g0hardorgohom
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LOG: Dienedione + The One: first rodeo since 2019
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g0hardorgohom
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Day 31
Training session: lower body
1. Deadlift, no belt
2x455
2. Squat, no belt
3x320
1x330
+ accessory work
Deadlift was very easy, I think there was at least 3-4 more reps in the tank.
My lat cramped painfully after deadlifts. It still hurts. I have to start stretching more.
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Training session: lower body
1. Deadlift, no belt
2x455
2. Squat, no belt
3x320
1x330
+ accessory work
Deadlift was very easy, I think there was at least 3-4 more reps in the tank.
My lat cramped painfully after deadlifts. It still hurts. I have to start stretching more.
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g0hardorgohom
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Front squats to the bench, DB lunges, core work and grip training (usually timed pinch holds with plates).
Segansational
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Dang dude, 405 on the deadlift already after coming off a hiatus. Pretty strong work!
g0hardorgohom
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455*
I bet 1RM is already +500 but we’ll see. I think I’ll try 1RM’s next week.
Today was just massage. Now two lighter training sessions and then it’s time to add more weights to the bar.
Segansational
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Ha! You're right! Didn't mean to cheat you out of 50# - I'm so far off those numbers even at my personal best that I can't even fathom.
g0hardorgohom
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Day 35
Training session: full body deload
1. Incline bench press
6x190, first and last rep with pause
6x195, first and last rep with pause
6x200, first and last rep with pause
6x205, first rep with pause
2x210
2. Squat
3x330
2x345
1x355
Deload session after massage. Only two exercises, low volume.
I’ll go back to regular routine on Saturday except I’ll stay away from deadlifts for one week and I’ll keep it light at lat pulldowns.
Strength was good today!
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Training session: full body deload
1. Incline bench press
6x190, first and last rep with pause
6x195, first and last rep with pause
6x200, first and last rep with pause
6x205, first rep with pause
2x210
2. Squat
3x330
2x345
1x355
Deload session after massage. Only two exercises, low volume.
I’ll go back to regular routine on Saturday except I’ll stay away from deadlifts for one week and I’ll keep it light at lat pulldowns.
Strength was good today!
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g0hardorgohom
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Day 37
Training session: upper body
1. Close grip bench press
1x255
1x265
1x285
8x230, every rep with pause
2. Lat pulldown machine
9x110
9x155
9x200
3. Standing barbell press
5x145
5x155
4. Shitloads of supersetted DB curls and side lateral raise machine
Chest felt tight after Thursday’s incline bench so I decided to skip it today.
Lat still bothers my after last Sunday’s accident. I won’t do any upper back training until Thursday so hopefully I’ll be able to max out at deadlifts.
I definitely feel that I need proper deload but I’ll grind for one more week and then I’ll fly to warm and sunny Montenegro
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Training session: upper body
1. Close grip bench press
1x255
1x265
1x285
8x230, every rep with pause
2. Lat pulldown machine
9x110
9x155
9x200
3. Standing barbell press
5x145
5x155
4. Shitloads of supersetted DB curls and side lateral raise machine
Chest felt tight after Thursday’s incline bench so I decided to skip it today.
Lat still bothers my after last Sunday’s accident. I won’t do any upper back training until Thursday so hopefully I’ll be able to max out at deadlifts.
I definitely feel that I need proper deload but I’ll grind for one more week and then I’ll fly to warm and sunny Montenegro
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g0hardorgohom
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I will!
We were there in our honeymoon back in 2018, I really loved the place.
We visited Albania and Croatia at the same trip. Balkan is really interesting place - not very familiar for most Europeans.
Year after our honeymoon we travelled to Albania, Northern Macedonia and Kosovo. Lake Ohrid in Macedonia is definitely a place worth visiting!
Since then the only warm place we’ve travelled to is Spain, we’d like to buy an apartment from there. I’d have wanted to go to Spain this time too but wife said that three trips to same place in 7 months is too much especially If we want to stay there for half of the year in the furure…
Smont
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Every Albanian i have ever met was fuking bonkers lol. They make Albania sound very crazy too. We had 2 or 3 albinian families that came here about 20 to 25 years ago and they worked in my uncle's restaurant, Within about 10 years they all have their own restaurants in businesses. With the exception of the few of them that are in jail because they were just too crazy lol. One of them comes to visit Almost every time he gets out of jail but he always goes back lol. Hes good with us, just not with any person he dosent personally know lol
g0hardorgohom
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Day 42 (last day of the cycle)
Morning weight: 213,6lbs (+11,4lbs)
Training session: full body
1. Incline bench press, first rep with pause
5x220lbs PR
2. Squat
1x365lbs
1x375lbs
3. Close grip bench press, first rep with pause
3x265
4. Lat pulldown machine
12x245lbs
5. Supersetted bicep curls and side lateral raises
Vid:
First and last session this week. After Saturday’s session I felt totally beaten up and lost my appetite - I needed few days of rest.
Didn’t get to try real 1RM’s this week but I’m still happy!
Overall thoughts of this cycle:
What I’d do different next time:
What next:
Morning weight: 213,6lbs (+11,4lbs)
Training session: full body
1. Incline bench press, first rep with pause
5x220lbs PR
2. Squat
1x365lbs
1x375lbs
3. Close grip bench press, first rep with pause
3x265
4. Lat pulldown machine
12x245lbs
5. Supersetted bicep curls and side lateral raises
Vid:
First and last session this week. After Saturday’s session I felt totally beaten up and lost my appetite - I needed few days of rest.
Didn’t get to try real 1RM’s this week but I’m still happy!
Overall thoughts of this cycle:
- great strength gains, you can find starting point from page 1
- good size gains, especially my back grew a lot
- very minimal sides, nothing to notice after I dropped dienedione
- The One is excellent ”test base”. Energy and libido were good through whole cycle
- Methylstenbolone was much better than what I remembered from years ago
What I’d do different next time:
- no dienedione when I have to wake up early. That stuff really messes with alepinnaan
- methyls for maximum of 5 weeks, I think loss of appetite may be due to too long time on methyls
What next:
- PCT. Clomid 50/50/25/25 and CEL Cloma-Plex
- gyno surgery in 2,5 weeks
- one week in Montenegro. I’ll eat shitloads of sea food
- lots of cardio and training after surgery
- next cycle at some point next year. I have test, H-Drol, M1A, dienedione, methylstenbolone and The One in my stash.
g0hardorgohom
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WickedWarlock
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Wish I had hdrol lol
. The one is pretty fantastic though. I loved that stuff. Out of your orals listed M1A gives me the most. You could run a super DMZ 3 clone. Pretty sure super DMZ 3.0 was msten and m1a. Maybe it also had Dimethazine
Smont
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Nice triple dude! i locked up the other day and couldn't break 465 off the floor and it was supposed to be a triple. Sucked balls lolDay 12 of PCT.
Everything is going well. Pulled 3x465 without belt today.
Montenegro was beautiful but I got food poisoning thereWeight is down but strength is great!
Smont
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Or ditch all that for 100mg of anadrol per day, just sayingWish I had hdrol lol
i do like dmz, msten and hdrol tho. All 3 of them treat me well
WickedWarlock
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I got a bottle of vicious labs DMZ I still gotta use at some point lolOr ditch all that for 100mg of anadrol per day, just saying
Smont
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I used the necrobombs earlier this year. Wasn't disappointed at all. I wasn't eating a lot so the size gains were minimal but cosmetically it made a big difference and my strength went up pretty quick
Hyde
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90mg of SDMZ3, 30mg each of Msten/M1A/DMZ, will absolutely be more anabolic than 100mg Drol, FWIW.Or ditch all that for 100mg of anadrol per day, just saying
You’ll also feel even worse, with worse labs lol. The Drol would be better for strength, but not actual lean mass.
g0hardorgohom
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My all time favourite for strength was low dose test E, tren E and preworkout both Halotestin and tren base. Those were good days…
Smont
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You would have worse labs and feel worse on anadrol? Not me, I would have better labs and feel better on drol. Anadrol makes me feel awsome. Well, it dosent make me feel awsome, i feel normal. Ecxpt for the lower back pumps being nuts i feel normal. If i wasn't nursing injuries id be slamming some right now.
Anyone wanna see a wreckless 150mg of anadrol per day log lol.
im in too much pain for that but once im fixed up id do it. I know drol trashes some ppl but as a whole i think drol is no worse then any other oral. Mg vs mg its probably less harsh. 100mg winni or dbol would be significantly worse for me.
This is all pretty irrelevant as personal opinion from past experiences plays a big role, and i seem to not get many sides besides tits
.Anyone wanna see a wreckless 150mg of anadrol per day log lol.
im in too much pain for that but once im fixed up id do it. I know drol trashes some ppl but as a whole i think drol is no worse then any other oral. Mg vs mg its probably less harsh. 100mg winni or dbol would be significantly worse for me.
This is all pretty irrelevant as personal opinion from past experiences plays a big role, and i seem to not get many sides besides tits
g0hardorgohom
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I also never felt too bad on Anadrol.You would have worse labs and feel worse on anadrol? Not me, I would have better labs and feel better on drol. Anadrol makes me feel awsome. Well, it dosent make me feel awsome, i feel normal. Ecxpt for the lower back pumps being nuts i feel normal. If i wasn't nursing injuries id be slamming some right now
Anyone wanna see a wreckless 150mg of anadrol per day log lol.
im in too much pain for that but once im fixed up id do it. I know drol trashes some ppl but as a whole i think drol is no worse then any other oral. Mg vs mg its probably less harsh. 100mg winni or dbol would be significantly worse for me.
This is all pretty irrelevant as personal opinion from past experiences plays a big role, and i seem to not get many sides besides tits
Worst orals for me have been Dianabol and M1,4ADD, mainly because they give me gyno at first day.
All orals hit my appetite after 4 or 5 weeks though, even at low-ish dose.
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No you read my comment wrong. I was saying the SDMZ3 combo is much more potent for lean mass, but also feels/is worse for you per mg. That’s why it’s funny - it works very well l, but you’re not going to be able to actually use it long enough to be worthwhile.You would have worse labs and feel worse on anadrol? Not me, I would have better labs and feel better on drol. Anadrol makes me feel awsome. Well, it dosent make me feel awsome, i feel normal. Ecxpt for the lower back pumps being nuts i feel normal. If i wasn't nursing injuries id be slamming some right now
Anyone wanna see a wreckless 150mg of anadrol per day log lol.
im in too much pain for that but once im fixed up id do it. I know drol trashes some ppl but as a whole i think drol is no worse then any other oral. Mg vs mg its probably less harsh. 100mg winni or dbol would be significantly worse for me.
This is all pretty irrelevant as personal opinion from past experiences plays a big role, and i seem to not get many sides besides tits
Msten at 30mg alone sends my blood pressure through the roof. DMZ always killed my appetite by day 5 and makes me incredibly lethargic. M1A is good, as far as orals go for me, but I still barely made 20 days last time I used it before needing a week break.
Hyde
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Tren Base is where it’s at for preWO peaking man, no joke. Talk about flipping the switch, then being able to chill out the rest of the day to recover and not be a dick.
WickedWarlock
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I never lost appetite on any orals. M1A is easily in the top 3 of my favorites for all around effects. I am pretty sure originally it was marketed for 3 week cycles anyways. SD is the only one that has made me lethargic in a measurable sense. Halodrol is hands down the best overall oral for me
Hyde
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All orals kill my appetite and give me acid reflux now, very quickly
WickedWarlock
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Shitty. I have acid reflux no matter what everyday lol only oral that made it really bad was rad140. Couldn’t imagine no eating on an oral though. That sucksAll orals kill my appetite and give me acid reflux now, very quickly
Smont
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Gotcha, ya i was confused cus i remember you saying msten caused you problems. I know most make kill your appetite. Does dbol kill your appetite? I feel like dbol use to make me hungry. i was also 10 years younger then now and always hungry.
Hyde
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So Dbol, and very specifically just Dbol, does this bizarre thing where it nearly immobilizes my gut. Like I lose gut motility, things stop digesting right day 1 - I start getting heartburn end of day, stop being hungry, get constipated, my stomach starts distending as food piles up.
I love the mood boost and strength on Dbol, it makes me feel loaded with water & strength so fast, but I cannot tolerate it orally besides random single days on it. I basically add 20mg into my stack on meet day because it feels so good.
I have seen this from different sources of Dbol, including ‘Var’ that for sure tested out as Dbol with my kit, and the gut thing always happens by day 2. Injectable Dbol however I can run no problem, except the solvents make my scalp psoriasis go nuts after a week. So I don’t really do injectables that require extra solvents except on specific preWO uses like for peaking. Better to just take more **** that isn’t so hard on the body.
WickedWarlock
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Tren immobilized my gut. Constipation from hell
Stacks1
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I never had an issue with dbol and M1,4ADD. Dbol gets so much hate nowadays. I guess mostly because there are so many other alternatives now compared to years ago. But I always feel like dbol has the least amount of side effects for me. I also found it has maybe the lowest impact on my lipids.
WickedWarlock
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How do you normally dose it? 30mgs or less for me is actually the sweet spot
g0hardorgohom
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Gyno surgery done.
Now 2-3 weeks off from the gym and then back to work.
Gonna try to lose some fat and maintain strength in the next few months.
Planning next cycle already.
Thinking about
Low dose (60mg) dienedione for 8 weeks
Low dose (probably 50mg) The One, only goal for it is to keep libido up OR 200ish mg of test per week
+ either H-Drol for 6 weeks, M-Sten for 5 weeks or M1A for 4 weeks.
High dose TUDCA (probably 750mg) through the whole cycle + Letrone or Adex if needed
Now 2-3 weeks off from the gym and then back to work.
Gonna try to lose some fat and maintain strength in the next few months.
Planning next cycle already.
Thinking about
Low dose (60mg) dienedione for 8 weeks
Low dose (probably 50mg) The One, only goal for it is to keep libido up OR 200ish mg of test per week
+ either H-Drol for 6 weeks, M-Sten for 5 weeks or M1A for 4 weeks.
High dose TUDCA (probably 750mg) through the whole cycle + Letrone or Adex if needed
Segansational
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How was the experience? They need to put you fully under I'm assuming? How long was the surgery, etc.
g0hardorgohom
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They put me to sleep.
I woke up 3 hours after going to the surgery room (4.5 hours ago)
Those ”lumps” were huge. I have a photo but I don’t want to make anyone nauseous.
I bet that those two ”lumps” weighted approximately 1 pound total and on top of that they took 1.3lbs of fat from my chest… So I lost more than 2lbs in total and my chest looks totally different already.
Now I’m still quite heavily drugged but I don’t have any pain unless I move my upper arms. Chest and armpits are totally black though. Huge bruises.
Can’t wait to see how my chest looks after healing and after few training sesson.
I can start light training (arms and isolating excercises to legs - no back, chest, delts, squats or deadlifts) on Saturday next week and probably a week after that I can start doing light chest and back training also. And one more week and I can start lifting heavy, if everything goes well.
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PolishHamm3r77
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Good luck w the post op healing process!!!
Glad things went well w the procedure
g0hardorgohom
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This was actually second surgery, first one went bad and that’s why we needed another one.
First time after drugging me the Doctor said that ”Oops, I don’t have all equipment that is needed for best possible result”. And I’m a business owner and I had cleaned my calendar because of that surgery so we did it anyway.
She also left some of the tissue inside me (which I protested because I knew that risk of it growing back is big) and 2 months after surgery gyno was back.
This time it was other doctor who did the surgery. He removed everything and made sure that he had all needed equipment there…
Insurance covered everything but total cost for insurance company was 14000 euros. If everything would’ve been done properly, cost would’ve been only 4000 euros. Makes me feel sad and angry because I work in insurance business.
PolishHamm3r77
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Absolutely CRAZY to hear a Dr say that! “Oops”.
I had a distal bicep tendon rupture repaired in 2012. 1pm surgery kept getting bumped as the E.R. Was busy that day. At 9p.m. My Dr comes in, pulls out a sharpie, writes on my good arm, “NOT THIS ARM”, caps the marker and says, “we’ve been waiting a while and I’m tired, don’t want to mess up. I’ll be back when an O.R. frees up!” Needless to say I didn’t have a warm and fuzzy going into it. Got out of surgery at 12:15a.m. and it was a success.
WickedWarlock
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You know that’s like a joke 99% of OR doctors say right? He wasnt serious
PolishHamm3r77
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It may have dawned on me that he was being a bit sarcastic. BUT when you show up at 11:45am for a 1pm surgery and the reason you get pushed back so far is due to a fat guy that wiped his arse poorly and had a cyst that needed to be drained surgically for the second time that week, you are not in the best of moods. HIPPA went right out the window when I heard his surgeons venting about how nasty it was. They described it like feta cheese.
Stacks1
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I don't go high at all. 20mgs is where I like to be.
Stacks1
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That's pretty crazy. Personally, I would have called it off and found another surgeon.
g0hardorgohom
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4,5 weeks since finishing cycle.
PCT was smooth - libido is normal. I’ve been eating properly whole time.
Today was my first training session after gyno surgery. There is still some pain so just single-joint work at this point.
Hopefully I can start doing bench press, squat, deadlift and upper back training next weekend.
Can’t wait to start filling this weird-looking chest with new muscle mass.
PCT was smooth - libido is normal. I’ve been eating properly whole time.
Today was my first training session after gyno surgery. There is still some pain so just single-joint work at this point.
Hopefully I can start doing bench press, squat, deadlift and upper back training next weekend.
Can’t wait to start filling this weird-looking chest with new muscle mass.
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Hyde
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It’s a marathon!
g0hardorgohom
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True that. Actually got permission from doctor to start light training already.
4 sets of 20 @ 55lbs incline press
4 sets of 15 @ 125lbs lat pulldown machine
4 sets of 20 @ 60lbs pec deck
4 sets of 5 @ 235 SSB-squat
It’s a start!