KLEEN Preps w/ HGHpro & SWOLE Stack - An Epic Tale of Anabolic Innovation…
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MrKleen73
Legend
Cardio today.
Well guys, I do beleive I will be doing a skip load this coming Monday. I will take some before pics of me monday before I start the load, then after I am completely spilled over and then maybe another one on the second day after the flushing starts and then when I feel I have peaked. Right now even though my bodyfat is low I still have some fat on my abs and under my pec but my legs, arms shoulders are all very lean so all you may notice is added volume and increased vascularity in the extremeties. My stomoach doesn't truly shape up intil close to 7% percent for some reason, I still have an lb or so before they pop. I can only assume my chest and legs are bigger as my chest and thigh caliper measurements are lower this year than last year at this bodyfat. As that may be a positive it means I am carrying more on my stomach this year. I have not been taking any anticortisol supps this prep and that may be part of the difference in stomach fat. I will be adding in ReCreate in 2 weeks when DCP is gone so that may help with that. Seemed I had a little more even distribution of fat last year and I ran that the whole time it was the first time I wasn't so apple shaped..... I think it may be part of what is different...
I did a mini carb up yesterday / last night. I took in a total of about 1000 grams of carbs in yesterday with 500 of them being the last 5 hours of the day and only having about 20 grams of fat total during the last 5 hours. Cookie Crisps , Fat Free Fig Newtons, Red Hots, Starkist Jelly Beans and Sherbert were the main culprits. Yeah mostly junk but I had some stuff go on at the end of the day and didn't have time for cooking pancakes or anything else for that matter so I rattled off a few low fat sugary things to the wife to grab at the store. That and the SkipLoading is all about carb dense foods with no fat. You can't get much more carb dense and or fat free than Jelly beans and Red Hots. I also chose the fat free figs to make sure everthing came out easily on the back end. Nice info huh? Well it worked too... I also did not drink much water past 6 pm to keep bloat down a bit and still am holing a little water but not much.
Now for the results, I weighed in yesterday at 196 no shoes, after having a meal and some water, today 198 no shoes no food or drink other than about 3 oz water to slam an OEP and 2 DCP pre cardio. Now I can bet I was easily 194-195 fasted yesterday, which leaves me at a HALF of a SkipLoad put on between 2-3 lbs on my frame. I am not seeing a lot more water and expect tomorrow will be even better on that regard. I will keep drinking and may even take a hot bath tonight. There really isn't too much reason limit water intake with the carb up other than room in the stomach with the hot bath technique if you feel too wet it is easy to fix.
I am having a hard time forcing myself to eat carbs today I tell you that. UGHH. Imay have to look into some corn dextrose powder or something to lessen the actual food I am ingesting.
Okay finally Cardio today was great, I burned an extra 20 cals today over last time bringing me to 470 cals for the 45 minutes. Getting in better shape now and able to move faster longer.
Well guys, I do beleive I will be doing a skip load this coming Monday. I will take some before pics of me monday before I start the load, then after I am completely spilled over and then maybe another one on the second day after the flushing starts and then when I feel I have peaked. Right now even though my bodyfat is low I still have some fat on my abs and under my pec but my legs, arms shoulders are all very lean so all you may notice is added volume and increased vascularity in the extremeties. My stomoach doesn't truly shape up intil close to 7% percent for some reason, I still have an lb or so before they pop. I can only assume my chest and legs are bigger as my chest and thigh caliper measurements are lower this year than last year at this bodyfat. As that may be a positive it means I am carrying more on my stomach this year. I have not been taking any anticortisol supps this prep and that may be part of the difference in stomach fat. I will be adding in ReCreate in 2 weeks when DCP is gone so that may help with that. Seemed I had a little more even distribution of fat last year and I ran that the whole time it was the first time I wasn't so apple shaped..... I think it may be part of what is different...
I did a mini carb up yesterday / last night. I took in a total of about 1000 grams of carbs in yesterday with 500 of them being the last 5 hours of the day and only having about 20 grams of fat total during the last 5 hours. Cookie Crisps , Fat Free Fig Newtons, Red Hots, Starkist Jelly Beans and Sherbert were the main culprits. Yeah mostly junk but I had some stuff go on at the end of the day and didn't have time for cooking pancakes or anything else for that matter so I rattled off a few low fat sugary things to the wife to grab at the store. That and the SkipLoading is all about carb dense foods with no fat. You can't get much more carb dense and or fat free than Jelly beans and Red Hots. I also chose the fat free figs to make sure everthing came out easily on the back end. Nice info huh? Well it worked too... I also did not drink much water past 6 pm to keep bloat down a bit and still am holing a little water but not much.
Now for the results, I weighed in yesterday at 196 no shoes, after having a meal and some water, today 198 no shoes no food or drink other than about 3 oz water to slam an OEP and 2 DCP pre cardio. Now I can bet I was easily 194-195 fasted yesterday, which leaves me at a HALF of a SkipLoad put on between 2-3 lbs on my frame. I am not seeing a lot more water and expect tomorrow will be even better on that regard. I will keep drinking and may even take a hot bath tonight. There really isn't too much reason limit water intake with the carb up other than room in the stomach with the hot bath technique if you feel too wet it is easy to fix.
I am having a hard time forcing myself to eat carbs today I tell you that. UGHH. Imay have to look into some corn dextrose powder or something to lessen the actual food I am ingesting.
Okay finally Cardio today was great, I burned an extra 20 cals today over last time bringing me to 470 cals for the 45 minutes. Getting in better shape now and able to move faster longer.
Young Gotti
Well-known member
mmm...i like this idea of carb loading....gummy blue sharks for me!
MrKleen73
Legend
I felt my body needed a good rev this week so I threw that bad boy in there. I am checking into if there is any reason not to do the Skip Loads weekly. If I remeber correctly there is not any reason at all as long as you are still losing fat. Which this seems to rev the heck out of the metabolism.
MrKleen73
Legend
Yeah, I will try to use more solid clean foods on the next one. It will be my first true run at it this was a half load, and I think some of it was too close together. However it was succesful at filling me back up.
Okay speaking of preps and what not. I have heard that I may have over conditioned for the last show. However I am not sure I did that so much as really screw up with the diuretic and not carbing up aggressivly enough. Well here is a video of me on 4/13/09 the show was on 5-10-09 so basically a month out. No intentional water manipulation of any sort and had a large carb meal to the point of bloating 2 days prior and the water was comming back off of me. Looking at this I think I still could have done well at this composition I was about 183 here. What do you guys think?
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPty_XROIAE"]YouTube- Flexing abs to check them out.[/nomedia]
Okay speaking of preps and what not. I have heard that I may have over conditioned for the last show. However I am not sure I did that so much as really screw up with the diuretic and not carbing up aggressivly enough. Well here is a video of me on 4/13/09 the show was on 5-10-09 so basically a month out. No intentional water manipulation of any sort and had a large carb meal to the point of bloating 2 days prior and the water was comming back off of me. Looking at this I think I still could have done well at this composition I was about 183 here. What do you guys think?
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPty_XROIAE"]YouTube- Flexing abs to check them out.[/nomedia]
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah that makes sense as well, I saw you full at 5.25 and not so full at 4% and automatically thought overconditioned but your explanation makes just as much if not more sense. The Load will take care of that, you'll see. In my mind even more circumstantial evidence that you and I are on the right track. So good to have someone to hash this out with. It's helping me imensely..
MrKleen73
Legend
Well that was 2-3 days after the competiton, I basically carb loaded for 2 days straight and that is what I looked like. I was supercompensated and had gained back 16 lbs in that 2-3 days. I was only about 3 lbs lighter going into peak week than I was in this video. I was 177.5 the night before the comp and I was so friggin cut people just bled as I walked by them. I stepped on stage at a MUCH SMALLER 171 and flat as a board due to the taraxatone stripping me dry of the water that had been in my muscle...
FlexW99
Well-known member
From an episode of 'Scrubs':
"What do you think you're better than me, wit yer rock hard abs and dynamite arreolas??" :toofunny:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
oufinny
Well-known member
That is retarded Kleen, I am sure it was fun to take all that in... how many friends did you lose from the aftermath of gas??? LOL!
MrKleen73
Legend
Lucky for me I had enough of the red hots I just walked on my hands and everyone thought I was doing mouth raspberries while chewing Big Red.
Honestly other than when I tried to eat my oats a bit ago I have felt fine no gas or anything like that. My body recognized those carbs in the oats and was like... UHM we don't need any more of that!!!!:irked:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
Yeah had the keyboard surgically removed from my fingers so I could actually rest LOL.
Army Guy
Well-known member
and quote of the day honors go to........... MR KLEEN!!!! and we all thank you from the bottom of our eyelids for the splendid visual!!!!
Army Guy
Well-known member
you can't win it twice in the same day!!!! :moon:
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
Damn but I think he did.
MrKleen73
Legend
Chapman's Premium Liniment
Guys I have only been using this 2 times a day and and at first I thought maybe it was just my back healing up quickly but now my elbow doesn't hurt at all after workout yesterday or today. Normally it is a little sore or will ache a bit when doing nothing. None of that past two days. My quad has shown improveent I ran full speed up 3 flights of stairs skipping stairs today and no pain or ache from the quad or tendon.
I am not saying I am healed by any means but this stuff is working. At the minimum to relieve pain but it has a lot of things that promote healing and anti inflammatory, and clearing away by product from inflammation. It is definitely the real deal so far. Now for the cool part it barely has a smell at all. I mean like a faint smell upon spraying that you can not smell at all within a few minutes. My wife HATES the bengay smelling stuff and she will even spread this on my back for me. She has no problem at all with the smell of it never complained once and she is big on sense of smell. I will touch back on this later but for right now I am giving 2 thumbs up.
Guys I have only been using this 2 times a day and and at first I thought maybe it was just my back healing up quickly but now my elbow doesn't hurt at all after workout yesterday or today. Normally it is a little sore or will ache a bit when doing nothing. None of that past two days. My quad has shown improveent I ran full speed up 3 flights of stairs skipping stairs today and no pain or ache from the quad or tendon.
I am not saying I am healed by any means but this stuff is working. At the minimum to relieve pain but it has a lot of things that promote healing and anti inflammatory, and clearing away by product from inflammation. It is definitely the real deal so far. Now for the cool part it barely has a smell at all. I mean like a faint smell upon spraying that you can not smell at all within a few minutes. My wife HATES the bengay smelling stuff and she will even spread this on my back for me. She has no problem at all with the smell of it never complained once and she is big on sense of smell. I will touch back on this later but for right now I am giving 2 thumbs up.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah and you're going to want to take the protein way down too... no need for protein when you ingesting 10,000 cals in a 24-28 hour period. Fat was right on the money...
I got some pie Filling Raspberry and Wildberry each contains 90 grams of carbs per cup. The cherry only had 51...
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
MrKleen73
Legend
On the liniment, my elbow tweaked a little today while doing the Stiff leg deads but it always does gripping with my arm extended all the way is tweak town... However not so bad as usual, and I put the liniment on after my shower and not throbbing or anything, it was at first but went away about 20 minutes after putting on the liniment. Sitting here now like nothing happened and it never had been inflamed. I am gonna give it an ice treatment too but the anti inflammatories in this must be off the chain.
MrKleen73
Legend
Legs and Abs Workout 2
I had another great workout today. Saw some increases in weight and what not. I was taking really short rest periods. My wife was not doing same tempo as me and only doing a max of 10 reps so she kept finishing earlier and I found myself taking shorter and shorter rest periods to keep up with her pace. She is a friggin beast too. She just started taking PowerFULL again. I had one some left and decided to let her have it since I will be taking HGHpro. Although she has more sleeping issues than I do so I may have to get her a bottle of the HGHpro at some point to see how she likes it.
I feel like my physique is coming together a little more. I was a little depleted before the carb up and now I am pretty full. Even my stomach has tightened up a bit. Chest and shoulders are looking full and high. Quads have a swing to them as I walk, full enough I feel the muscle shift and jump with every step. A little more striations on the mid and upper pecs now. Today is a day of feeling confident due to the reflection in the mirror this morning.
I hear news that I should be receiving my HGHpro today is the tracking info is right so... WooHoo! Watch out this log is about to go pro!!!
Quads
Leg Press - 225x15, 405x15, 495x15, 545x15 Okay check it out guys, up 40 on 3rd set and 90 on 4rth same reps. No that is not a strength increase so much as being more willing to push my leg harder. However it will definitely result in some more growth and some DOMS. Guess what NO TENDON PAIN, & NO QUAD PAIN!!!! NICE!!!!!!! I am very very happy about this.
Front Squats - 135x15, 165x9 - I did 5 more on beginning set and 10 lbs heavier but 3 reps less on 2nd set than last week. Volume of workload slightly higher this week. I did these with X grip this time. It seems easier but where exactly on your shoulders should the bar rest, mine will get on my collar bone and then it really sucks…
Leg Ext. 205x10, 205x5>145x3>100x2 - I extended the drop for another set due to the low amount I was able to do. I know that meant I was already hosed but hey might as well keep punishing right?
Hamstrings
Stiff leg dead lift - 150x15, 165x15, 175x13, 180x10 - Wow these bad boys were really getting me there at the end. My elbow tweaked a little here by the end of the last set it was aggravated. It got a little achy after that until I got some of the liniment on it. Now it is feeling pretty good. Will still ice it here in a few to get rid of any inflammation that may still be there. I am not exactly sure why but for some reason I was hitting 15 instead of going up farther and lowering reps. I think I got stuck in the higher rep mode from working quads that way.
Seated leg Curl - 130x8, 130x3 Wow just done, the high reps on the SLD's just completely smashed my hammies til nothing was left.
Lying Leg Curl - 95x3, 65x5>40x2 Man these numbers are pathetic, isn't it awesome how fatigued I was by this point!
Calves & Abs
Std Donkey Calve raise 310x15>210x12 what a burn those slow reps on these are brutal.
Std. Bent Knee Calve raise - 90x15>45x9 - same burn here. I have to admit I love having big calves because I don't enjoy it when they are ridiculously sore.
Abs
Drawbridges - 15, 7>9 decline crunches. These drawbridges are just stupid forms of torture I tell you. Rolling the back off the pad one vertebrae at a time why legs extended in front of you makes this a max effort by the second set. I will add in more crunches in saunas on cardio days now too.
I think I need to eat more greens, these look REALLY appetizing.
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After that I may feel like some running…
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But then again I could finish it off with a hard bike ride…
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I had another great workout today. Saw some increases in weight and what not. I was taking really short rest periods. My wife was not doing same tempo as me and only doing a max of 10 reps so she kept finishing earlier and I found myself taking shorter and shorter rest periods to keep up with her pace. She is a friggin beast too. She just started taking PowerFULL again. I had one some left and decided to let her have it since I will be taking HGHpro. Although she has more sleeping issues than I do so I may have to get her a bottle of the HGHpro at some point to see how she likes it.
I feel like my physique is coming together a little more. I was a little depleted before the carb up and now I am pretty full. Even my stomach has tightened up a bit. Chest and shoulders are looking full and high. Quads have a swing to them as I walk, full enough I feel the muscle shift and jump with every step. A little more striations on the mid and upper pecs now. Today is a day of feeling confident due to the reflection in the mirror this morning.
I hear news that I should be receiving my HGHpro today is the tracking info is right so... WooHoo! Watch out this log is about to go pro!!!
Quads
Leg Press - 225x15, 405x15, 495x15, 545x15 Okay check it out guys, up 40 on 3rd set and 90 on 4rth same reps. No that is not a strength increase so much as being more willing to push my leg harder. However it will definitely result in some more growth and some DOMS. Guess what NO TENDON PAIN, & NO QUAD PAIN!!!! NICE!!!!!!! I am very very happy about this.
Front Squats - 135x15, 165x9 - I did 5 more on beginning set and 10 lbs heavier but 3 reps less on 2nd set than last week. Volume of workload slightly higher this week. I did these with X grip this time. It seems easier but where exactly on your shoulders should the bar rest, mine will get on my collar bone and then it really sucks…
Leg Ext. 205x10, 205x5>145x3>100x2 - I extended the drop for another set due to the low amount I was able to do. I know that meant I was already hosed but hey might as well keep punishing right?
Hamstrings
Stiff leg dead lift - 150x15, 165x15, 175x13, 180x10 - Wow these bad boys were really getting me there at the end. My elbow tweaked a little here by the end of the last set it was aggravated. It got a little achy after that until I got some of the liniment on it. Now it is feeling pretty good. Will still ice it here in a few to get rid of any inflammation that may still be there. I am not exactly sure why but for some reason I was hitting 15 instead of going up farther and lowering reps. I think I got stuck in the higher rep mode from working quads that way.
Seated leg Curl - 130x8, 130x3 Wow just done, the high reps on the SLD's just completely smashed my hammies til nothing was left.
Lying Leg Curl - 95x3, 65x5>40x2 Man these numbers are pathetic, isn't it awesome how fatigued I was by this point!
Calves & Abs
Std Donkey Calve raise 310x15>210x12 what a burn those slow reps on these are brutal.
Std. Bent Knee Calve raise - 90x15>45x9 - same burn here. I have to admit I love having big calves because I don't enjoy it when they are ridiculously sore.
Abs
Drawbridges - 15, 7>9 decline crunches. These drawbridges are just stupid forms of torture I tell you. Rolling the back off the pad one vertebrae at a time why legs extended in front of you makes this a max effort by the second set. I will add in more crunches in saunas on cardio days now too.
I think I need to eat more greens, these look REALLY appetizing.
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After that I may feel like some running…
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But then again I could finish it off with a hard bike ride…
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A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
Those are the nicest looking greens I have seen.:tongue2:
VolcomX311
Legend
I was going to make a comment about Kleen's workout, then I saw that bicycle chick and went blank.
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
AI Sports Nutrition
LMAO!!!
MrKleen73
Legend
So far it is a Godsend. Noticing something for sure at what 3 days to start not bad at all.
I know right. This has plagued me enuff I am ready to sing about anything that helps it. Let's be honest here the use of the horse liniment in no way implies that I am a stud! However being that I AM a stud it is appropriate!
Yeah most other greens don't get me licking my lips...
Yeah, I can see that happening. LOL
MrKleen73
Legend
Oh yeah Army, you mentioned my legs being toast yeah, I almost fell down twice from my legs giving way under me. Walking like Frankenstein and accidentally let the leg bend and it just kept on bending as I began to topple to the side barely able to catch myself. LOL AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah that happens ... guess we only have enough blood for one head.... :irked:
Army Guy
Well-known member
would have actually paid money to watch that!!!! :smirk:
MrKleen73
Legend
My wife almost choked on her drink. She was in the middle of a big swig when I my knee just flat out buckled I had to grab onto the machine I was walking by not too fall. I mean completely gave out.
