6 cause your not going to eat **** due to having no appetite. You'll feel like garbage and just want to lay around or go to sleep like a heroin addict.

But hey what do I know. I only have done one cycle and that was for cutting(bad idea) and have spent about a year studying and setting up my second cycle. Have spent almost 1K and wasted almost 30g of TNE just to learn how to brew it right. Learned as much as I could about peptides, HGH, PCTs, HCG, SARMs, and steroids just for ONE cycle. ONE! ****ing ONE! Get that in your head. That 1k is not including the freaking $500/month I spent just on 97-99% lean beef. I'm not even "big". OH, and I got a NPC bodybuilder as a nutritionist, took nutrition classes, and studied my body all this time for again what? ONE FU-CKING cycle.

Unless you want to drop some serious money then don't start this game because THIS, steroids, is not like buying some cheap weed just to get high couple of times it's about months of dedication and endless money spending. /life lesson/Rant
 
Colbert said:
Totally don't know if this is trolling or not but 40mg of SD! HAHAHAHAHAHA you better get some GHRP-6 cause your not going to eat **** due to having no appetite. You'll feel like garbage and just want to lay around or go to sleep like a heroin addict.
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dude hes been training hardcore for a year, hes already plateaued from exhausting all training techniques and diet approaches

i know for a fact he just wants to run sd once, gain 25lbs of muscle, then he probably wont ever cycle again cause hell be happy, even if he likes the power, pumps, size that it gives because his sh*tty eating doesnt, im 100% positive he wont create a dependance on anabolics by starting so young....cmon you can build a house without a foundation man, its 2012..........the guy will be totally jacked all the way up to day 5 of pct, no doubt........im sure because hes young the hdl and liver damage that will last longer than the superficial gains,wont really effect him, i dont know an 18yr old who isnt a world beater and doesnt know everything.......im sure he knows his body better than i do after 12ys of this.....no doubt...........and wtf is ghrp-6, i dont do drugs man, and neither does he, superdrol is an otc supplement, cmon!

op like i said, take no prisoners, go hard or dont even bother, show the haters wrong, that theres a jay cutler inside all of us, that food is overated, and fk patience when stuff like phs are out there.............all these guys are of the 'do as i say not as i do' protecting the holy grail of gear.......rip it up man.......keep eating your birdseed, and grow like a mofo....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
sking6464 said:
dude hes been training hardcore for a year, hes already plateaued from exhausting all training techniques and diet approaches

i know for a fact he just wants to run sd once, gain 25lbs of muscle, then he probably wont ever cycle again cause hell be happy, even if he likes the power, pumps, size that it gives because his sh*tty eating doesnt, im 100% positive he wont create a dependance on anabolics by starting so young....cmon you can build a house without a foundation man, its 2012..........the guy will be totally jacked all the way up to day 5 of pct, no doubt........im sure because hes young the hdl and liver damage that will last longer than the superficial gains,wont really effect him, i dont know an 18yr old who isnt a world beater and doesnt know everything.......im sure he knows his body better than i do after 12ys of this.....no doubt...........and wtf is ghrp-6, i dont do drugs man, and neither does he, superdrol is an otc supplement, cmon!

op like i said, take no prisoners, go hard or dont even bother, show the haters wrong, that theres a jay cutler inside all of us, that food is overated, and fk patience when stuff like phs are out there.............all these guys are of the 'do as i say not as i do' protecting the holy grail of gear.......rip it up man.......keep eating your birdseed, and grow like a mofo....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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...well he never said that--Sd for everyone!
 
sking6464 said:
dude hes been training hardcore for a year, hes already plateaued from exhausting all training techniques and diet approaches

i know for a fact he just wants to run sd once, gain 25lbs of muscle, then he probably wont ever cycle again cause hell be happy, even if he likes the power, pumps, size that it gives because his sh*tty eating doesnt, im 100% positive he wont create a dependance on anabolics by starting so young....cmon you can build a house without a foundation man, its 2012..........the guy will be totally jacked all the way up to day 5 of pct, no doubt........im sure because hes young the hdl and liver damage that will last longer than the superficial gains,wont really effect him, i dont know an 18yr old who isnt a world beater and doesnt know everything.......im sure he knows his body better than i do after 12ys of this.....no doubt...........and wtf is ghrp-6, i dont do drugs man, and neither does he, superdrol is an otc supplement, cmon!

op like i said, take no prisoners, go hard or dont even bother, show the haters wrong, that theres a jay cutler inside all of us, that food is overated, and fk patience when stuff like phs are out there.............all these guys are of the 'do as i say not as i do' protecting the holy grail of gear.......rip it up man.......keep eating your birdseed, and grow like a mofo....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope your joking.....

there is no such thing as a long term plateau. if you plateau, CHANGE YOUR ROUTINE AND EAT MORE, not take SD. Im gonna laugh when this kid has to be on HRT because of you. and he wont gain 25 pounds of muscle. even with REAL juice like test prop, Dbol...etc, u dont do that in one cycle.

OP, lets say you ran SD and gained 15 pounds in 4 weeks. sounds good right? you are now 15 pounds heavier and need to eat like your 15 pounds heavier. if you dont, you will lose your gains. once you start PCT you will lose some of the gains. some people lose half.
 
sking6464 said:
dude hes been training hardcore for a year, hes already plateaued from exhausting all training techniques and diet approaches

i know for a fact he just wants to run sd once, gain 25lbs of muscle, then he probably wont ever cycle again cause hell be happy, even if he likes the power, pumps, size that it gives because his sh*tty eating doesnt, im 100% positive he wont create a dependance on anabolics by starting so young....cmon you can build a house without a foundation man, its 2012..........the guy will be totally jacked all the way up to day 5 of pct, no doubt........im sure because hes young the hdl and liver damage that will last longer than the superficial gains,wont really effect him, i dont know an 18yr old who isnt a world beater and doesnt know everything.......im sure he knows his body better than i do after 12ys of this.....no doubt...........and wtf is ghrp-6, i dont do drugs man, and neither does he, superdrol is an otc supplement, cmon!

op like i said, take no prisoners, go hard or dont even bother, show the haters wrong, that theres a jay cutler inside all of us, that food is overated, and fk patience when stuff like phs are out there.............all these guys are of the 'do as i say not as i do' protecting the holy grail of gear.......rip it up man.......keep eating your birdseed, and grow like a mofo....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very bad advice. Look at the number they speak for there selfs how meny pepoel have told u not to use and only one said yes to it. Have u not seen all the other 18-19 year old on here with all sorts of problems. Do u research bro u will be shock !!!
 
sking6464 said:
dude hes been training hardcore for a year, hes already plateaued from exhausting all training techniques and diet approaches

i know for a fact he just wants to run sd once, gain 25lbs of muscle, then he probably wont ever cycle again cause hell be happy, even if he likes the power, pumps, size that it gives because his sh*tty eating doesnt, im 100% positive he wont create a dependance on anabolics by starting so young....cmon you can build a house without a foundation man, its 2012..........the guy will be totally jacked all the way up to day 5 of pct, no doubt........im sure because hes young the hdl and liver damage that will last longer than the superficial gains,wont really effect him, i dont know an 18yr old who isnt a world beater and doesnt know everything.......im sure he knows his body better than i do after 12ys of this.....no doubt...........and wtf is ghrp-6, i dont do drugs man, and neither does he, superdrol is an otc supplement, cmon!

op like i said, take no prisoners, go hard or dont even bother, show the haters wrong, that theres a jay cutler inside all of us, that food is overated, and fk patience when stuff like phs are out there.............all these guys are of the 'do as i say not as i do' protecting the holy grail of gear.......rip it up man.......keep eating your birdseed, and grow like a mofo....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok you have to be a troll! Like for real! SD is harsher than ****ing dbol! **** a 14 week cycle of NPP and TNE would be easier on your body than 40mg of SD for 4 weeks! F.U.C.K actually the only thing that comes to my mind harsher than SD is Tren...wait but tren most be okay because its SOLD ON AMAZON! Wait, but how could it be? How can the most harshest steroid be totally legal to purchase and infact on of the cheapest things to get? Hell you can paypal that bitch. Did I just blow you mind? I think I just did.

Also if you think:
i know for a fact he just wants to run sd once, gain 25lbs of muscle, then he probably wont ever cycle again cause hell be happy
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then you most be either high, a bad troll, a little slow, or all of the above. Like for real! Hmmmm...let me see. I can workout for YEARS and gain 20lbs of muscle, maybe, or do ONE cycle for 3-4 weeks and gain 25lbs of muscle. Yeah, I'll stick to years of training because I know as a 18 year old that steroids are bad and I know that because I am 18 and ALL 18 year olds make good wise decisions.


BTW I asked him to post a video of him doing those weights because EVERY 18 year old thinks they can bench a billion pounds and squat a planet...wait, most MEN think they could do that or they "use to" be able to do it. You think I'm joking? Have a conversation with any random guy and start talking about working out.

ARNOLD maxed out at 500lbs...Ronnie did 495lbs couple of times...JAY does 315 on squats as his last workout...and those guys are pros that use HGH(30+K worth/year), steroids 24/7 365, insulin, peptides, thyroids, and everything else known to man.

For **** sake go study something or at least learn how to troll better...reddit has a lot of good trolls go learn from them.
 
hulkhammond said:
Hi, I'm 18 And have been training consistently for 16 months. I'm 6'0 180 lbs. Bench 295 squat 385, have proper diet, sleep, etc.

My supplements are as follows:
Multivitamin
Amplified Creatine 189
Beyond Raw Rebuilt Mass Protein
Fish Oil
Cranberry
Milk Thistle
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Do you know how he achieved those number in 16 months?


With G.N.C products....
 
Colbert said:
Ok you have to be a troll! Like for real! SD is harsher than ****ing dbol! **** a 14 week cycle of NPP and TNE would be easier on your body than 40mg of SD for 4 weeks! F.U.C.K actually the only thing that comes to my mind harsher than SD is Tren...wait but tren most be okay because its SOLD ON AMAZON! Wait, but how could it be? How can the most harshest steroid be totally legal to purchase and infact on of the cheapest things to get? Hell you can paypal that bitch. Did I just blow you mind? I think I just did.

Also if you think:

then you most be either high, a bad troll, a little slow, or all of the above. Like for real! Hmmmm...let me see. I can workout for YEARS and gain 20lbs of muscle, maybe, or do ONE cycle for 3-4 weeks and gain 25lbs of muscle. Yeah, I'll stick to years of training because I know as a 18 year old that steroids are bad and I know that because I am 18 and ALL 18 year olds make good wise decisions.


BTW I asked him to post a video of him doing those weights because EVERY 18 year old thinks they can bench a billion pounds and squat a planet...wait, most MEN think they could do that or they "use to" be able to do it. You think I'm joking? Have a conversation with any random guy and start talking about working out.

ARNOLD maxed out at 500lbs...Ronnie did 495lbs couple of times...JAY does 315 on squats as his last workout...and those guys are pros that use HGH(30+K worth/year), steroids 24/7 365, insulin, peptides, thyroids, and everything else known to man.

For **** sake go study something or at least learn how to troll better...reddit has a lot of good trolls go learn from them.
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perhaps he should have swung his sarcasm flag higher, as he wasn't serious.

but the harshness of superdrol, tren, etc is pretty individual. I've seen people who used crazy doses of any of the above without having any visible or noticeable sides (sure cholesterol was trashed and they were shut down), and then i've seen people almost go nuts from sides at 50mg of halodrol.
 
Colbert said:
ARNOLD maxed out at 500lbs...Ronnie did 495lbs couple of times...JAY does 315 on squats as his last workout...and those guys are pros that use HGH(30+K worth/year), steroids 24/7 365, insulin, peptides, thyroids, and everything else known to man.

For **** sake go study something or at least learn how to troll better...reddit has a lot of good trolls go learn from them.
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ahh man, relax

- you go and run npp and tren, sounds like a plan lol
- imo sd is pure rat poison, and id never touch it, I HAVE RUN FKN TREN......i would agree its also different strokes for different folks, some 'handle' things better than others, or just dont get the same sides
- stating what BODYBUILDERS can press is stupid hun, they are bodybuilders, there are running backs who press more so that argument hold no weight, i can press 305 for reps and squat more than jays 315, and i havent touched a fraction of the stuff, news flash, theres alot of aas that dont do much for you strength wise
- troll hahah, maybe its ridiculous how many thousands of these op iv answered about under age usage, would you like a link to stickies iv written? so sometimes sarcasm is a change of pace, but evidently it completely went over your head
- i just read your sig, and iv seen you on other boards, no thanks lol.........actually heres one, how would you run that tren/npp, lay it out for me, only if youve done it tho, cause i think bro science is useless

Colbert said:
I would say clomid from my reading but I would email nate...he knows his stuff and he'll hook you up bro.
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^^^^you on ology right? from you reading lol and advising someone to go to nate lmfao.....especially the dubious nature of his post in that thread,and his sales first approach with regards to selling the idea of formestane as pct

so so so so, from your readings, again, tren npp, how bout just test/tren?

EasyEJL said:
perhaps he should have swung his sarcasm flag higher, as he wasn't serious.

but the harshness of superdrol, tren, etc is pretty individual. I've seen people who used crazy doses of any of the above without having any visible or noticeable sides (sure cholesterol was trashed and they were shut down), and then i've seen people almost go nuts from sides at 50mg of halodrol.
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i agree with all of this
oralT gives me just as high bp as 500mg of tren........epi 60mg 4wks hurt my hdl worse than the tren.......but those two phs are regarded as beginner stuff on these forums
 
sking6464 said:
oralT gives me just as high bp as 500mg of tren........epi 60mg 4wks hurt my hdl worse than the tren.......but those two phs are regarded as beginner stuff on these forums
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They aren't, not even close, I have had similar bloods from those two at 6 weeks that I did with SD or M1T
 
sking6464 said:
ahh man, relax

- you go and run npp and tren, sounds like a plan lol Who said to run Tren and NPP? Do you mean TNE and NPP? Or TNE and Tren?
- imo sd is pure rat poison, and id never touch it, I HAVE RUN FKN TREN......i would agree its also different strokes for different folks, some 'handle' things better than others, or just dont get the same sides Yeah SD is rat poison but Tren that was made for cows is totally natural and cool. You can tell that by the tren cough that most people get and yes people handle things differently but I'm sure at some point everybody handles it the same(AKA bad sides). Like for example; I know how everybody would respond to 50ius of humulin.
- stating what BODYBUILDERS can press is stupid hun, they are bodybuilders, there are running backs who press more so that argument hold no weight, i can press 305 for reps and squat more than jays 315, and i havent touched a fraction of the stuff, news flash, theres alot of aas that dont do much for you strength wise You know powerlifters run almost as crazy or crazier **** than bodybuilders, right? Look up AAS research and cause of death. Most, like high 90%, is about power lifters and the LV of their heart. You think only bodybuilders run insane stuff? Because Powerlifters do the same things if not worst. And yes you can press almost as much as them but 20" bis, 36" quads, and keeping 3% BF for couple of hours...
- troll hahah, maybe its ridiculous how many thousands of these op iv answered about under age usage, would you like a link to stickies iv written? so sometimes sarcasm is a change of pace, but evidently it completely went over your head yeah but the dosages you gave have actually been ran before online and if you wanted to be sarcastic you could of given him some insane protocol rather than quote me with a smart ass answer and then tell the OP to run something that has been done before and people actually want to run again.
- i just read your sig, and iv seen you on other boards, no thanks lol.........actually heres one, how would you run that tren/npp, lay it out for me, only if youve done it tho, cause i think bro science is useless Oh that's good to know that you read my sig...phew! I can die happy now. Oh your talking about one other forum that I have this username out of 15 forums? Hmmm...good to know this username actually has followers but I'm sure my other usernames on other forums have a lot more followers than this one. And you wrote stuff that became stickies? That has to be a huge honor for you because most of a time as a admin on couple of forums and mods on others I make post stickies.
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OP they are a lot better things you can do with the money your going to spend on a cycle. Save your money and try to live a long life because steroids do and will make your life shorter. I know as a 18 year old your like couple of years or even a decade won't be that bad but trust me when you get to that age it will matter because those are the good years. Years that your retired, your relax with the wife that you've loved for years, surrounded by your kids and grand kids, and you don't have a single thing to worry about...like tests or work.
 
Colbert said:
OP they are a lot better things you can do with the money your going to spend on a cycle. Save your money and try to live a long life because steroids do and will make your life shorter. I know as a 18 year old your like couple of years or even a decade won't be that bad but trust me when you get to that age it will matter because those are the good years. Years that your retired, your relax with the wife that you've loved for years, surrounded by your kids and grand kids, and you don't have a single thing to worry about...like tests or work.
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Very well said but. Think it might fall ob death ears . But once again that is so well said advice
 
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