Kleen - Project 50: Under Construction

Sleep apnea is a primary driver for elevated hematocrit, hemoglobin & RBC. This is a big reason why those go up on cycle or when you gain weight, thicker neck (muscle or fat) means worse breathing all night. Then the body conditions the blood so it can carry more oxygen in response to the hypoxic environment.


@Smont He’s implementing the Carditone now and checking out specifically if his Mk677 is affecting things too. He can’t get Telmisartan in a timely fashion unless he can get his doctor to prescribe it.

Valsartan is more potent between the two, anecdotally.
 
You need to get on a ARB, your kinda in the danger zone. Having your blood pressure that high it's not like immediate danger but high blood pressure is the silent killer for a lot of men having even slightly elevated BP over a period of years has a negative effect on your kidney function. When you see bodybuilders with their kidneys failing it's actually because of years of moderate to high blood pressure.

A little 40-80mg telmasartan everyday will bring your blood pressure down make you drop some water weight and help you lean out. It's got a bunch of other benefits too but it's definitely worth looking into for anyone whose blood pressure gets up in the 140 is over 90 area. Once mine even approaches 140 I start telmasartan or valsartan. Whatever I have on hand. I don't know why but sometimes my source has one and sometimes he has the other. I guess it just depends on whatever old man he robbed the week before lol
I am going to call the doctor today and see if they will do a telehealth visit or whatever to get on one. Last night was another debilitating headache, and I had enough of those already... Good looking out on the kidneys though, wasn't really thinking too much about that with it being temporary, or assumed so.
Something you can do right now is start taking a baby aspirin and increase your water intake. Those will help to a very small degree
I haven't started Baby Aspirin, but have definitely increased water intake, and cut down caffeine consumption quite a bit.

UGH... As hinted above, the saga continues. I started feeling the pressure build up behind my eye toward the end of the day at work and then on the way home it really kicked in throughout my whole head. When I got home my BP was 157/94, and heart rate was 93. Pretty ridiculous for me. Since my head was pounding, I waited for dinner to be done and then ate, took my support supps and went to the room and laid down. This was the point I decided I was going to call the doctor today to see if I could get a script for telmisartan.

I also decided that I was going to cut calories to force some fat off this body of mine. I think with my current LBM my maintenance must be around 2500 because I have just gradually been putting a little more weight on and not really getting any leaner any more. Even before the addition of gear my weight was not budging in the 2500-2600 territory. Just hovered at 208-210. As of this morning I am up to 216.2 and I am sure adding weight there is not helping my BP either. So going to be dropping my overall average intake to around 2000-2200 and drop some weight. See if that helps out with the BP as well.

As of last night I stopped the MK temporarily, so the only things left in the recovery cycle at this point are the 280 test, the BPC, and the Cardarine. I am going to continue to monitor things and see if I can get my doctor to hook me up with some Telmisartan. If I can then I will reintroduce the other stuff and continue to monitor things.

Calories last night were a little lower then my new target but I was full, and just wanted to go lay down and fall asleep so I couldn't feel my headache. This morning when I tested I was 144/90 and pulse was at 70.

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Going to go get a lift in today since I missed it yesterday.
 
Sleep apnea is a primary driver for elevated hematocrit, hemoglobin & RBC. This is a big reason why those go up on cycle or when you gain weight, thicker neck (muscle or fat) means worse breathing all night. Then the body conditions the blood so it can carry more oxygen in response to the hypoxic environment.


@Smont He’s implementing the Carditone now and checking out specifically if his Mk677 is affecting things too. He can’t get Telmisartan in a timely fashion unless he can get his doctor to prescribe it.

Valsartan is more potent between the two, anecdotally.
@Hyde I was not aware that sleep apnea was a driver for elevated hematocrit. That makes sense as to why it has not been high the last few times it was checked. Jo said I have not been snoring, or stopping breathing anywhere near as much since I have lost a good bit of muscle over the last few years. It was only 47 before I donated so should be around 44 now.

Curious would my doctor likely want to take blood now before prescribing to me. I don't want to be trying to explain levels in the 2000+ range if I don't have too.

I verified that the GW was not causing any of the issues, so now seeing how things go in the absence of the MK.

How long does the Carditone normally take to do it's thing by the way?
 
Got in a nice little session today.

WU = 10 minutes on stairmill - slow tempo, using it like a push sled

Circuit x 4 work sets
Leg Press Machine - 340x15
Right Arm DB Flat Bench 45x15
Right Arm Chest supported Row 80x15

Left Arm Rehab Work - Completed


By the way I might be jumping the gun here but I have a lot less pressure in my head this afternoon. Not sure if BP is dropping a little or not but it feels like it might be. Curious if that will stick around, if so then it might be the MK as most seemed to have suspected. Either way I am waiting to hear back from my Dr. regarding getting a script and if there is any way I can do a virtual appt to get it if need be. I would prefer to be able to add everything back in if possible.

I was also sent a link to an online Dr by one cool azz mofo up in here. I may use that but the expense is pretty high since not on my insurance so trying to see if I can't get my doc to help me out. I have been with her for 20 years so hopefully she will just take care of me.

If I am still feeling good tonight I think I may go out and pull the tire sled around a little too. Make up a little for missing the workout yesterday.
 
Got in a nice little session today.

WU = 10 minutes on stairmill - slow tempo, using it like a push sled

Circuit x 4 work sets
Leg Press Machine - 340x15
Right Arm DB Flat Bench 45x15
Right Arm Chest supported Row 80x15

Left Arm Rehab Work - Completed


By the way I might be jumping the gun here but I have a lot less pressure in my head this afternoon. Not sure if BP is dropping a little or not but it feels like it might be. Curious if that will stick around, if so then it might be the MK as most seemed to have suspected. Either way I am waiting to hear back from my Dr. regarding getting a script and if there is any way I can do a virtual appt to get it if need be. I would prefer to be able to add everything back in if possible.

I was also sent a link to an online Dr by one cool azz mofo up in here. I may use that but the expense is pretty high since not on my insurance so trying to see if I can't get my doc to help me out. I have been with her for 20 years so hopefully she will just take care of me.

If I am still feeling good tonight I think I may go out and pull the tire sled around a little too. Make up a little for missing the workout yesterday.
That's good news man, eff a headache!!!
 
That’s good news, you’re one step closer to having it figured out.
 
That's good news man, eff a headache!!!
I know right!
That’s good news, you’re one step closer to having it figured out.
Yessir!

It was so nice going home last night without a headache for the first time in a week. My plan to do some tire pulling was foiled by some Honey-Do's, but I was so happy not to have a headache I wasn't even upset.

Unfortunately my BP was high this morning 153/93, and I have a headache creeping in.

Nutrition was right at 2000 calories yesterday, could have used some more fiber but I ain't mad at the macros.

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Planning to do some cardio at lunch if I can shake this headache, if not I will probably take a long walk. Right now I just want to close my eyes and massage my head.

Doc agreed on the virtual appt and is supposed to reach out to me if they can squeeze me in today, if not should be tomorrow.
 
Good news, they got me squeezed in for tomorrow afternoon with my doctor, so I expect I will have some BP meds available to me by tomorrow evening.
 
I know right!

Yessir!

It was so nice going home last night without a headache for the first time in a week. My plan to do some tire pulling was foiled by some Honey-Do's, but I was so happy not to have a headache I wasn't even upset.

Unfortunately my BP was high this morning 153/93, and I have a headache creeping in.

Nutrition was right at 2000 calories yesterday, could have used some more fiber but I ain't mad at the macros.

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Planning to do some cardio at lunch if I can shake this headache, if not I will probably take a long walk. Right now I just want to close my eyes and massage my head.

Doc agreed on the virtual appt and is supposed to reach out to me if they can squeeze me in today, if not should be tomorrow.
Kleen I think I'm reading those macros correctly, you forget to log something or just didn't eat yesterday?

I've been following the BP issues and headaches, is this the first bout with high BP for you?

Hopefully its a quick fix and not a permanent medication
 
Kleen I think I'm reading those macros correctly, you forget to log something or just didn't eat yesterday?

I've been following the BP issues and headaches, is this the first bout with high BP for you?

Hopefully its a quick fix and not a permanent medication
@BOSSMAN Oh snap, I deleted the wrong attachment earlier. GREAT CATCH!!!! I missed more than one meal there. That was only my first meal of the day today. This is the correct nutrition info here. I could have used a little bit more protein for the day, but I am sure that is still more than a gram of protein per lb of LBM right now.


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Hopefully this 500 calorie drop from what appeared to be my maintenance or just slightly over it will get the scale going in the right direction. Should equal out to about a lb a week, maybe a little more with my cardio, but I am still holding on to some of the water, and glycogen stores from the MK so we shall see how much I drop initially. As well as what happens if I get to add the TBol and MK back in once I am on BP meds. I know I can grow on 2000 a day if on PEDs so we shall see. I intend to take this down below 200lbs to see how things look. I am planning to get a gyno surgery next year I want to be lean enough to see my top 4 abs so we can make sure I get an aesthetic result. Not sure how far below 200 that will take me but the number isn't the goal, the desired level of leanness is.

About to go do some cardio and burn some of this fat off!
 
Oh yeah on the BP, it is my first time. I have gone up to like 145/90 previously on a cycle but that was just a couple times, and basic supports brought it back down to an acceptable level for me. My usual on cycle has been 135/85ish, and not on cycle in the 115-128/75-82 range.
 
Alright, I got in 35 minutes incline walking + cooldown. Judging by the effort and what I am used to at the other gym I program my weight into I would put it around 400 calories.

Also got my appointment tomorrow at noon so hoping she will call something in and I will be able to grab it on my way home tomorrow.
 
10/14/22 - 211.7 down from 216.2 on Monday.

Looking much better, stomach is less bloated and slimmer. Some of it is obviously extra water coming off, and I am pretty sure a little fat in there too.

Nutrition was on point yesterday and today is basically the same breakfast and lunch.

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I have my appt at noon today and will update later on if they give me a script.
 
Hope she gives you a script for the Telmisartan. I think it’s a must have for us older guys, that still like to dabble in anabolics. And truly is the one of the better and safer BP medications with extra benefits. Sorry that site wasn’t on your insurance…. It’s definitely more convenient getting scripts over the phone when you can.
All the other changes should start helping pretty quickly as well, like Smont said it is the silent killer. Slips up on you, sometimes before you even notice.
 
Hope she gives you a script for the Telmisartan. I think it’s a must have for us older guys, that still like to dabble in anabolics. And truly is the one of the better and safer BP medications with extra benefits. Sorry that site wasn’t on your insurance…. It’s definitely more convenient getting scripts over the phone when you can.
All the other changes should start helping pretty quickly as well, like Smont said it is the silent killer. Slips up on you, sometimes before you even notice.
Great news, Doc hooked me up, I mentioned Telmisartan and she said oh, good, I normally jump straight to that classification of drug when dealing with hypertension. She is sending me for some bloodwork to check on my kidney function since I have that scarring from getting Strep in my kidney when I was young. I was a little concerned when she mentioned that with my current dose of Test but she said we didn't need to do any of the hormones right now, we could do that when I come back in for my physical so I don't have to worry about explaining 2000+ levels of test. Excited to get on this and feel better, no more pressure in the head or behind the eyes. That stuff is excruciating. Plus it will be nice to start adding some of this back in once my pressure has come down a little.

How fast does it work and how much should I expect it to drop? Not sure what dose she will give but I imagine with my readings it may be 80mg a day from some of the things I was looking at.

Also good news is that I have reached my max out of pocket for the year so I won't have to pay for any of this until next year.
 
It should drop your pressure on day one, and unless it’s crazy high it should get you back in that normal range. I bet that will take care of those headaches, as well as some other things you may not have connected. It’s crazy how many things high blood pressure can affect.
 
It should drop your pressure on day one, and unless it’s crazy high it should get you back in that normal range. I bet that will take care of those headaches, as well as some other things you may not have connected. It’s crazy how many things high blood pressure can affect.
Awesome, question for you and @Hyde and anyone else in the know. How long would you all take the telmisartan before starting to reintroduce other compounds back into the mix? I plan to wait on the MK until I have at least done my labs but may even hold out on the TBol as well just in case she does liver values too. I don't want that showing elevated.

Only issue is I probably won't be able to get my labs until the week after next due to being assigned on a high priority project managing the lenovo techs coming out for a system board recall next week. We have to complete 90 system board swap outs next week on machines already in production, then update all the drivers for the new system boards. So it is going to be a fun and busy week trying to coordinate with 90 attorneys who all consider their time far more valuable than mine.
 
I would wait until after labs. You want those to look good. Also, if this gets your blood pressure under control, that doesn’t mean it will be enough when you add in an oral AND Mk677. You may end up right back where you are now, miserable. You may need to pick one only, or neither. Right now, just the 280 test and Adderall has you very high up there.

Carditone and Telmisartan both start working day one and will have full effect in just several days of consistent use.

Mk677 routinely causes water retention and bloating in the gut especially. It’s mainly a bulking and healing drug.

I was talking with my wife’s current coach today; he had his labrum repaired and bicep moved and he said he never had to wear a sling and was using his arm in 2 weeks. He said it was an incredibly fast recovery. It’s been so long, I wouldn’t compromise your health for the marginal benefits those oral compounds may add at this point.
 
I would wait until after labs. You want those to look good. Also, if this gets your blood pressure under control, that doesn’t mean it will be enough when you add in an oral AND Mk677. You may end up right back where you are now, miserable. You may need to pick one only, or neither. Right now, just the 280 test and Adderall has you very high up there.

Carditone and Telmisartan both start working day one and will have full effect in just several days of consistent use.

Mk677 routinely causes water retention and bloating in the gut especially. It’s mainly a bulking and healing drug.

I was talking with my wife’s current coach today; he had his labrum repaired and bicep moved and he said he never had to wear a sling and was using his arm in 2 weeks. He said it was an incredibly fast recovery. It’s been so long, I wouldn’t compromise your health for the marginal benefits those oral compounds may add at this point.
That is where I was starting to go with this. Was thinking get leaner, and seeing where things were would be the way to go then if I want to bump the tbol in once I am working the arm out I can enjoy the benefit of the extra anabolism to catch the shoulder and arm back up.

Unfortunately she sent the script to my mail service so it won't be here until midweek next week. My BP has come down a little lower the further I get away from the tbol and mk. This morning was 138/90 which although not great a definite improvement over the last 2 days. Hoping once I start the other things will be back in normal range.

As far as the labrum and biceps surgery I am surprised he was never in a sling but I wonder if he had a less severe tear. This one is my 3rd labrum surgery, and the first one was unreal with how long it took for the shoulder to recover. He had to do a lot of work in there. It was a bad SLAP 2 tear. I wasn't able to touch weights until 3-4 months out and they hurt when I did. The second one was also a labrum tear but nowhere near as bad. I spent a week in a sling but only when in public, and was training light weights within a month. This one was also a pretty bad SLAP 2 and is still a mofo when I go beyond ROM the shoulder bites me, and it takes a minute for the pain to taper off . Just still really sensitive at end range where the cartilage isn't completely healed or at least not to where it isn't inflamed still. I am sure the turning the corner portion of recovery will be during this next month. My PT told me we are able to step things up next week and for me to be ready. Assuming all goes well I will be lifting weights with it in 4 more weeks. Maybe a week or so sooner if the sensitivity level drops a little more.

Now the biceps, I really feel I could have been using it a lot more a lot earlier. However I have been using it a lot more than he prescribed in general use. I have recently forgotten about it a couple times and picked up my gym bag or whatever and then been like Oh not supposed to be doing that. Yet only because I remembered not because it hurt. However over the last week I just decided there is not anything magical happening over the next week that hasn't been going on the last 7 and that I am much more than likely safe to use it under most normal uses. I mean if a bone break is ready in 7-8 weeks then the bone healing around the insertion point is going to be completed by now as well.

I wonder, did he get any metal anchors or anything in there back then? I do know my doctor made a big deal out of letting me know he did not use any metal anchors so curious if their are 2 different methods one requiring longer recovery but no metal? That or my doc is just being overcautious.

10/15/22 - Commercial gym workout - Legs and right side upper body
Stair Mill - 6 minutes
- pushing like a sled taking 2 steps at a time and getting full extension of the hips and calves. This really seems to help me work on what part of the foot I am putting the force through to engage my outer ankle and glutes more.

Leg Press 4p x20, 8p x15, 6p x 12, 14p x10, 16p x10, 18p x10 - This was my first time up at 9 plates per side on leg press in a while. It felt good to get back there. I was able to stabilize myself a bit with my left hand this time and felt safe enough to go up there. Was not too hard I could have done another set of 10 @10 plates per side if I could really lock myself down in the seat with my left safely.

Abductors 115x15, 145x15, 170x15, 195x15, 205x15
Adductors 145x20, 170x20, 195x15, 205x15, 225x15

HS Reverse Grip High Row - 45x15, 90x8, 70x12, 70x12, 70x12
HS Dips - 90x12, 12, 12, 12, 12

HS Flat Chest Press - 45x15, 15, 15, 15



Macro tracking is going well and keeping me quite consistent here are my last 2 days.

10/14/22
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Good Morning AM!

10/16/22 - 210.7 down another .9lbs since Friday and almost 6lbs since I stopped the MK

Today is normally a planned rest day but I got one of those earlier this week. So I will be heading into the gym after my coffee to do some cardio and get in some ab work.

Happy with the current downward trend on weight. I know some of this is just water coming off from being off the MK but I am happy about it. If I continue to drop quickly after 207-208 I will look at bumping calories by a little bit, but right now I am happy with what is going on there.
 
Well guys this weekend was kind of a recovery weekend. Saturday I went to a party at a friends and tripped over an area rug the corner rolled up on and fell toward a door jam. I caught myself with my left hand and the shoulder was sore all weekend so I did not go to the gym. Just rested and took some ibuprofen. It is feeling better now but Sunday when I intended to go lift it was still really sore so I opted to just limit all movement, rest and recover. I am feeling a good bit better today as far as that goes.

Saturday I am sure that calories were a little high but since I was at a party with my buddy who makes some of the best ribs in town I knew I was going to indulge. I fasted earlier in the day to control caloric intake a bit but chose to enjoy the ribs to the fullest. :)

Now for the not so great news. I got my BP cuff in and started testing. My reading Saturday evening was perfect at 121/78 so I went ahead and took all of my supps for the evening. That being 25mg TBol, and 12.5mg MK, and my BPC shot. When I got up in the morning Sunday I took my BPC, and my cardarine then tested BP about 20 minutes later. I have never seen my BP so high, almost up 30 points on each. I took a few to make sure I had not done something wrong and my highest was like 151/105, which to me was pretty alarming. My pulse was also racing at 95BPM which is pretty ridiculous resting heartrate. So I am wondering if the cardarine had anything to do with that. Either way I started my Carditone immediately. Last night I decided to drop the oral, but left the MK in the mix to see if there was any change this morning. I also did not take the Cardarine since it seemed to spike both my BP and my RHR. This morning BP was down to about 143/101 which is still way up there for me. My RHR was 76 so at least my heart rate had returned to normal levels but I still do not like the BP where it is at all. Going to keep up the Carditone and hopefully I will see an improvement. I don't really have any experience in this area though. I have never seen anything over mid 140's and mid 90's previously and that was during a much harsher cycle. I have never seen the triple digits on the diastolic and it has be a bit concerned. Maybe that isn't even that bad in the big picture but I am not really comfortable with it at all.

I have already temporarily dropped the TBol to see if that helps. I don't see a big drop there and already kind of think the bigger culprit might be the MK. So thinking I may take a day or two off of the MK to see if things drop at all. Also since first time using carditone, I do not know what it normally can do as far as bringing BP down. Can it knock 20 pts off on it's own? Should I consider calling off the the whole recovery cycle and just letting the shoulder heal at it's own pace? Should I try to find some telmisartan to keep things under control or is it likely the carditone may get it done?

What is a bit unnerving and makes me happy that @Hyde also mentioned the BP stuff when I was thinking about it is that even at the 151/105 I did not have a hypertension headache so I wonder what my BP was pushing at the point where I was having headaches. I haven't touched the adderall since Friday and am trying to adjust things. This morning I did not take the GW because I didn't want the boost in BP and heartrate until I have more of a plan of action here. That and I need to try taking my BP just a bit after my BPC shot and make sure it wasn't some sort of adrenal reaction to the shot. I think it was the GW but only one way to know.

I would appreciate any feedback from the guys who run cycles regularly and have had to combat higher BP. I would prefer to be able to complete the recovery cycle but not if I am really putting my health at risk. Also I am probably going to see if I can schedule a donation today. That should go a long way to dropping BP if it is partially HCT related. My last bloodwork showed me at 48 so it wouldn't be a leap to think it has probably climbed into the 50's with the recent increase in androgens.

On a different note, what a difference 4 years can make on your ability to handle a cycle... I am sure some of it is simply me not being in as good of shape but I have been fatter than this on cycle before and not gone this high. So might just be my new normal and any cycling may require prescription strength BP support from here on out.

Anyway, if anyone has any feedback from experience with fighting BP issues on cycle let me know. Also let me know if this isn't quite as bad as it seems to me at these numbers since this is a new area for me and honestly BP has never had to be much of a concern to me previously as it never really got much outside of pre-hypertensive before. Also trying to decide if I should take my Test shot tomorrow or start letting levels drop back down to my trt doses.
As someone who was orescribed dexamphetamine for 12 years, I confirm it will jack up your blood pressure.
Also, NSAIDs increase my blood pressure temporarily by about 20 points.
 
Where do you normally end up with your calories after you’re at your desired weight?
 
As someone who was orescribed dexamphetamine for 12 years, I confirm it will jack up your blood pressure.
Also, NSAIDs increase my blood pressure temporarily by about 20 points.
Interesting on the NSAIDS, I had not heard that.
Where do you normally end up with your calories after you’re at your desired weight?
Honestly I don't have a reference point any longer. The last time I was dieting and got pretty lean I had about 15lbs more LBM so not sure. Plus I was fasting heavily EOD, burn days getting in 1400-1800 calories and then getting in about 2400-2800 cals on build days.

Have been working 12 hour days this week on this project, took a long walk Monday evening and went to warm up for training yesterday and was just dead to the world after my warm up really feeling exhausted so I went to eat and lay down.

Nutrition the last couple days has been pretty good, but have been getting free lunch each day so haven't been in total control of those calories / macros.

My best estimate going off of internet nutrition tables are listed below.

Monday
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Today was a little higher day, had some of my favorite pizza for lunch, and brought the rest home for leftovers for the family since it is left over night.

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Gym was great tonight, I added in some very light dumbbell curls and triceps extension for my right hand today as well. Just a 5 pound on biceps and did enough to have some volume without ever challenging anything other than moving under a little weight. Then triceps ext were only 15lbs just reintroducing the muscle to moving under a small load.

Stair Mill - 10 minutes

Leg Press x 6 sets

Upper Right side only

HS Shoulder Press 4 sets
HS Supported Row 4 sets

HS Horizontal Chest Press 4 sets
DB Curls 5 x 7 sets

Triceps Extension 15 x didn't count x 5 sets
 
Interesting on the NSAIDS, I had not heard that.
Honestly I don't have a reference point any longer. The last time I was dieting and got pretty lean I had about 15lbs more LBM so not sure. Plus I was fasting heavily EOD, burn days getting in 1400-1800 calories and then getting in about 2400-2800 cals on build days.

Have been working 12 hour days this week on this project, took a long walk Monday evening and went to warm up for training yesterday and was just dead to the world after my warm up really feeling exhausted so I went to eat and lay down.

Nutrition the last couple days has been pretty good, but have been getting free lunch each day so haven't been in total control of those calories / macros.

My best estimate going off of internet nutrition tables are listed below.

Monday
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Today was a little higher day, had some of my favorite pizza for lunch, and brought the rest home for leftovers for the family since it is left over night.

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Gym was great tonight, I added in some very light dumbbell curls and triceps extension for my right hand today as well. Just a 5 pound on biceps and did enough to have some volume without ever challenging anything other than moving under a little weight. Then triceps ext were only 15lbs just reintroducing the muscle to moving under a small load.

Stair Mill - 10 minutes

Leg Press x 6 sets

Upper Right side only

HS Shoulder Press 4 sets
HS Supported Row 4 sets

HS Horizontal Chest Press 4 sets
DB Curls 5 x 7 sets

Triceps Extension 15 x didn't count x 5 sets
Yeah those 12 hour days can make things pretty rough when trying to train…..glad I don’t have to deal with many of those anymore.
 
Always putting in the work!
 
Yeah those 12 hour days can make things pretty rough when trying to train…..glad I don’t have to deal with many of those anymore.
Same here, big projects only at this point. Nothing like when I used to work shutdowns in the plant reactors. Not only 7/12s but full Hazmat suits and all. That was horrible!
Always putting in the work!
Thanks Rocket! Trying to push that consistency.
He’s back in the saddle boys!
AMEN!

It was so nice to get a little blood into that arm and feel the contractions. I am feeling good today too. No worse for the wear and I got my internal rotation back this morning to where I can almost touch my scapula behind my back while stretching. Still not comfortable but pulling it up with a towel I can get it there. My wife was really worried last night when I told her I did curls and I am not cleared to lift weights yet. So she was happy to hear this morning that all was well and I am not sore at all.

Tonight is going to be cardio and i believe I am going to use the elliptical for the first time since surgery. That should really get some blood into all the area in a great way.
 
Same here, big projects only at this point. Nothing like when I used to work shutdowns in the plant reactors. Not only 7/12s but full Hazmat suits and all. That was horrible!
Thanks Rocket! Trying to push that consistency.
AMEN!

It was so nice to get a little blood into that arm and feel the contractions. I am feeling good today too. No worse for the wear and I got my internal rotation back this morning to where I can almost touch my scapula behind my back while stretching. Still not comfortable but pulling it up with a towel I can get it there. My wife was really worried last night when I told her I did curls and I am not cleared to lift weights yet. So she was happy to hear this morning that all was well and I am not sore at all.

Tonight is going to be cardio and i believe I am going to use the elliptical for the first time since surgery. That should really get some blood into all the area in a great way.
I was speed reading and read “Not only 7/12s but full Hazmat suits” as Hazmat sluts lol. Now I can only see hot chicks with tight rubber suits and gas masks lol
 
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I was speed reading and read “Not only 7/12s but full Hazmat suits” as Hazmat sluts lol. Now I can only see hot chicks with tight rubber suits and gas masks lol

Pervert !!!

You know if Hairy Grandpa were still around he would have a picture to post of that !!
 
Hey, what ever you are into..............
 
There out there…..apparently it’s a thing.😂

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Don't let the vinyl fool you, she isn't a dominatrix, she is a sub, and her bull farts into her air tube until she says her safe word!
 
So yesterday was both a great day and a not so great day. Personal choices.

We worked a little longer last night to complete the project so we don't have to do it today and my boss can work from home. To reward us he got us Goode Co Brisket last night, and a Pecan Pie. Goode Co is well known around Houston for excellent BBQ, and their Pecan Pie is considered some of the best around these parts. So I opted to indulge and enjoy. This is my first HIGH calorie day in a while and I didn't even break 3000 calories. However macros could have been much better. That being said I have ZERO regrets about my decision to enjoy the reward.

Getting home even later, I was pooped and basically just went to bed to lay down and watch a little TV with the wife once I got home. I think I was asleep by 9:00 maybe a little before that. Probably a good thing I didn't do the elliptical last night because my shoulder is sore from PT yesterday, and that might have overdone it.

So here is the "damage" from yesterday, I knew I was way over on calories or would have supplemented a little protein at the end. I figured no need with as many carbs I am sure it was an anabolic day.

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Getting 100% back on the wagon now that I am more in control of my food. Pretty happy with how well I kept calories in check this week though. Macros will be better going forward.
 
She’s probably ugly as hell under that mask. COVID taught us all, never trust the eyes as an indicator of the face
 
She’s probably ugly as hell under that mask. COVID taught us all, never trust the eyes as an indicator of the face
Right, COVID masks did for ugly women what beards did for ugly men!!!
 
So yesterday was both a great day and a not so great day. Personal choices.

We worked a little longer last night to complete the project so we don't have to do it today and my boss can work from home. To reward us he got us Goode Co Brisket last night, and a Pecan Pie. Goode Co is well known around Houston for excellent BBQ, and their Pecan Pie is considered some of the best around these parts. So I opted to indulge and enjoy. This is my first HIGH calorie day in a while and I didn't even break 3000 calories. However macros could have been much better. That being said I have ZERO regrets about my decision to enjoy the reward.

Getting home even later, I was pooped and basically just went to bed to lay down and watch a little TV with the wife once I got home. I think I was asleep by 9:00 maybe a little before that. Probably a good thing I didn't do the elliptical last night because my shoulder is sore from PT yesterday, and that might have overdone it.

So here is the "damage" from yesterday, I knew I was way over on calories or would have supplemented a little protein at the end. I figured no need with as many carbs I am sure it was an anabolic day.

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Getting 100% back on the wagon now that I am more in control of my food. Pretty happy with how well I kept calories in check this week though. Macros will be better going forward.
You have to live life now an again - we arent training to win any contests so why would we pass up some to the great pleasures in life now an again!
 
I’m with you on this one man. I didn’t think that would do it for me, but it turns out I’m a little freaky.
Funny thing is that picture was an advertisement selling that outfit as a kit. Ha, it even has a tube for her pony tail to pull through.
Hey you could always get it for your girl and tell her you want to try something new.😜
 
Right, COVID masks did for ugly women what beards did for ugly men!!!
Well not really as beards are natural. I hate the beard comparison to masks and make-up. NO - these are totally different.

Now comparing beards to well groomed and styled for the face hair on a women is a fair comparison.
 
You calling me ugly ?????????
LMAO Nope! I didn't say all men with beards were ugly, just the beard coming back in style made it easy for ugly men to hide their flaws... IF they had a good beard.
Well not really as beards are natural. I hate the beard comparison to masks and make-up. NO - these are totally different.

Now comparing beards to well groomed and styled for the face hair on a women is a fair comparison.
Not totally different at all in the context of the comparison. I get what you are saying, women are fake in how they present themselves with make up, push up bras, fake hair, nails and cosmetic surgery. However, natural or not doesn't have any bearing to the comparison I made about the masks. Which is the end effect, covering some of the flaws on faces of unattractive people. Before beards got popular again and most women didn't like them ugly men had no reprieve. Now an ugly man with a good beard can get some play. :)

By the way welcome to the log glad you're here!

10/22/22
Cardio 45 minutes =448 calories


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10/23/22

Stairmill 5 minutes

Icaarian Super Squat - Face Out 2p x15, 4p x15, 6p x10, 8p x10, 8p x5, Face In 8p x 8 stopped because it was pressing in on my incision causing a lot of discomfort.

Roman Chair Hyper Extensions into GHR Type movement - 10, 10, 10, 7
Standing Calf Press 205x15 x 4 sets

Right side only
Lat Pull down 80x10-15 x 4 sets
Chest Press 80x10-15 x 4 sets

Left Arm Only
DB Curls 5x a bunch x 5 sets
Triceps Ext 30x several x 5 sets


Had a great nutrition day today.

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Nutrition on point !!
 
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