Lukes epic Cut!

You sure its the epi causing your lethargy? Ive heard guys complain about it while on dmz.

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mustang0341 said:
You sure its the epi causing your lethargy? Ive heard guys complain about it while on dmz.

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No not entirely but I think it's a combination of both. I'm hoping that once I drop Epi, it becomes bearable and I'm not walking around looking for a place to curl up all day lol.
 
I hate lethargy on cycle,sd was the worst ever!
 
Mack411 said:
I hate lethargy on cycle,sd was the worst ever!
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Yeah man it's the worst! Feels like no matter how much coffee or pre workouts I take I still just want to go back to bed.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Yeah man it's the worst! Feels like no matter how much coffee or pre workouts I take I still just want to go back to bed.
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Lay off them bro.
Get some rhodiola, licorice root and Siberian Ginseng
 
runner_79 said:
Help restore adrenal function
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Ahh ok I got ya. Well Epi is def being dropped as of today. I will see how my body reacts to the dmz solo for a week and if there's no improvement I'll be dropping the whole thing and go into pct.
 
Is it that bad bro?i hope it gets better!
 
Mack411 said:
Is it that bad bro?i hope it gets better!
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Some days it's been ridiculous! Other days like today there's nothing at all. See how DMZ solo goes either way it's all over in 3 weeks max.
 
Get a DHT hormone too bro.
Body lacking natural test which is the reason for lethargy.
Stano will help
 
runner_79 said:
Get a DHT hormone too bro.
Body lacking natural test which is the reason for lethargy.
Stano will help
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By the time i order stano and it arrives it will be pct time. Whether I pct in a week or three I think I'll b taking a bit of time off anything hormonal..... Until my test mast tren cycle that is ;)
 
Lukef2000 said:
By the time i order stano and it arrives it will be pct time. Whether I pct in a week or three I think I'll b taking a bit of time off anything hormonal..... Until my test mast tren cycle that is ;)
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Masteron prop is fukin ACE bro...
Let me know where you get it and how much...
Inject?
 
runner_79 said:
Masteron prop is fukin ACE bro...
Let me know where you get it and how much...
Inject?
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Yeah man I've heard really good things! I'll let you know when I'm sourcing my stuff in the new year! Injects all the way! I'm not a fan of the sides when it comes to prohormones !
 
Day 49

Weight unknown

Dosed 40mg epi
Dosed 30mg DMZ
Dosed 6mg albuterol pre workout
4 liv 52 2 am 2 pm
4 aegis liver support 2 am 2pm

Woke up feeling full of energy (nice change) and hit some back! Went to a different gym today and it felt really good!

Back and biceps

Chins
BW x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
BW + 10kg 25lb x 7 x 7 x 5 drop BW x 8

Lat pulldowns
155 x 12 x 12 x 12

Isolateral row ( weight per arm )
50kg 110lb x 11 x 10 x 10

Bent over rows
80kg 175lb x 10 x 10 x 10
Superset
Inverted rows
BW x 10 x 8 x 6

Pump circuit
Hyperextensions
BW + 10kg 25lb x 15 x 15 x 15
Single arm rows
35kg 75lb x 10 x 8 x 8
Straight arm pulldowns
30kg 65lb x 15 x 15 x 13

Alternating DB curls
20kg 45lb dbs x 8
17.5kg 40lb dbs x 9
15kg 35lb x 10 x 10

Hammer curls
15kg 35lb x 10 x 10 x 7

High pulley Double biceps x over
10kg 25lb x 12 x 12 x 12
Superset
Rope cable curls
15kg 35kb x 10 x 10 x 8

Had so much energy for some reason. Didn't want to leave. Had an awesome lat pump after doing 60 or so chins lol. I think that's the most chins I've ever done! Im glad this new gym has two separate gyms. I'm liking the variety.
Cals for day 49 are 2443. 244g protein 126g carbs 17 fibrous 96g fats.
Last day of epi today and I've had not one bit of lethargy whatsoever! Noticing nothing in the sides department atm. Should be interesting to see how the DMZ solo treats me.
 
Dam,awesome update and work man!
 
Lukef2000 said:
Woke up feeling full of energy (nice change) and hit some back! Went to a different gym today and it felt really good!
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Good to hear man

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Glad the lethargy isn't hitting you today,and sides are in check!
 
Day 50

Weight 87.4kg 192.5lb a couple days bad eating is showing the effects here :(

Dosed 30mg DMZ
4 liv52 2 am 2 pm
4 aegis liver support 2 am 2 pm

Today was a planned off day but since I had a couple loose diet days over the last week I decided to do some cleaning up and hit some HIIT. 8 minute warmup 12 mins of 30 on 30-45 off and 5 minute warmdown. Nice and quick as i worked a 13 hour day and that's all I had in me lol. Log dinner then bed.
Had some slight lethargy today but I think that's due to having f*ck all sleep last night. Nothing else happening in the sides department.
Diet was spot on 2107 cals 257g protein 44g carbs 18 fibrous 99g fats.
 
Day 51

Weight 87.4kg 192.5lb

Dosed 30mg DMZ
4 liv52 2 am 2 pm
4 aegis liver support

Had another big day today 13hrs at work plus an hours travel so 14hrs total. Still managed to go down and do a bit or cardio but with shin splints and calve pumps the intensity wasn't there. Jogged 2km rowed 2km and biked for 4km.
Cals for today 2422 protein 269g carbs 56g 16 fibrous 118g fats.
Had my bp checked again today and it's exactly what is was last week so it's def from the DMZ. Not any additional lethargy other than what the long day brings.
Back into the weights tomorrow. Hopefully my legs are feeling better so I can deadlift and squat.
 
what was your bp man? are you taking anything like "hawthorn berry" to bring it down?
 
mustang0341 said:
what was your bp man? are you taking anything like "hawthorn berry" to bring it down?
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Haha well funny story about my hawthorn berry. I must've clicked on the wrong thing when I ordered them as instead of tabs I ended up with 200g of dried hawthorn berries.... Wtf am I supposed to do with them LOL. Bp is still elevated at 140/90 which isn't overly bad but worth mentioning.
 
Sorry about the poor quality but I snapped these this morning as it's been awhile since I put pics up. Also I apologize about the state of my bathroom. It's my workhouse and I don't spend much time there....

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nice,seeing some good shape in traps and back!
 
Lookin sick man. Like Mack said traps are comin in nicely!
 
Mack411 said:
nice,seeing some good shape in traps and back!
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Thanks bro I was surprised I actually have cuts in my back.

Danb2285 said:
Lookin sick man. Like Mack said traps are comin in nicely!
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Thanks man I've seen some pretty nice recomp action on this run!

msrider said:
Dude ur looking awesome. Great run bro!
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Thanks bro! I've still got a long way to go! I seem to have this stubborn band of fat covering my lower abs and back that just won't seem to burn off!! How's your pct coming along bro?
 
daaaaamn bro your arms and shoulders have gotten shredded! Chest looks actually fuller and way more cut than your starting pics as well man and i can clearly see the top 2 abs! im definetly going to have to step up my game. C'mon 'creatine' work better!
 
loafy777 said:
Awesome work man. Oh, and your "workhouse"? Sounds like a good problem to have...
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Thanks man. Yeah my work takes care of me and supply me a 3 bedroom house for $40 a week :)
 
ok, LoL at the pic with a hat and boxers!! Had to point that out.....

lean bro, can def see it in your upper body and arms! side question for you...how long did you run the Albuterol (8wks?) as for the berries I tried to google how many to eat but couldn't find jack....all it says is not to eat the seeds because they contain cyanide. I would imagine that the seeds are gone in the ones you have but just in case. Though I would imagine that amount of cyanide isn't enough to really harm you unless it was in larger amounts, kind of like apple seeds that also contain cyanide but i know people that always eat the whole apple.
 
SkubaSteve89 said:
daaaaamn bro your arms and shoulders have gotten shredded! Chest looks actually fuller and way more cut than your starting pics as well man and i can clearly see the top 2 abs! im definetly going to have to step up my game. C'mon 'creatine' work better!
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Cheers bro!! I've been making some nice improvements! Going to kick it up a notch Friday for five days. Weights in morning with cardio and some LiSS in the afternoon. With DMZ hopefully I shouldn't lose any muscle. I got the official approval of my injects cycle tonight! :) our bulk off is ON!! 8)
 
mustang0341 said:
ok, LoL at the pic with a hat and boxers!! Had to point that out.....

lean bro, can def see it in your upper body and arms! side question for you...how long did you run the Albuterol (8wks?) as for the berries I tried to google how many to eat but couldn't find jack....all it says is not to eat the seeds because they contain cyanide. I would imagine that the seeds are gone in the ones you have but just in case. Though I would imagine that amount of cyanide isn't enough to really harm you unless it was in larger amounts, kind of like apple seeds that also contain cyanide but i know people that always eat the whole apple.
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Haha I was waiting for someone to say something! :D

I'm quite happy with the way things are going at the moment but things should start slowing down when I start pct in a couple weeks. :( I ran the albuterol for about 6 weeks. I think my body may have gotten used to it by then as I wasn't getting any sides at all from it.
Haha cyanide?? Really?? Don't think I'll be touching them then. Or apple cores from now on thanks lol.
I probably won't worry about it now anyways tbh as I've only got a couple weeks to get through so I'm sure I'll be fine it's not that high that I NEED to get it under control.
 
Day 52

Weight 87.0kg 191.8lb

Dosed 30mg DMZ
Dosed 6mg albuterol pre workout
4 liv 52 2 am 2pm
4 aegis liver support 2 am 2 pm

I was going to hit the big three today but my calves were really sore so I skipped squats and just did deads... Lots of deads and finished off with some bench.

Deadlifts
60kg 135lb x 12
100kg 225lb x 10
190kg 430lb x 5 PR weight and reps
180kg 405lb x 6
170kg 375lb x 7
160kg 350lb x 8
140kg 315 x 10 x 10
100kg 225lb x 12

Bench press
100kg 225lb x 10 x 10 x 10 x 9

80 or so reps for deads. My previous PR was 405 for 2 so a 25lb increase thus far. Next week I'm going to try 455lb 200kg. It was quite funny actuality one of the guys from work comes in when I just got the 430 on an he says "don't kid yourself you can't lift that" I spin around and casually say "watch me" and repped out 5! 8)
Today's my changeover between days and nights so it's carb day. Cals 3743 protein 326g carbs 426g 25 fibrous fats 87g. Love me carb day.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Cheers bro!! I've been making some nice improvements! Going to kick it up a notch Friday for five days. Weights in morning with cardio and some LiSS in the afternoon. With DMZ hopefully I shouldn't lose any muscle. I got the official approval of my injects cycle tonight! :) our bulk off is ON!! 8)
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niice man, it'll definetly be close as to who can get the most shredded! aah lucky dude! it will definetly be a much more enjoyable comp i can tell you, this cutting sucks!
 
SkubaSteve89 said:
niice man, it'll definetly be close as to who can get the most shredded! aah lucky dude! it will definetly be a much more enjoyable comp i can tell you, this cutting sucks!
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Yeah man i think you'll edge me out during the later stages due to me having to go natty for awhile to keep the girl happy. Haha yeah bro cutting sucks ass. It's worth it when you see your physique changing... still sucks tho lol
 
Lukef2000 said:
Yeah man i think you'll edge me out during the later stages due to me having to go natty for awhile to keep the girl happy. Haha yeah bro cutting sucks ass. It's worth it when you see your physique changing... still sucks tho lol
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hahaha hey hey who said i was doing anything other than creatine and 20 bananas a day eh? :P aah the joys of having a judgemental missus eh? if you had to make a choice between her and chemical perfection...atleast the tren doesnt talk back to you (well the good stuff anyways) ;) haha yeah im sort of happy with the changes so far, though i wont be satisified till i get of these damn jelly rolls!
 
Lukef2000 said:
Haha well funny story about my hawthorn berry. I must've clicked on the wrong thing when I ordered them as instead of tabs I ended up with 200g of dried hawthorn berries.... Wtf am I supposed to do with them LOL. Bp is still elevated at 140/90 which isn't overly bad but worth mentioning.
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Shoot down to the Chemist Warehouse. They sell Hawthorne Berry capsules pretty cheap.

Good work bro.
 
ozHarris said:
Shoot down to the Chemist Warehouse. They sell Hawthorne Berry capsules pretty cheap.

Good work bro.
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Cheers oz! Might have to shoot down when I get back to Mackay on Saturday.
 
SkubaSteve89 said:
hahaha hey hey who said i was doing anything other than creatine and 20 bananas a day eh? :P aah the joys of having a judgemental missus eh? if you had to make a choice between her and chemical perfection...atleast the tren doesnt talk back to you (well the good stuff anyways) ;) haha yeah im sort of happy with the changes so far, though i wont be satisified till i get of these damn jelly rolls!
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Hahah well if that's the case bro I need your source for said bananas and creatine lol!
Yeah it's quite frustrating actually man but she's coming around to the idea slowly. Haha well I've heard tren can Fu*k with your head so who knows maybe it might talk back to me... Lol! :D
Man what you've done is quite impressive so don't sell yourself short! You've lost weight, put on muscle and increased in strength! But I know how you feel f*cking jelly rolls!! :D
 
Day 53

Weight 87.8kg 193.5lb

Dosed 6mg albuterol pre workout
Dosed 30mg DMZ
4 liv52 2 am 2pm
4 aegis liver support 2 am 2pm

I didn't have a spotter today so I couldn't do shoulders ( need spotter to help me get the 90s up ) so I hit some arms instead. Had a sleeping pill hangover as well so arms was an easy choice lol.

Arms day

Alternating DB curls
22.5kg 50lb DBS x 8 PR! weight and reps
20kg 45lb DBS x 9
17.5kg 40lb x 10 x 8

Alternating hammer curls DB
17.5kg 40lb x 10 x 9 x 6

Ez bar curls
38.5kg 85lb x 10 x 8 x 8
28.5kg 60lb x 12

Rope cable curls
No weight on stack but 3 x 9-12

Seated DB extensions
45kg 100lb x 12 x 12 x 12 will deff up this next time. PR reps

Ez bar skullcrushers
38.5kg 85lb x 10 x 8 x 8
28.5kg 60lb x 12

V bar pressdowns
No weights on stack but 3 x 10-12

Pump set
Single arm reverse pressdowns
No weights on stack but 3 x 10-12
Reverse BB curls
25kg 55lb x 10 x 10 x 10
Wrist curls BB
25kg 55lb x 15 x 15 x 15

V bar press downs
No weights on stack but 3 x 30
Superset
V bar curls
No weight on stack but 3 x 30

Had a sweet pump. Got the PR on curls and seated db extensions quite easily actually will try bumping up the weight next arm day. Looking forward to getting five days off come tomorrow morning. Going to tear sh*t up in the gym!!
Cals for today will be 2579 protein 237 carbs 86g 28 fibrous 145g fats
All sides seem to be in check :)
 
Day 54

Weight not recorded

Dosed 30mg DMZ
4 liv 52 2 am 2 pm
4 aegis liver support 2 am2 pm

So my plan on tearing ish up in the gym isn't off to a good start because the gym is closed due to a mma tournament.
Cals so far are only at 1470 but I'll probably grab something at this fight. I'll keep it healthy if possible of not I'll have nothing and just have a protein shake with some natty PB.
Will tear ish up tomorrow ;)
 
i got it in my log too,i was like,ah hell no.
 
Last update pics look sick bro! Incredible progress very nice job!
 
Lukef2000 said:
Thanks bro! Been working my ass off lol :D
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Well it shows man! Difference is night and day!
 
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