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looking for 5 poeple each for alpha testing of trenavar and mendione

oogaly_boogal said:
this and the title
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Just wanted to I wasnt trying to be a prick about what I said about this being alpha testing or whatever, so if I came across wrong I did not mean to. Basically I was just trying to say they are not sure at what dosing should be so just trying to see what works for people. I am guessing on paper they think the compund will be much stronger than others, so there is no need or would might be potentially dangerous if it was to be ran at 90-120mgs like others. I dont think they will have many answers until they see some real world results. good luck man, I will be watching how it goes for you
 
bigbeef said:
Just wanted to I wasnt trying to be a prick about what I said about this being alpha testing or whatever, so if I came across wrong I did not mean to. Basically I was just trying to say they are not sure at what dosing should be so just trying to see what works for people. I am guessing on paper they think the compund will be much stronger than others, so there is no need or would might be potentially dangerous if it was to be ran at 90-120mgs like others. I dont think they will have many answers until they see some real world results. good luck man, I will be watching how it goes for you
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No i agree with you, I'm just saying the company should have rephrased this as being a beta testing.
 
IBE said:
I look at alpha and beta being about the same thing
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Sorry for being a pain in the ass. I just don't want to die haha
 
My wanker feels funny when i take trenavar. As if my urethra is clogged.
 
What are some supporting supplements allowed take while logging trenavar? I try to be as safe as possible since I messed up when I was younger and have learned the hard way,
So I usually preload a cycle assist supplement for 2 weeks and while I'm on cycle, also stuff liken
 
Bagged01 said:
What are some supporting supplements allowed take while logging trenavar? I try to be as safe as possible since I messed up when I was younger and have learned the hard way,
So I usually preload a cycle assist supplement for 2 weeks and while I'm on cycle, also stuff liken
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doing that kind of defeats the purpose of alpha/beta testing a product. if you are that worried, you should of let someone else test this product thoroughly.
 
Bagged01 said:
What are some supporting supplements allowed take while logging trenavar? I try to be as safe as possible since I messed up when I was younger and have learned the hard way,
So I usually preload a cycle assist supplement for 2 weeks and while I'm on cycle, also stuff liken
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B12
Fish oil
Multi vit
Vitamin c
Creatine
Hcgenerate
Formastanzol
 
_mArs_ said:
formastanzol at like 5- 7 pumps twice a day would be a good one
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with topical formestane, w/e brand you use, i would recomend using it at 100mg every other day.

using it every day even at 100mg will probably be too much.

but as i said before, doing this kind of defeats the purpose of alpha/beta testing the product.

"product was great, no bloating, lean gains, no sides at all, and i was only running an ai every day, while using cycle support pre/intra/post cycle."

that really gives ibe/phf an idea of how to dose/rec this product.
 
IBE said:
Right now trenavar looks to be I would say 20-30mg a day. PA said he thinks 10mg would be good but who knows untill we try it
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it's only 3 days in, but so far, im liking 10mg. yea, i want to bump it up to 20, but 10mg seems to be doing some changes, already.
 
jbryand101b said:
doing that kind of defeats the purpose of alpha/beta testing a product. if you are that worried, you should of let someone else test this product thoroughly.
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i feel ya, gonna start tomorrow, what are you guys mixing it with, some water? or just taking it alone
 
Bagged01 said:
B12
Fish oil
Multi vit
Vitamin c
Creatine
Hcgenerate
Formastanzol
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Can erase taken 1 a day substitute the formastane?
or 6 bromo I have both.
 
Bagged01 said:
i feel ya, gonna start tomorrow, what are you guys mixing it with, some water? or just taking it alone
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put a little water or juice with it.

i tried something new today, i took my oral syringe, squirted 1ml of juice under my tounge, then 1ml of menta, didn't burn much. liked it like that.

you could also just mix it in a shot glass with half a shot of something, and then mix in your ment, down the hatch.

menta bombs! :lmao:
 
Mentdione will have to be spit up in dosing, Henry posted a study saying the half life is like 40 minutes so I would either try 5mg/ half ML about 3-4 times a day. it's looking like we are going to do 5mg caps taking 3-4 times days.
 
If it converts into true tren half life should be around an entire day right?
 
IBE said:
Mentdione will have to be spit up in dosing, Henry posted a study saying the half life is like 40 minutes so I would either try 5mg/ half ML about 3-4 times a day. it's looking like we are going to do 5mg caps taking 3-4 times days.
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the first 2 studies to me suggest it is possibly longer than 40 min half life.
henryv said:
MENT is rapidly absorbed in the body, reaches peak levels by 1–2 h after single intramuscular administration and disappears from blood within 24 h [4]; (v) pharmacokinetic studies have shown that the metabolic clearance rate (MCR) of MENT is much faster than T. The faster MCR can be attributed, in part, to the finding that, in contrast to testosterone, MENT showed no binding to sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG)
Steroids 74 (2009) 121–131





To investigate the pharmacokinetics of MENT after i.m. administration, single i.m. injections of 2, 4 or 8 mg of micronized MENT were given in aqueous suspension to 18 healthy men in two clinics. Blood was sampled frequently for 8 h and 1, 2, 3, 4 and 9 days after the injections. Serum MENT concentrations were determined by radioimmunoassay. Peak MENT concentrations were dose-dependent and were reached about 1-2 h after the injections. Doubling the dose of MENT resulted in an increase of 60% in peak serum MENT concentrations. The mean +/- SE clearance rate was 1790 +/- 140 l/day.
Hum Reprod. 1997 May;12(5):967-73.




In normal men, a single intravenous bolus of 500µg of MENT led to peak serum MENT levels at 3 minutes after dosing (when the first samples were collected), followed by an exponential decline, reaching undetectable levels by 180 minutes. The average terminal half-life and the metabolic clearance rate (MCR) were calculated to be 40 minutes and 2,360 Lfday, respectively.
J Androl 1997;18:352–8.
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first two are intramuscular, and the third one is intravenous.

either way, half life is short, and if you want to keep blood levels steady, you should dose it multiple times per day.
 
Bagged01 said:
we see i might just mix it with some juice, are you guys swallowing right away or holding for a couple of sec?
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i hold it in for about 30 seconds. move it around from cheak to cheak, then under my tounge, then swallow. let all those mucous membranes get some before it goes down the hatch.
 
Please post links to your logs in this thread. Kthxbai :)
 
Looks like I won't be starting till maybe Wednesday, kids got sick and it's a nasty chain reaction I'm down with a 102 fever. Crap at least I won't have to work on a roof today
 
_mArs_ said:
i've got something too... i can't even eat
i tried... but it's not staying down... :raincloud:
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Ya idk my son had phenomena but no symptoms only fevers no coughs or sinus just fever the doctors had to give him 4 shots blood test and do a chest xray, the. He passed it on to my older son and me.
 
Can we even post log links from PH? My log is pretty damn easy to find if you go over there.
 
Since no one wants me logging this stuff due to age bias, how much do i owe for the compound, would rather pay for it than ship it back as it's inconvenient.
 
oogaly_boogal said:
Since no one wants me logging this stuff due to age bias, how much do i owe for the compound, would rather pay for it than ship it back as it's inconvenient.
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Say what all of this should have been asked and screened before shipped, that sucks bro let me know what's up
 
Bagged01 said:
Say what all of this should have been asked and screened before shipped, that sucks bro let me know what's up
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Agreed.
 
jbryand101b said:
what are you talking about?

if you are scared to take it, just say so, otherwise, what are you waiting for?
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Over at ph not here bro. 99% of my log is people saying i shouldnt log it etc.
 
ah, man, you gotta understand where they are comming from.

dont sweat it, just run the compound at 10mg e/d.

yea, it was a screw up on your part, and phf/ibe's part. it already happened get past it, and work with what we got now.

we got a newb (you) and a potent ph, this can still be useful.

now, here is what you need to know bro.

this is a pro hormone to trenbolone.

this compound isn't even listed in vida. it would technically be considered, a designer pro hormone, but it can be tested for, as im sure it has the same metabolites as trenbolone.

with that said, the best info you will get is going to be from researching tren ace, or tren suspension (suspension will be the closest)

d/t the nature of trenbolone's structure, it has decent oral availability already, and this can provide some hepatotoxicity.

this compound is truly a mystery, and yea, an experienced user, esp one who has ran pro dienolone would of been better, but it is what it is.

save some face and stop asking questions about things you experience, as most of those people over there have no idea what they are talking about and will just talk shiit and spread bro science.

just report what you notice and try not to act suprised, as anything is possible.

if you have questions, pm me, henry v, brymaster, or patrick arnold, we may not get back to you right away, but i know i will do my best to answer questions you have.
 
Lol my mistake? I have read up on trenbolone etc i know the sides and what to look for. All i said originally was my wanker felt funny which it did. Not being paranoid in saying what happened would you rather i lie and say this **** is gold in a bottle. Its a log if you wanted an unbias review log it yourself and lie to the public.

As for my questionnaire i was simply inquiring if it truly converts into real pure trenbolone. That would influence my dosing as true tren has a 48+ hour half life.
 
Where do you want the logs? Under company promotions? And what title do you want, I will logging and updating every Tuesday Thursday and Saturday unless I feel a change within one day. Will start dosing on Monday
 
oogaly_boogal said:
Lol my mistake? I have read up on trenbolone etc i know the sides and what to look for. All i said originally was my wanker felt funny which it did. Not being paranoid in saying what happened would you rather i lie and say this **** is gold in a bottle. Its a log if you wanted an unbias review log it yourself and lie to the public.

As for my questionnaire i was simply inquiring if it truly converts into real pure trenbolone. That would influence my dosing as true tren has a 48+ hour half life.
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it is your mistake because this seems to be your first cycle, and with that, you will not be able to make any kind of comparison on anything but different than normal.

so yes, your fault for applying for the log opportunity,and ibe/phf's for giving it to you.

like i said, whats done is done, have to work with what you've been given/got.
 
jbryand101b said:
it is your mistake because this seems to be your first cycle, and with that, you will not be able to make any kind of comparison on anything but different than normal.

so yes, your fault for applying for the log opportunity,and ibe/phf's for giving it to you.

like i said, whats done is done, have to work with what you've been given/got.
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Granted I won't be able to compare it to prohormones as I have only taken 6-oxo/viraloid/etc. but I'm preeeetty sure that a 20 year old, that already is pissing out testosterone, noticing strength gains on lifts that are :deadlifting 505, bench225 for reps and squat 315 for reps, bent over rows 225 for reps, while weighting 172, would be a pretty damn valid assessment of how strong this stuff is.

I'm not some 40 year old with 15 inch arms thinking im massive and strong because I can bench 315 and deadlift 315 while weighting 225+lb. I have worked for what I have pretty naturally, now it's time to go further.
 
oogaly_boogal said:
Granted I won't be able to compare it to prohormones as I have only taken 6-oxo/viraloid/etc. but I'm preeeetty sure that a 20 year old, that already is pissing out testosterone, noticing strength gains on lifts that are :deadlifting 505, bench225 for reps and squat 315 for reps, bent over rows 225 for reps, while weighting 172, would be a pretty damn valid assessment of how strong this stuff is.

I'm not some 40 year old with 15 inch arms thinking im massive and strong because I can bench 315 and deadlift 315 while weighting 225+lb. I have worked for what I have pretty naturally, now it's time to go further.
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na, not really, im sorry to put it so bluntly, but it's just the truth, all you will be able to do is compare it to normal.

you could pretty much use any androgenic/anabolic compound for your first cycle, and the results are going to blow your mind.

testosterone is week in reality (compared to other synthetic compounds) even at a ripe young 20 with t levels through the roof, still doesn't compare to supraphysiological dosages.
 
You have many other people to compare this to other prohormones. If its effective on me that says a lot. Do you not realize it is a pro for the company rather than a negative? If i make androgenic gains that says a lot since my body is pretty tapped at the lifts in doing. Anyways get off my sack. Your criticism doesnt do anything other than make you an ass that thinks he is all knowing and wise.
 
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