L-Carnitine Gel by XPG - L-Carnitine & Propionyl L-Carnitine (PLCAR) - Available Now!

Resolve10 said:
Quick update since I’m finishing first bottle with another on the way.

Usually 3 pumps per day with that being all pre or 2 am and 2 pm on days I split training.

I feel I’ve noticed quite a bit, only other major change has been Prime XT tho so keep that in mind.

I notice a body temp increase, especially on the areas I appy. I can “feel” the application on this a little more than other XPG products I’ve used.

Pumps! I definitely seem to notice an increase in fullness, vascular and pump pretty much right away. Not as drastic as with something like Pump Gel, but definitely noticeable.

Endurance is really solid. I’m doing a heavy running block right now and in conjunction with beta alanine, ornithine, and citrulline I am barely noticing any “burn” on my faster paced run intervals.

Shoulders seem to have leaned out and vascularity is very pronounced right now.

Recovery and strength are solid, but I’m also just starting a new training cycle so things are still kind of returning to baseline and I added prime in midway through the first bottle.

Not the best pic, but the shoulders and chest really are covered in veins lately (this was during a lower body session…).
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JFC you’re an absolute unit
 
My wife been using Suppress C and L Carnitine Gels by XPG , she works out 3 days a week and keeps a very solid diet and it has certainly been a big help in her recent weight loss. So I’d def say it’s worth it. I am quickly becoming a fan of topical gels as I’m using a few XPGs myself and when they are out imma try a few different ones
 
Resolve10 said:
Smoke and mirrors. 😋

I’m not that big but I stay relatively lean so it helps give that illusion.

I should have noted I am basically a carnitine addict and may just use this stuff pretty long term since I’m enjoying it so far.
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Did I order the wrong XPG gel? I went for 7OXO, although I'm sure they both work in different ways. Would love to run both but stack is already so expensive
 
Resolve10 said:
Smoke and mirrors.

I’m not that big but I stay relatively lean so it helps give that illusion.

I should have noted I am basically a carnitine addict and may just use this stuff pretty long term since I’m enjoying it so far.
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But the density of your muscle definitely shows years of hard-ass training. You can’t fake muscle maturity
 
I wanted to let anyone in the UK/EU interested in this know that Unreal has it available now.

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Took my first dose today & currently at the gym.

Things to note already :

1. Recovery in between sets dramatically increased.
2. Sweating very very quickly. After my first heavy set.
3. Definite No-tropic benefit 30 mins after taking - very eurphoric
 
Is anyone running this at 4 pumps ?

I’m already taking 7OXO at 4 pumps & wanted to stack these two. Is 4&4 too much?
 
Joshlm69 said:
Is anyone running this at 4 pumps ?
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I have tried 4 pumps preWO, and I have run 2 pumps after shower then 2 pumps later in the day preWO. I have not noticed a huge difference between getting all 4 pumps at once and spreading them out. biggest benefit to not running all 4 pumps at once for me is skin real estate since I'm using other TDs as well.

overall the XPG Carnitine does NOT disappoint. I'm really loving it.
 
Dustin07 said:
I have tried 4 pumps preWO, and I have run 2 pumps after shower then 2 pumps later in the day preWO. I have not noticed a huge difference between getting all 4 pumps at once and spreading them out. biggest benefit to not running all 4 pumps at once for me is skin real estate since I'm using other TDs as well.

overall the XPG Carnitine does NOT disappoint. I'm really loving it.
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I meant more 2 pumps pre workout and 2 later in the day. Just wondering if there is any negative to running at 4 instead of 2 daily?
 
Joshlm69 said:
I meant more 2 pumps pre workout and 2 later in the day. Just wondering if there is any negative to running at 4 instead of 2 daily?
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@Hyde discusses it a bit in my log. If I'm going to run 2, then I'm definitely running 4. but Hyde's recommendation was all 4 preWO. He liked having it all going within 30-50minutes preWO. I have done that, as well as spaced out a few hours and I did not notice a difference but I still get all 4pumps in preWO.

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I use 4 pumps on my sides or thighs when I have strenuous work or pre-workout, leaves my clavicles, inner arms, and tops of feet for other TDs.
 
Always go 4 pumps! L-Carn is something where there’s no sides taking more beyond probably driving up sweating, so you want to use enough to notice the boost in endurance & pumps. Especially if you have a faster paced workout. If you’re going to spend hours and rest 6 minutes between sets of 5 it would be a waste at 4 pumps.

You need very little for the androgen receptor scrubbing benefits. So if not in a fat loss phase then just a couple pumps on off-days is enough for that.

But for preWO boost, take lot!
 
I have noticed I get sweatier feet when I use that real estate but I am so harry I don't have lot of good real estate to use, lol.
 
Joshlm69 said:
I meant more 2 pumps pre workout and 2 later in the day. Just wondering if there is any negative to running at 4 instead of 2 daily?
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Not at all. There would be no negatives and would be positives.

Suggested use is 1 to 2 ml one to 2 times per day - so 4 ml per day is within the suggested use.

L-Carnitine Gel gives results that you can feel, but also is helpful for general health benefits that you can't feel right away and a lot of people that are using it for those benefits will use 4 ml per day.
 
Hyde said:
Always go 4 pumps! L-Carn is something where there’s no sides taking more beyond probably driving up sweating, so you want to use enough to notice the boost in endurance & pumps. Especially if you have a faster paced workout. If you’re going to spend hours and rest 6 minutes between sets of 5 it would be a waste at 4 pumps.

You need very little for the androgen receptor scrubbing benefits. So if not in a fat loss phase then just a couple pumps on off-days is enough for that.

But for preWO boost, take lot!
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Are you dosing on days off the gym?
 
Joshlm69 said:
Are you dosing on days off the gym?
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Yes, when I use l-carn I strive for minimum 4 days per week, but more often is better.

Cutting hard for the moment, so now pinning preWO and using the XPG on my off-days whenever I want a break from the injections. 7 extra shots a week is way too tedious for me. But for a minute I was just experimenting with the gel solo to figure out how I liked it around training.

The gel is faster to apply, doesn’t sting, and I can apply it in front of my son. So convenient! My bottle is almost gone
 
I’ve been using this for a month now(stacking with some other fat burners including Lean Edge). Been using 4 pumps a day since the start and enjoying all the effects. Vascularity and endurance are really pronounced. I want to use this all year around but was wondering if I could still use this at 4 pumps even let’s say if I was on a bulk or would that be kind of pointless?
 
mase1 said:
How does this potentially compare to l-carnitine injection?
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I’ll be honest. I used both at separate times Ofcourse.
The XPG gels I found worked best when I used 3-4 pumps daily, I used it two times, first time at 2 pumps a day and it didn’t do much for me , so I’d reccomend 3 pumps or 4 and like I said it worked nicely along with good diet and training and proper supplementation. I also think your size and weight has a lot to do with it , if you are a bigger thicker guy then I’d say 3-4 pumps , thinnner leaner lighter guys I’d assume 2 pumps or maybe 3 could get nice results …. I also used the injections if L Carnitine and too be honest I wasn’t impressed at all. I was using it along side Vit B Injections. I used one bottle saw little to no difference and refused to pay 180$ for the refill I was offered. The place I got it from is a legit pharmacy source supposedly FDA regulated if that actually means anything lol Either way my experience is - Injections 3x a week it was ok nothing much to be honest. When I ran 3-4 pumps of PLCar by XPG I had some nice results. So again, in my opinion, financially XPG tells are cheaper $ and my results were quite a bit better then injections. Every person reacts differently to supplements so who knows. Maybe if I tried injections again it would be worth it but I was so not impressed the first time I won’t even bother

this is all just my opinion and nothing else I’m saying what worked for me and that’s it
 
Ziyo said:
I’ve been using this for a month now(stacking with some other fat burners including Lean Edge). Been using 4 pumps a day since the start and enjoying all the effects. Vascularity and endurance are really pronounced. I want to use this all year around but was wondering if I could still use this at 4 pumps even let’s say if I was on a bulk or would that be kind of pointless?
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Yes it will still be beneficial in a bulk because it increases the efficiency of your androgens and drives more optimal nutrient utilization. It’s not as beneficial as a cut where you also can really take advantage of the enhanced fat transportation, but make no mistake it’s still all positives.

If you don’t mind buying and applying the product, you should definitely consider using it all the time. There is no benefit to ever stopping it or cycling off, or need to - L-carnitine exists naturally in the body. You’re just raising levels over baseline, similar to how taking beta-alanine to raise carnosine levels would be.
 
Ziyo said:
I’ve been using this for a month now(stacking with some other fat burners including Lean Edge). Been using 4 pumps a day since the start and enjoying all the effects. Vascularity and endurance are really pronounced. I want to use this all year around but was wondering if I could still use this at 4 pumps even let’s say if I was on a bulk or would that be kind of pointless?
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Yes, you could still use it on a bulk. You would still get the other benefits from it, including the overall health benefits and it wouldn’t have any negative consequences on your bulking.
 
Hyde said:
Yes it will still be beneficial in a bulk because it increases the efficiency of your androgens and drives more optimal nutrient utilization. It’s not as beneficial as a cut where you also can really take advantage of the enhanced fat transportation, but make no mistake it’s still all positives.

If you don’t mind buying and applying the product, you should definitely consider using it all the time. There is no benefit to ever stopping it or cycling off, or need to - L-carnitine exists naturally in the body. You’re just raising levels over baseline, similar to how taking beta-alanine to raise carnosine levels would be.
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That is what I am most interested in to be honest, the androgen receptor part. How noticeable is that or how much of an effect does it really have? I am very curious.
 
sns8778 said:
Yes, you could still use it on a bulk. You would still get the other benefits from it, including the overall health benefits and it wouldn’t have any negative consequences on your bulking.
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Thanks for that Steve,
Could I still expect some fat loss or leaner bulk?
 
Ziyo said:
That is what I am most interested in to be honest, the androgen receptor part. How noticeable is that or how much of an effect does it really have? I am very curious.
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You know, I think that’s impossible to meaningfully quantify. But I will say that having more optimized androgens over time can make a bigger difference when in the natural testosterone range, or thereabout, because it’s a larger relative effect.

I think especially if you end up training more intensely because of the enhanced work capacity, that has to have a positive correlation over time, provided you effectively recover from that stressor. The most work you can sustainably do will yield the greatest net progress. Most people are not up against their limit of recoverability and can afford to train harder than they do, but l-carn is unique in that it supports both enhanced training capacity AND recoverability.
 
Ziyo said:
Thanks for that Steve,
Could I still expect some fat loss or leaner bulk?
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I would expect it to help the gains be leaner during a bulk.
 
Hyde said:
You know, I think that’s impossible to meaningfully quantify. But I will say that having more optimized androgens over time can make a bigger difference when in the natural testosterone range, or thereabout, because it’s a larger relative effect.

I think especially if you end up training more intensely because of the enhanced work capacity, that has to have a positive correlation over time, provided you effectively recover from that stressor. The most work you can sustainably do will yield the greatest net progress. Most people are not up against their limit of recoverability and can afford to train harder than they do, but l-carn is unique in that it supports both enhanced training capacity AND recoverability.
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Thanks for that man 👍🏻
 
Ziyo said:
I’m also noticing my skin looks nicer..my face in particular looks more ‘glowing’ lol..
Is that related?
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Idk about skin health, but it is a significant antioxidant so it seems very possible to me. Glutathione is used for lightening skin therapy, so that isn’t a big mental leap for me.
 
Ziyo said:
I’m also noticing my skin looks nicer..my face in particular looks more ‘glowing’ lol..
Is that related?
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I think that's definitely possible, especially since it has L-Carnitine and PLCAR both in it.

I think L-Carnitine Gel has a lot of benefits that make it an excellent anti-aging, longevity, and overall health product.
 
sns8778 said:
I think that's definitely possible, especially since it has L-Carnitine and PLCAR both in it.

I think L-Carnitine Gel has a lot of benefits that make it an excellent anti-aging, longevity, and overall health product.
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I’m definitely gonna keep taking this year around
Loving the stuff
 
sns8778 said:
L-Carnitine Gel
100 mg. per ml/100 ml per bottle

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100 mg. per ml
100 ml per bottle
100 Servings

L-Carnitine Gel contains L-Carnitine and Propionyl L-Carnitine (PLCAR).

These ingredients are commonly used to support fat burning, promote energy production, and for cardiovascular and cognitive support.

They are also commonly used to help support improved athletic performance, enhanced stamina, delayed fatigue, and improved recovery.

Stacking:
L-Carnitine Gel can be used with Ab-Solved, Suppress-C, Alpha Gel, FL7 7-OXO Gel, or a wide variety of other Xtreme Performance Gels products.
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do you think these would stack good with forskolin?
 
johnny412 said:
do you think these would stack good with forskolin?
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I think that L-Carnitine Gel will stack great with pretty much anything, and Forskolin XT is good for increasing cAMP levels so the methods of action would go good together.

If you're wanting to target cAMP, you can also look at the feedback in the Alpha One thread. The feedback on Alpha One has been great and cAMP is one of the pathways through which it works.

Alpha One thread - https://anabolicminds.com/community...-recomposition-agent-incredible-pumps.338248/
 
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I’ve been taking L-carnitine gel for a while and love the stuff..but never really paid attention to carb timing as I’ve been seeing lately allot of people advise to have carbs with it. How long does it take for the gel to absorb and when should I ideally have some carbs?
 
Ziyo said:
I’ve been taking L-carnitine gel for a while and love the stuff..but never really paid attention to carb timing as I’ve been seeing lately allot of people advise to have carbs with it. How long does it take for the gel to absorb and when should I ideally have some carbs?
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I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying it.

I don't think that carb timing is very important with the gel imo.

L-Carnitine Gel is going to allow for enhanced absorption and better utilization in the system.
 
Ziyo said:
I’ve been taking L-carnitine gel for a while and love the stuff..but never really paid attention to carb timing as I’ve been seeing lately allot of people advise to have carbs with it. How long does it take for the gel to absorb and when should I ideally have some carbs?
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Applied preWO, it seemed to work just fine irrespective of how I used carbs. And if you wanted to work out with fat loss as a top priority, you certainly could use it without carbs and definitely notice the benefits to pump & endurance.

Carbs just combo well with it because they can also drive those same qualities, but plenty a bodybuilder will inject lots of carnitine preWO but have no intra carbs when prepping close to contest. Because the l-carn can further help mobilize fat for energy.
 
Thanks for your responses.
I would usually have some cream of rice or hot cross buns an hour before my workout and apply the gel maybe 15min prior to working out and It has been working great for pumps and endurance. Perhaps I was getting a bit confused due to seeing people talking about injectable L-carnitine and eating carbs straight after the administration. But if it doesn’t really matter I’ll stick to my protocol.
 
Ziyo said:
Thanks for your responses.
I would usually have some cream of rice or hot cross buns an hour before my workout and apply the gel maybe 15min prior to working out and It has been working great for pumps and endurance. Perhaps I was getting a bit confused due to seeing people talking about injectable L-carnitine and eating carbs straight after the administration. But if it doesn’t really matter I’ll stick to my protocol.
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So specifically it is insulin, which you can get from eating carbs, that further helps shuttle carnitine. But you can also get endogenous insulin release from eating protein, and amino acids & protein powders even do this particularly powerfully.

So if someone is eating a preWO meal, having intra aminos or a preWO shake, you’re definitely getting this benefit already.

Sodium also helps further.
 
I always thought transdermals absorbed really gradually compared to orals…am I off base??

I’ve been doing a lot of my dosing of this when I shower before bed 🤬

I’ll experiment with putting it on in the AM more instead. I do sometimes but definitely not as much as pre-bed.
 
warnerve said:
I always thought transdermals absorbed really gradually compared to orals…am I off base??

I’ve been doing a lot of my dosing of this when I shower before bed 🤬

I’ll experiment with putting it on in the AM more instead. I do sometimes but definitely not as much as pre-bed.
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No, you're not really off base.

When discussing this subject related to L-Carnitine, it just gets a little confusing because people use carnitine for different things and in different ways.

Comparison to L-Carnitine in capsule or powder:
Imo L-Carnitine Gel is better than L-Carnitine capsules or powder in every way.

Comparison to Liquid L-Carnitine:
Liquid L-Carnitine is extremely popular - but imo L-Carnitine Gel is superior to that in every way.

Comparison to Injectable L-Carnitine:
Injectable L-Carnitine is popular with the hardcore community - and L-Carnitine Gel is imo the closest that you will get to that without having to inject - which is a huge benefit for a lot of people. Especially people that don't want to inject, hide needles and things from their spouses, etc.

Some people use injectable L-Carnitine for fat loss, some people use it for performance enhancement, etc. - it's not that it doesn't help with both, but that's when the way you time it may become more relevant.

L-Carnitine Gel - Dosage Timing:
The main thing is to take it consistently for best results.
I personally prefer the idea of 2 ml twice per day; some will prefer 4 ml once per day.

If dosing it for performance, endurance, and pumps, I would suggest a dosage within an hour or so of working out - but this is still not a must if that would be terribly inconvenient for you.


I think its important to quantify this conversation by saying that I think that the main thing is just taking it consistently is going to be 90% to 95% of the main thing - the rest of the exact timing can be customized or optimized if a person wants, BUT if it makes the dosage inconvenient and they're more likely to miss dosages bc of it, I'd stick with simplicity.

I hope that helps.
 
sns8778 said:
No, you're not really off base.

When discussing this subject related to L-Carnitine, it just gets a little confusing because people use carnitine for different things and in different ways.

Comparison to L-Carnitine in capsule or powder:
Imo L-Carnitine Gel is better than L-Carnitine capsules or powder in every way.

Comparison to Liquid L-Carnitine:
Liquid L-Carnitine is extremely popular - but imo L-Carnitine Gel is superior to that in every way.

Comparison to Injectable L-Carnitine:
Injectable L-Carnitine is popular with the hardcore community - and L-Carnitine Gel is imo the closest that you will get to that without having to inject - which is a huge benefit for a lot of people. Especially people that don't want to inject, hide needles and things from their spouses, etc.

Some people use injectable L-Carnitine for fat loss, some people use it for performance enhancement, etc. - it's not that it doesn't help with both, but that's when the way you time it may become more relevant.

L-Carnitine Gel - Dosage Timing:
The main thing is to take it consistently for best results.
I personally prefer the idea of 2 ml twice per day; some will prefer 4 ml once per day.

If dosing it for performance, endurance, and pumps, I would suggest a dosage within an hour or so of working out - but this is still not a must if that would be terribly inconvenient for you.


I think its important to quantify this conversation by saying that I think that the main thing is just taking it consistently is going to be 90% to 95% of the main thing - the rest of the exact timing can be customized or optimized if a person wants, BUT if it makes the dosage inconvenient and they're more likely to miss dosages bc of it, I'd stick with simplicity.

I hope that helps.
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This is perfect, thanks Steve!
 
Hyde said:
So specifically it is insulin, which you can get from eating carbs, that further helps shuttle carnitine. But you can also get endogenous insulin release from eating protein, and amino acids & protein powders even do this particularly powerfully.

So if someone is eating a preWO meal, having intra aminos or a preWO shake, you’re definitely getting this benefit already.

Sodium also helps further.
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Makes sense.
Thank you 👍🏻
 
raji1980 said:
Anything wrong with applying it to upper chest, shoulders, traps?
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No, you can apply it to those areas if you would like to.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that @Dustin07 applies to a lot of different areas.

I normally do inside of arms and inside of thighs and sometimes traps myself - but that's because I have a long beard so if I applied to my chest it would get in my beard haha.
 
raji1980 said:
Anything wrong with applying it to upper chest, shoulders, traps?
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sns8778 said:
No, you can apply it to those areas if you would like to.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that @Dustin07 applies to a lot of different areas.
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I run the carnintine on shoulders, upper arms. I don't have the flexibility to reach much of the traps but these areas are enough for at least 2 pumps of material.

IF i'm adding anything else like xpg epiandro or xpg alpha gel, I'll add that to my feet and ankles after shower before I put socks on. always had great results with these areas. any extra liquid on my hands I rub into my obliques cause it's the last area on my body with enough skin to hair ratio to get the transdermal to the skin lol.

sns8778 said:
but that's because I have a long beard so if I applied to my chest it would get in my beard haha.
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damn dude, that's a boss beard. I found out this week if I let mine grow out I'm now getting a white/grey skunk stripe in the middle of the mustach under the nose lol.l
 
So ive been taking 1g of L-Carnitine Tartarate with my PWO for years now. I will never pin anything so the question then becomes, will switching to a topical give better results.

I understand the debate about oral bioavailability, but im wondering if anyone have been in the same boat and done the switch.

To be frank, i find topicals to be a hassle. But L-carnitine is one of those things id really like to get max effect out of.
 
I do feel like XPG’s topical is MUCH MUCH better than taking L-carn orally
Not on the same league
If you don’t wanna pin, switching from oral to XPG’s gel is a no brainer
 
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