
Are you running a preworkout log as well right now?
Hmm...kind of skews the results here then.
Stimulant preworkout generally increase rates of fat burning,adding a confounding variable.
soooo, it's kinda like you're doubling up on the fat burner?!Wow, interesting. I didn't know that.soooo, it's kinda like you're doubling up on the fat burner?!
Today was a scheduled rest day but I went in this morning and did 45 mins of cardio stairs, rowing and a little elliptical. Then followed up with some yoga, stretching, and abs.
Now that it is summer we are very busy at work! Plus next week the office will be closed making us even busier...luckily I haven't have any cake orders but I'm prepping food and everything we need for the trip! Lost of stuff keeping me very busy!![]()
Yeah, pretty much. You are increasing the number of calories burned during workout, so throwing off the results of the fat burner stack alone.
There is absolutely no way to discern, when looking at total fat loss, the results of a new combination when used alone and when used in conjunction with a stimulant preworkout. That's why tester logs look to isolate away anything that could skew results.
There is absolutely no way to discern, when looking at total fat loss, the results of a new combination when used alone and when used in conjunction with a stimulant preworkout. That's why tester logs look to isolate away anything that could skew results.
But people run multiple logs all the time.
The pwo I use is currently stim free, but I add caffeine powder to it. In the beginning, I too, stated (and have stated in my log recently) that was what I would be running. I can cut the pwo out if I need to, but not necessarily the caffeine. My body is very accustomed to its caffeine fix & without it I get migraines. So, how is that going to affect my results/log??
Run it to the wheels fall off mrs. yates, im sure that's what the big studdly hubby would say![]()
Bahaha!! That does sound about right...except for sponsored logs!!
Caffeine is actually a relatively poor standalone fat burner, and is also assumed to be part of any (normal) person's daily routine. There are two types of people in the world - people that love coffee and people that are wrong.
love2liftkat - You should be ok to finish out both logs, including the preworkout. We can just make a note at the end of your summary indicating the preworkout use for anyone considering the Ammo/Epitome stack. There are two other logs that they can average for a good idea of what to expect, so we should be ok.
So should I continue my pwo as well? I can cut that if you'd prefer. I only use half a scoop of the nonstim.
Is caffeine the only stim in it, nothing specifically included to burn fat?
Honestly, I'd have to ask hubby. I'm still learning what specifically does what. It's the stim free OL Conqu3r.
I add the caffeine myself bc I find a better balance that way.
Thats what i use while cutting. It has no stims. Its really great, that way can stack it easily with your fat burner of choice![]()
Uhm... can i put in a few orders?? lol you know im on an all time bulk and cake is my #1 fav. little helper..

Haha absolutely! I'll make a pound cake...it will give you the best "bang" for your buck! Lol
Thanks for joining! Glad you're here!
I have stopped my pwo for now. I will return to using it after the log is done! I will say, just for anyone reading the log now or later...I have been using a pwo and several fat burners since January with no weight loss. I actually gained weight...
I have stopped my pwo for now. I will return to using it after the log is done! I will say, just for anyone reading the log now or later...I have been using a pwo and several fat burners since January with no weight loss. I actually gained weight...
Hell, I'm looking to gain some weight. How about a referral?
Hell yes!!! just tell me when and ill be there Thanksawesome log and routines you got here!
you are one of the awesomest woman I've seen in the fitness world. keep kicking ass!
Hell, I'm looking to gain some weight. How about a referral?
Enjoy your time off & your trip, Kat!!
Aww Thank you!!Your's are great too!
Lol...have a sluggish thyroid and hormonal imbalance --unfortunately it won't be the weight you want!![]()
Thank you!!![]()
Are we still alive?
Are we still alive?
Who's WE, you got a mouse in your pocket? j/k I think shes on vacation, i'm sure she will have some good news as far as her routine goes, nothing would give me more motivation then the beach right now I know that much
Cool...So far I've had one customer take Epitome with them on vacation. Even skipping a couple of doses, so they could fully enjoy some buffets, they actually came back leaner.
Let's hope for the same here.
that's awesome, must be some good stuff!!
Cool...So far I've had one customer take Epitome with them on vacation. Even skipping a couple of doses, so they could fully enjoy some buffets, they actually came back leaner.
Let's hope for the same here.
I'm back! ...It is some great stuff!! How long can you run them? I will likely be buying more to stack after I run out!