Hey guys wondering if you could help me out? I have a bottle of M-Drol which is batch number 52897 JUN2012, I'm on day 12 today and I'm getting nothing as of now. I started with 1 cap for 5 days, then 2 caps for 5 days and today will be my second day at 3 caps. I was pumped to start this cycle after all I've heard of S drol clones but I'm extrememly dissapointed now. So yeah, my question: Is this possibly a bad batch? I was actually planning on stocking up on P-Plex and M-Drol because it never entered my thoughts that this product would not work but now I'm not sure I should. I've responded to other phera's very well but I've never tried CEL's. Any response would be greatly appreciated!
I can assure you that there is not a bad batch of M-Drol. See my detailed reply throughout this post.
Not everyone responds the same to different compounds. It may just simply be that you dont do well with SD or its clones.
I am the last to blash CEL... When I use clones I use them all the time. But how come these issues have popped up with people not feeling anything.
I know u guys test the raws and test the caps but something seems off due to the issue with nonresponse to the compound.
But that being said there are TONS of great reviews on mdrol plus all the other ph/ds you guys offer.
We are just brining to light concerns we have from our experience with your mdrol.
Everyone has every right to ask questions. Fact is though that not everyone responds the same to every compound. All that we as a company can do is provide a top quality product at a cost effective price. We cannot make it work for everyone that uses it as there are many other factors that play into that - diet, training, previous ph usage, etc.
Any update on this issue other than a CEL rep saying it can't be so? I just ordered some M-drol along with an order. It just seems that this issue is coming up WAY to often to be mere coincidence, or non-responders, etc.
Crowbar
This issue hasnt come up very often at all. Batches are literally thousands of bottles of product. There is no item available that everyone responds to. And just because someone doesnt respond to something doesnt make it a bad batch.
I just got mine today: batch # 52897, JUN 2012. Could there be inconsistency in the raw material batches? I don't know how the sourcing and testing procedures work, I'm just throwing ideas out here.
That's the frustrating thing: with little response from CEL we're all left guesing as to what's going on. I do understand to some degree their position; they don't want to respond and potentially legitimize what they probably see as a non-issue. However, this has become FAR to common an experience with CEL's M-drol to be mere coincidence or people's imagination.
Crowbar
The way our inventory is tested is that we send the raw materials off for quality testing before the batch is encapsulated. We test every kilo of raws, so there is no way that a bad kg slips through.
Then we send random bottles from a finished batch to a SEPERATE facility so that the finished goods are tested again for correct mg per cap and quality.
That puts each batch tested by two different facilities to ensure proper quality and correct mg per cap.
As far as your insinuation, not everyone responds to particular compounds. There is a huge amount of feedback on M-drol where people respond incredibly well.
And my lack of response isnt that it is a non-issue; I actually work for the company, so I dont necessarily check the forums everyday if I am too busy. One of the reps alerted me to this thread, so here I am responding. Also, being that I handle most of the incoming customer service emails, I will also point out that we have had zero emails of problems from customers with this batch.
Hope that clarifies some things.
No this thread is pretty much about our concerns with the amount of people claiming that theres a bunk batch of Cel's Mdrol floating around out there, and as sum of us have spent a great deal of money on products for the future, we would like a lil clarity on the situation besides just this response.
This isnt the first time that people have claimed there was a bad batch of something. Not everyone responds differently to the same compounds and there can be a variety of things that determine individual response to any product.
Our testing procedure is to test the raws for quality before they are encapsulated, then have a seperate facility test them for quality and correct mg per cap after encapsulation.
That makes the batches be tested by two different facilities. That is way above and beyond what most companies do.