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Kratom-hooked, Let’s discuss...

tyga tyga said:
Yeah my sleep was disrupted, from night sweats to RLS. Thing was, my entire body didn’t sweat but my low back and legs did. I would have maybe a total of 3hrs if decent sleep, the rest was tossing and turning and anxiety filled
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Yep. That RLS from it will make you want to die. Kratom withdrawal was the closest thing I’ve experienced to hell on earth.
 
Has anyone seen Chris Bell’s new documentary, “A Leaf of Faith”?

He’s the guy who did “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” which I thought was an awesome movie. He came out with a kratom documentary about two months ago. I haven’t seen it yet myself.
 
Barely slept last night. Hope this isn’t my dose reduction catching up with me
 
RickyBlobby said:
Barely slept last night. Hope this isn’t my dose reduction catching up with me
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I would doubt it - you'd feel the dose reduction problems pretty quickly.
 
bigbeaph said:
I would doubt it - you'd feel the dose reduction problems pretty quickly.
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It's just weird because I NEVER have problems sleeping. And every time I woke up I felt all restless n sh!t. Hopefully tonight goes better.
 
RickyBlobby said:
It's just weird because I NEVER have problems sleeping. And every time I woke up I felt all restless n sh!t. Hopefully tonight goes better.
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Who knows man - I'm not saying it's in your head by any stretch but with me I'd start questioning exactly like that. I'd get in my own head and probably make it worse. Just throwing it out there.

I quit tianeptine almost 2 weeks ago. Clean a week and got my sleep cycle back after 3 nights. Well I dosed a small bit after about a week. Was awesome - no feeling like I needed to keep using but I slept great. I started worrying that would mess up my sleep again and 4 days later my sleep is far worse than when I first came off. Its gotta be in my head. Anecdotal I know, just trying to say don't convince yourself you are going to have problems because it's perfectly possible you'll be alright!
 
RickyBlobby said:
It's just weird because I NEVER have problems sleeping. And every time I woke up I felt all restless n sh!t. Hopefully tonight goes better.
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I hate to say it but thats probably whats happening. Like i said before i didnt sleep more than a few minutes here and there for 2 weeks. That was cold turkey. But if i ran out and couldnt get more that night and my dose was smaller than usual i couldnt sleep. It actually got to the point at the end where my nformal dose wouldnt last me through the night. I would dose right before bed to sleep and still would wake up at 1 or 2 needing more to get back to sleep. Sucks
 
christ83189 said:
I hate to say it but thats probably whats happening. Like i said before i didnt sleep more than a few minutes here and there for 2 weeks. That was cold turkey. But if i ran out and couldnt get more that night and my dose was smaller than usual i couldnt sleep. It actually got to the point at the end where my nformal dose wouldnt last me through the night. I would dose right before bed to sleep and still would wake up at 1 or 2 needing more to get back to sleep. Sucks
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Yeah that blows man. Sounds like you were really bad off. Like tapering down was not even remotely an option- it would have just prolonged your suffering.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Yeah that blows man. Sounds like you were really bad off. Like tapering down was not even remotely an option- it would have just prolonged your suffering.
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That’s why I never taper on anything. I want the suffering to end as soon as possible, even though that makes the suffering far worse in the short term. I also don’t have the willpower to taper.
 
Scott4bama15 said:
Yep. That RLS from it will make you want to die. Kratom withdrawal was the closest thing I’ve experienced to hell on earth.
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Restless legs and arms is the worst part for me. I don't know why its so uncomfortable but it is
 
RickyBlobby said:
Yeah that blows man. Sounds like you were really bad off. Like tapering down was not even remotely an option- it would have just prolonged your suffering.
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Yeaah if i took anything less than my normal dose it wouldnt even get rid of withdrawals at all thats why tapering didnt work. I tried for quite a while but could only maintain dosage
 
Day 5 off Kratom after using 5-10 grams daily for a month . Libido and ED improving , no detox sides at all, I have two bottles of Kratom in my vitamin drawer and haven’t been tempted to use it . I may pop 5 grams here in a couple of weeks , caffeine was harder to quit IMO.
 
Dr.C said:
Day 5 off Kratom after using 5-10 grams daily for a month . Libido and ED improving , no detox sides at all, I have two bottles of Kratom in my vitamin drawer and haven’t been tempted to use it . I may pop 5 grams here in a couple of weeks , caffeine was harder to quit IMO.
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You were probably far more addicted to caffeine, that’s why. You used a moderate amount of kratom for a short period of time, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t been addicted to opiates in the past. So it should be easy. I’m glad to hear your body is reaching homeostasis again. You sound like the type of person who can get away with just using it here and there.
 
YoungThor said:
You were probably far more addicted to caffeine, that’s why. You used a moderate amount of kratom for a short period of time, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t been addicted to opiates in the past. So it should be easy. I’m glad to hear your body is reaching homeostasis again. You sound like the type of person who can get away with just using it here and there.
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Exactly what i was gonna say
 
RickyBlobby said:
Restless legs and arms is the worst part for me. I don't know why its so uncomfortable but it is
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Brotha. Get some gabapentin. I’m telling you. Ask a doc for restless leg or find an online source. They give 300count sample bottles at most Dpc offices
 
For those who’ve been addicted to kratom, here is a tip. If you’re ever going to slip up, for whatever reason, then purchase a very small amount only. I’ve been able to use it here and there by only buying one or two servings at a time. I purposely inconvenience myself. I also don’t care if a headshop rips me off because it disincentives me even more. I just bought a single shot of extract for 30 bucks (I’m actually in pain and could use it to relax and sleep tonight). Now I won’t make that purchase again for at least two weeks.
 
If you know where I can get some gaba online please PM. Matt you got PM BTW
 
Send again brotha, I’m here to help.
Proud of you thus far man..


This is the first two weeks I’ve not gone through a kilo. I have loads left, so tapering is going ok for me
 
If my mom lived in the state still, I’d get some for you. Docs prescribe it easily. Just google symptoms and flat out ask for it. Say a bro used it and it worked like a charm for anxiety too. You can also say you just quit drinking to add incentive to prescribe it. Say you don’t want benzos and they are more likely to give you those too
 
Matthersby said:
Send again brotha, I’m here to help.
Proud of you thus far man..

This is the first two weeks I’ve not gone through a kilo. I have loads left, so tapering is going ok for me
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Clear your pm’s
 
It's been interesting reading some of these comments, particularly the one where someone said that some people don't feel kratom their first few times using it. My ex wife and current girlfriend are examples of this, both said they couldnt feel any effect off 5 grams when I let them try some of mine.
 
I tried kratom several times when detoxing from pills with no luck. And then one day I was beginning detox again and I was desperate. Figured I'd drive 30 min to the next town over just to give it one more shot. By the time I got home I had gone from downright miserable to "hey kids, let's go to the park!" Thing is I'm sure I had tried quality stuff before too. Was really a lifesaver though.
 
Yeah the first few times I tried it I didn't feel anything. Then all of a sudden one day it hit me and the hook was set.
 
Btw fellas....you guys had me all excited about these opms gold caps. Huge waste of $$$. So disappointed! Sometimes I think my body is done responding to kratom altogether....makes it easy quitting again though I suppose
 
bigbeaph said:
Btw fellas....you guys had me all excited about these opms gold caps. Huge waste of $$$. So disappointed! Sometimes I think my body is done responding to kratom altogether....makes it easy quitting again though I suppose
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Hey i said it didnt do sh1t for me. Extracts didnt treat me any different than regular kratom
 
bigbeaph said:
Btw fellas....you guys had me all excited about these opms gold caps. Huge waste of $$$. So disappointed! Sometimes I think my body is done responding to kratom altogether....makes it easy quitting again though I suppose
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Only thing it did for me was keep me from getting sick from withdrawals even the stongest extracts didnt really get me high after the first little while i was on it
 
christ83189 said:
Hey i said it didnt do sh1t for me. Extracts didnt treat me any different than regular kratom
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You seemed to be the only one with that experience! My use has been similar to yours it sounds though too. Roughly 2 to 2.5 kg a month. Never really any difference at all between strains...wasnt noticeable anyway. I remember when I woke up every day my first dose was 42grams and that usually felt good. But other than that just helped with pain - which was a godsend.
 
bigbeaph said:
You seemed to be the only one with that experience! My use has been similar to yours it sounds though too. Roughly 2 to 2.5 kg a month. Never really any difference at all between strains...wasnt noticeable anyway. I remember when I woke up every day my first dose was 42grams and that usually felt good. But other than that just helped with pain - which was a godsend.
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42 GRAMS!!!! :o Now THATS got to be a record
 
Then one day my body just seemed to be done with it. I had to lower my doses to not get all wobbly until where I am now. 7-12 grams MAX but I don't even need it as far as addiction is concerned. I only need it for pain which it still does a good job dealing with. But if I go a day without taking it it's no big deal. Very lucky I suppose. That's after about 5.5 years of daily use.
 
Luckyyyyyyyyyyy
 
bigbeaph said:
Btw fellas....you guys had me all excited about these opms gold caps. Huge waste of $$$. So disappointed! Sometimes I think my body is done responding to kratom altogether....makes it easy quitting again though I suppose
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You’ve used super high doses of the stuff so you’d probably need a few extra caps, but at that point it’s not worth the cost.

Also, I’ve heard there’s a lot of inconsistency with opms. I’m pretty sure several different people sell kratom under that name. It’s like the opposite of a trademark. People steal the name and packaging all the time. That’s what I’ve heard at least.
 
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