Jason's Spring Bulk/Cut Cycle: P-Plex, Tren, H-Drol

[jasonkkk]

maybe you just werent good at it? im not pro....but im better than all my friends i play with. i workout so i guess that why? i def added yards to my drive throughout this cycle! hahaha my drives are around 250-275. thats not great but when my friends are only throwing 200 and less. i can almost tomahawk as far as they drive lmao

I'm all right, I just never liked golf of any sorts (guess i don't like the concept). I don't mind hitting a few balls out at the driving range from time to time.

 

[TNASTYII]

I'm all right, I just never liked golf of any sorts (guess i don't like the concept). I don't mind hitting a few balls out at the driving range from time to time.

i gotcha...speaking of i need to hit up the driving range tomm and hit some bc i havnt in so long. i have some nice clubs so i should use them once in a while haha. pay day tomm!!

 

[jasonkkk]

i gotcha...speaking of i need to hit up the driving range tomm and hit some bc i havnt in so long. i have some nice clubs so i should use them once in a while haha. pay day tomm!!

ha! i've got some ancient clubs in my garage.. from around 412 b.c.; they could def be put to use soon. :rofl:

 

[TNASTYII]

i have some older adams gold clubs. got the 3 and 4 iron hybrids....i LOVE that 3 iron hybrid omg. i can smoke that thing almost as far as some of my drives. thats like my go to off the tee. but i have a r7 driver. its alittle out dated too...but i cant keep up with technology in golf lol. i can beast that thing too. i def need to go hit some tommorow. thanks for the idea!!! tomm is an off day anyways(always seem to hit further on cycle hmm wonder why). crushed back today
412 bc? thats like before wooden drivers hahaha

 

[jasonkkk]

i have some older adams gold clubs. got the 3 and 4 iron hybrids....i LOVE that 3 iron hybrid omg. i can smoke that thing almost as far as some of my drives. thats like my go to off the tee. but i have a r7 driver. its alittle out dated too...but i cant keep up with technology in golf lol. i can beast that thing too. i def need to go hit some tommorow. thanks for the idea!!! tomm is an off day anyways(always seem to hit further on cycle hmm wonder why). crushed back today
412 bc? thats like before wooden drivers hahaha

nice, mang. enjoy and have fun! don't even know what i have.. but yes, 412bc precisely as they part seas when i tee off.. that, or, they're just old, heavy, rusty pieces of shiat lol. i'd prob swing my arm off if i went up to the range tmrw... maybe in a few months time i'll hit some.

 

[jasonkkk]

DAY 46 THURSDAY 5/14/09

Weight - 203lbs (+23.5)

90mg Tren, 150mg HD

CHEST/TRICEPS/BICEPS
#s/Reps
Flat Bench Press- 135x10, 185x8, 225x6, 275x6, 225x6
Decline Bench Press - 185x10, 225x6, 275x6
Incline DB Flies - 45x10, 60x8, 80x6
Decline Cable Crossovers (standing) - 30x10, 50x8, 60x6
A1. EZ Curls (21s) 75x7-7-7, 75x7-7-7, 75x7-7-7
A2. WG French Press - 75x10, 95x8, 125x8 (NEW PR)
B1. Incline DB Curls - 25x10, 35x8, 45x6
B2. Reverse Pulldowns - 100x10, 150x8, 200x6 (NEW PR)
C1. Hammer Curls (standing & simultaneous) 25x10, 45x8, 65x6 (NEW PR)
C2. Machine Tricep Overhead Ext. - 60x10, 80x8, 110x6 (NEW PR)

My joints went through hell today, and hurt like never before during presses. My strength and recovery were definitely there as I did Incline Bench yesterday. It was the initial press up from my chest that hurt the most.. pain in my wrists and mostly forearms. I can truly say that if it weren't for my joints, I would be setting new bench pr's today. I was going to do flat db presses today, but decided against them as they always put more stress into my joints. My joints mainly hurt during my chest exercises.. they weren't as bad on my bi/tri sesh. I set 4 more new pr's today - 3 on triceps, 1 on biceps. My strength is for sure stagnant now due to my joints. My quads feel much better today, but my right ankle is hurting worse than yesterday. I want to hit front squats tomorrow, so i'll be sure to wrap that bad boy up.

I am cancelling to get my blood work done tomorrow, and will reschedule sometime next week, or perhaps after PCT.

I am intrigued that my weight is still going up at the rate it is during this last week of my cycle - 205 is in hands reach.

As for my joints, I will keep dosing the same until the end of next week.. if I need to bump up during PCT, then that will be exactly what I do.

LIBIDO 6.5/10
JOINT PAIN 7.5/10 (ouch fkn ouch!)
FOCUS 7.75/10 (wandering eyes)
RECOVERY 8/10 (better than yesterday)
BACK PUMPS 0/10 (back also feels better today)
PUMPS 9/10
VASCULARITY 9/10
BLOAT 2.5/10 (still present)
ACNE 1/10
AGGRESSION 8/10 (controllable)
STRENGTH 8/10
SORENESS 1/10
MUSCLE HARDNESS 10/10
SLEEP 10/10 (good, long sleep)
LETHARGY 4.25/10 (napped it off)
WELL-BEING 7.5/10

*had a nosebleed and headache today

Jason K.

 

[TNASTYII]

yea son get that 205!!!!! im pretty sure my 230 is in reach by the end of this thing. thats only 5.4 lbs more for like 2 weeks. its MINE!! haha idk if ima go hit some balls(no homo)...i think i might go catch some fish and chill today. hopefully i can catch enough for a meal! haha...doesnt get better than free meals, and knowing you caught them(gotta love catfish)

 

[jasonkkk]

yea son get that 205!!!!! im pretty sure my 230 is in reach by the end of this thing. thats only 5.4 lbs more for like 2 weeks. its MINE!! haha idk if ima go hit some balls(no homo)...i think i might go catch some fish and chill today. hopefully i can catch enough for a meal! haha...doesnt get better than free meals, and knowing you caught them(gotta love catfish)

i'd rather fish than golf.. catfish is zaight.

 

[jasonkkk]

DAY 47 FRIDAY 5/15/09

Weight - not taken

90mg Tren, 150mg HD

HAMS/CALVES/ABS
#s/Reps
Standing Leg Curls - 50x10, 100x8, 150x6
Lying Leg Curls - 60x10, 90x8, 120x6
1-Legged Modular Press - 80x10, 120x8, 160x8
Seated Leg Curls - 60x10, 90x8, 120x6
A1. Seated Leg Calf Raises - 225x15, 225x15
A2. Machine Standing Calf Raises- 150x10, 150x10
B1. Machine Crunches - 120x5, 120x15, 120x15
B2. Rope Side Crunches (Standing) - 120x5, 120x15, 120x15

I'm not sure what's killing me more today: my fiance or my right ankle. Aside from that, my workout went easy today and quick. I went light on hams and did a couple sets for my calves - which hurt the fk out of my ankle. My ab sesh went well. I really wanted to hit front squats today, but i'm glad i didn't, for my ankle would only be more fked. Had another nosebleed today, so I decided to split up my HD in two separate doses of 75mg each, instead of taking all 150mg at once as I have been.

Tomorrow I will hit delts/traps/back/forearms and maybe throw in a few hanging leg raises. Sunday I will take off and take updated pictures.

I'm still debating whether to start my PCT on sunday or monday.:dunno:

LIBIDO 0/10 (fkn pissed at my fiance)
(LIBIDO FOR THE GYM GALS 20/10)
JOINT PAIN 7.5/10 (right ankle)
FOCUS 8.25/10
RECOVERY 8.5/10
BACK PUMPS 0/10
PUMPS 7.5/10 (i usually dont feel big pumps in my hams, just hardness)
VASCULARITY 7.5/10 (lower bod vascularity)
BLOAT 2.5/10
ACNE 1.5/10
AGGRESSION 6/10
STRENGTH 8/10
SORENESS 0.5/10
MUSCLE HARDNESS 8.5/10
SLEEP 10/10
LETHARGY 5.5/10 (napped it off)
WELL-BEING undetermined/10

Jason K.

 

[KgTomCat]

alot of Hammy work with them curls!

 

[jasonkkk]

alot of Hammy work with them curls!

:approve:

 

[jasonkkk]

DAY 48 SATURDAY 5/16/09

Weight - 203lbs (+23.5)

OFF DAY

90mg Tren, 150mg HD

I'll continue my workout tomorrow. PCT starts on Monday.

 

[KgTomCat]

23 pounds in impressive!

 

[bezoe]

No pics yet? I bet your'e pretty swole after packing on 23. I'm about to start a Tren/P-plex cycle and just found this log the other day. (took me a couple days to read through the whole thing) Amazing results man! I could definetely live with the gains you made just by week 4. So does the tren keep the water retention down from p-plex? How much fat, if any, would you say you've gained?

 

[TNASTYII]

im pretty sure the tren kept water retention and fat gain to a min! atleast thats how it effects me

 

[jasonkkk]

23 pounds in impressive!

thank you, kind sir!

 

[jasonkkk]

No pics yet? I bet your'e pretty swole after packing on 23. I'm about to start a Tren/P-plex cycle and just found this log the other day. (took me a couple days to read through the whole thing) Amazing results man! I could definetely live with the gains you made just by week 4. So does the tren keep the water retention down from p-plex? How much fat, if any, would you say you've gained?

yes, i've got pics... but, you lot will have to wait until the end of my PCT run as i'll post up pictures AFTER cycle and AFTER pct for comparison. six weeks to go starting tomorrow!

thanks! i am swole as all hell now. as for PP, i would have to say it's not as wet as most say. but to answer your question, yes, the tren does help keep you dried out. i would say i've gained about 5 or so pounds of fat due to a NASTY diet. during my run with the tren/pp i dirty dieted the heck out of it, because of work complications.. i had no time to cook my own meals, so fast food was the only answer to my hunger. i broke the "clean diet" promise to myself as my diet was only real clean during weeks five and six. i've put maybe an inch around my waist, but i'm still very pleased with the rest of my results. i will work very hard during pct to drop those bf %'s.

jason

 

[jasonkkk]

im pretty sure the tren kept water retention and fat gain to a min! atleast thats how it effects me

correct.

 

[jasonkkk]

PCT DAY 1 SUNDAY 5/17/09

Weight 203.5lbs (+24)

Clomid @ 50mg in the evening
Bio Forge @ 4 caps/day

End of week 7 reviews:

It's been a fun ride, but this cycle is now coming to an end. I've started PCT today. Week seven brought me more joint pain than the past few weeks, and my right ankle is still hurting. I've put on twenty-four pounds, five of which I'll guestimate are fat, until I get my BF% checked. My body is looking a lot bigger and leaner. Work has prohibited much of my clean, ideal diet during this cycle; I'm completely happy with the results though. I didn't have the chance to get into the gym today, so my workout will continue tomorrow on.

I've set my Bench (335x1) and Squat (500x1) PR goals, but 25lbs off of my Deadlift (425/450)which I think I can still obtain during pct. My other goals were:

1) Pack On More Weight (LBM)
2) Under 10% BF (smaller waist, build lower abs/obliques)
3) Bigger Arms (mainly biceps & forearms)
4) Wider Back
5) More Strength and Size

Results: 0-100% Scale

1) 75% (packed on unwanted fat)
2) 0% (bigger waist, but more defined abs)
3) 95% (bigger and more visible biceps and triceps)
4) 90% (back is much wider)
5) 100% (strength skyrocketed and so did size)

Q: Would I recommend this cycle to anyone?
A: Definitely not to a virgin.
Q: If I could have changed up this cycle, what would I have personally done?
A: Ran the cycle at six weeks - Tren 90/90/90/90/90/90, HD 50/75/100/100/100/100, PP 0/0/20/30/30/40
Also, I would have preloaded a lot more joint supps, and taken in more fish oils along with doubling up on joint supports.
I would have upped the HB's when I upped the HD.
Q: Pros and Cons for me?
A: Pros = euphoria, big gains in strength and size, alpha-male feeling, good aggression as good motivation at times
Cons = minor acne (all the way through), aching joints (during last few weeks), lethargy (off and on all the way through), strange dreams (" "), nosebleeds (during last week), itching (during last 1.5-2 weeks)
Q: How did I dose everything?
A: PP split up evenly, Tren split up evenly, HD taken all at once (in a.m.) before workout and split up on off days.

Days 1-3 - 20mg P-Plex, 30mg Tren, 0mg H-Drol
Days 4-7 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren, 0mg H-Drol
Week 2 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren, 0mg H-Drol
Week 3 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren, 50mg H-Drol
Week 4 - 40mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren, 50mg H-Drol
Week 5 - 0mg P-Plex, 90mg Tren, 75mg H-Drol
Week 6 - 0mg P-Plex, 90mg Tren, 75mg H-Drol
Week 7 - 0mg P-Plex, 90mg Tren, 150mg H-Drol


New measurements will be taken tomorrow cold/upon awakening and posted. Pictures have been taken, but will not be posted until the end of PCT, with PCT pictures for similarities/differences.

I will continue changing up my workout, but using the same 10,8,6,6 rep-scheme for the first week; If I run into any problems, I'll try the 3-4set/10-12rep scheme.

I will continue taking supporting supps along with creatine (size-on and jack3d). PCT will last for six weeks in total.

Layout of PCT:

Clomid 50/25/25/0/0/0
Bio Forge 4/4/4/4/4/4
aPCT 0/2/2/3/3/3

Clomid taken in the evening, BF dosed @ 2/1/1 nonWO, 2/2WO, and aPCT starting in week 2-6.

Blood work will be taken after PCT.

Stay tuned, dudes. I am expecting my PCT to be a big success.

*If I've forgotten anything, someone please feel free to add.*

Jason K.

 

[KgTomCat]

keep lifting heavy and hard in PCT Jason, and good results!!!

also, did u notice any shedding?

 

[TNASTYII]

nice man. im sure your glad to be starting pct. i strained my back last back workout and ive had to take more than a couple days off. its getting better but im thinkin about cuttin it short and saving the last 30 pills to run with another bottle of hroid in the future (for a full 4 weeks at 75mg). i just dont think its worth it to keep going(i think ive maxed out str for this cycle). ive gained a ton of str and ive gained around 8 or 9lbs so im happy with cutting it short. ill prob start pct on wed. GL with your pct...ill still be watching!

 

[bezoe]

i will work very hard during pct to drop those bf %'s.

I appreciate that. . . J/K

I'm late but I'll stick around to see how the PCT turns out and the before and after pics. I'm starting my cycle this week and I'll be referring to your's for guidance.

 

[TNASTYII]

nvm man....im retarded. hahaha. my backs feeling ALOT better after like 5 days off. im ready to get back in the gym and keep this thing going. i only have 9 days left at 75mg so im going to continue this thing. hope your pct is going good! ill be on mine soon :[

 

[jasonkkk]

keep lifting heavy and hard in PCT Jason, and good results!!!

also, did u notice any shedding?

thank you. i noticed no shedding.

 

[jasonkkk]

nice man. im sure your glad to be starting pct. i strained my back last back workout and ive had to take more than a couple days off. its getting better but im thinkin about cuttin it short and saving the last 30 pills to run with another bottle of hroid in the future (for a full 4 weeks at 75mg). i just dont think its worth it to keep going(i think ive maxed out str for this cycle). ive gained a ton of str and ive gained around 8 or 9lbs so im happy with cutting it short. ill prob start pct on wed. GL with your pct...ill still be watching!

thx man

 

[jasonkkk]

i will work very hard during pct to drop those bf %'s.

I appreciate that. . . J/K

I'm late but I'll stick around to see how the PCT turns out and the before and after pics. I'm starting my cycle this week and I'll be referring to your's for guidance.

coocoo. what does your cycle look like?

 

[jasonkkk]

nvm man....im retarded. hahaha. my backs feeling ALOT better after like 5 days off. im ready to get back in the gym and keep this thing going. i only have 9 days left at 75mg so im going to continue this thing. hope your pct is going good! ill be on mine soon :[

nice, man. hit those weights hard.

 

[jasonkkk]

PCT DAY 2 MONDAY 5/18/09



Weight - not taken


off day



50mg Clomid, 4 Bio Forge


PCT DAY 3 TUESDAY 5/19/09


Weight - 203.75



50mg Clomid, 4caps Bio Forge



CHEST
#s/Reps
Flat Bench Press - 95x10, 135x10, 185x8, 225x6, 275x6
Incline Bench Press - 155x10, 185x8, 225x6
Pec-Deck (deep stretch) - 160x10, 180x8, 200x6
Dips - BWx15, BWx12, BWx12

TRICEPS
#s/Reps
Skull Crushers - 75x10, 95x8, 115x6
Rope Pulldowns - 80x10, 120x8, 150x6
Reverse Grip Pulldowns - 100x10, 150x8, 175x6

Duration of workout: 53mins

LIBIDO 6.75/10
JOINT PAIN 1.5/10
FOCUS 9/10
RECOVERY 9.25/10
PUMPS 10/10 (huge pumps in both my chest and triceps)
VASCULARITY 8/10
BLOAT 0/10
ACNE 2.25/10 (only thing i hate about pct)
STRENGTH 9/10
SORENESS 0/10
MUSCLE HARDNESS 10/10
SLEEP 7/10 (did not get enough)
LETHARGY *present due to lack of sleep
WELL-BEING 9.25/10

I may supplement in Somatophen to better the good rest that I'm due. I may also supplement in either Glycobol or AP.

I started taking Jack3ed and SizeOn today. My pumps were hellacious! I'm surprised I'm still gaining weight during pct; this seems odd. My strength is still positively up, right ankle is feeling better, and my recovery today was excellent.

Below I'll list measurement comparisons. I took recent measurements this past sunday. The measurements were taken 72 hours after last workout and upon awakening.

MEASUREMENTS:

Before (3/30/09) - After (5/17/09)

Weight - 179.5/203.5 > (+24lbs)
Chest/Back - 42.5"/43.5" > (+1")
Waist - 35"/36" > (+1")
Legs - 25.5"/25.9" > (+0.4")
Calves - 16"/16.6" > (+0.6")
Arms - 13.75" (15.25" 'flexed bicep')/14.85 (16.4") > (+1.10", +1.15")
Forearms - 12"/12.6" > (+.06")

I'm looking very lean and vascular. I've gained an inch around my waist (the only thing i'm not happy about). My legs didn't grow much, but I suppose it's more muscle now as they look more defined. My arms grew the most size by over an inch. So far, I'm very pleased with these results. I've reached my goals and I'm eager to see how pct treats me. During pct, I will work on keeping/gaining my strength, weight, size, add MORE back width, and shed a few inches off of my waist. All before/after pictures will be posted after pct. Bloodwork will also be done after pct.

Jason K.

 

[TNASTYII]

sounds like day 3 went well. keep at it bro!

 

[KgTomCat]

275x6 on flat then 225x6 incline is sick man

 

[jasonkkk]

sounds like day 3 went well. keep at it bro!

thanks, bro!

 

[jasonkkk]

275x6 on flat then 225x6 incline is sick man

i hadn't noticed, but now that you mention so, i agree - that is sick!

the bio forge is def doin' its job along w. the jack3d and sizeon.

 

[shaddow]

Great work, bro! You've put on a ****ton of mass!! :scared:

 

[jasonkkk]

Great work, bro! You've put on a ****ton of mass!! :scared:

thanks, mang!

 

[jasonkkk]

PCT DAY 4 WEDNESDAY 5/20/09

Weight - 203.25

50mg Clomid, 4caps BioForge, 1scp SizeOn, 3scp Jack3d.

BACK
#s/Reps
Smith Machine Bent-Over Rows - 115x10, 165x8, 205x6, 255x6
T-Bar Rows (CG) - 45x10, 70x8, 90x6, 115x6
Rack Pulls (knee height) 45x10, 135x5, 225x5, 315x5, 405x3, 495x1

BICEPS
#s/Reps
BB Curls (in the squat rack - j/k) - 95x10, 115x6, 135x6
Cable Curls - 50x10, 70x8, 80x8
Standing DB Curls - 30x10, 40x8, 50x6

Duration of workout: 55mins

Today, my back workout went very well and fast. When it came time to hit biceps, the weights felt heavier. I tried Rack Pulls to strengthen up my Deadifts next week. The Rack Pulls, I thought, were fun. I wanted to load up more weight for my last set, but did not due to the strain in back.

I am really liking the Jack3d and SizeOn stack. My pumps have been good and my strength seems to be holding its own.

I am still taking my supporting supps. Fish oils have been lowered to 3g/day. My joints feel fine, but my right ankle has been acting up again. I will be Squatting on friday, so I will be sure to wrap both ankles tight and put on knee wraps. My nose has still been bleeding - I believe now that it is just a scab that has not had time to heal (only bleeds when I blow my nose hard), but I am still taking many HB's each day. If I don't start cardio this week; I will next week - I will hit it hard until end of PCT.



I dropped .5lbs today. For some reason, I am still shredding up during PCT. I would recommend Bio Forge to anyone and everyone. I will actually be dosing the Clomid different: 50mg X 5 days, 25mg X 10 days. Advanced PCT starts next week at 2 caps/day. Might possibly throw in some sort of fat burner near the end.

I think the above sums today up. Enjoy.

Jason

PCT DAY 5 THURSDAY 5/21/09

Weight - not taken

50mg Clomid, 4caps Bio Forge, 0scp Jack3ed, 1scp SizeOn

Workout will continue tomorrow with legs.

 

[TNASTYII]

i keep dropping weight too...and im still on lol. i guess its leaning me out or im dropping water weight. idk whats going on. have fun with legs tommorow! hahaha

 

[KgTomCat]

i keep dropping weight too...and im still on lol. i guess its leaning me out or im dropping water weight. idk whats going on. have fun with legs tommorow! hahaha

bodyweight right...not lifts, just keep pushing the big weights!
:thumbsup:

 

[TNASTYII]

bodyweight right...not lifts, just keep pushing the big weights!
:thumbsup:

yea man...i meant bodyweight. i was up to 224.6 now im down to 221.6 idk why? i dont look smaller and im def not getting weaker. i hit some nice pr's today in the gym for back. ive never lost weight while "on" though.

 

[bezoe]

coocoo. what does your cycle look like?

Who, me? No way!

Here's this (tentative):
week 1- 30mg tren/20 p plex
week 2- 30mg tren/ 30 p plex
week 3- 60 tren/40 p plex
week 4- 60 tren/40 p plex
week 5- 90 tren
week 6- 90 tren

As far as cycle support, I'm currently preloading some thistle and hawthorne berries.
PCT will most likely be one of the SERM's, a test booster and possibly a cortisol control.

 

[KgTomCat]

do u think it could've been water??

 

[TNASTYII]

do u think it could've been water??

thats really my only guess. i did feel kinda bloated mid cycle so maybe.

 

[jasonkkk]

Who, me? No way!

Here's this (tentative):
week 1- 30mg tren/20 p plex
week 2- 30mg tren/ 30 p plex
week 3- 60 tren/40 p plex
week 4- 60 tren/40 p plex
week 5- 90 tren
week 6- 90 tren

As far as cycle support, I'm currently preloading some thistle and hawthorne berries.
PCT will most likely be one of the SERM's, a test booster and possibly a cortisol control.

Looks all right, except, I would run the Tren at 60mg for the first four weeks (assuming it's TrenX), and run the PP at 20/30/30/40. TrenX doesn't really do much at 30mg,. and for PP, I think that 30mg would be sufficient (with last week at 40mg). Have fun!

 

[jasonkkk]

PCT DAY 6

25mg Clomid, 1scp SizeOn, 4caps BioForge

OFF

Weight - not taken

*Very busy with work this week

PCT DAY 7

25mg Clomid, 1scp SizeOn, 4caps BioForge

OFF

Weight - not taken

*Still very busy with work this week


I am hoping to make it into the gym tomorrow, and I will hit something like delts/traps/legs/upperback.

 

[bezoe]

Looks all right, except, I would run the Tren at 60mg for the first four weeks (assuming it's TrenX), and run the PP at 20/30/30/40. TrenX doesn't really do much at 30mg,. and for PP, I think that 30mg would be sufficient (with last week at 40mg). Have fun!

True. Tren is a little underdosed. I just wanted to end the cycle strong with 90 mg since I'll be off the p plex. I only have 1 bottle of both, but do you think 60mg tren would be sufficient for the whole 6 weeks? BTW, I am 210lbs.

Also, I don't recall you saying why you chose Clomid instead of Nolva for PCT.

 

[bezoe]

And what's the deal with the quote saying the wrong person's name? I must be doing it wong.

 

[jasonkkk]

True. Tren is a little underdosed. I just wanted to end the cycle strong with 90 mg since I'll be off the p plex. I only have 1 bottle of both, but do you think 60mg tren would be sufficient for the whole 6 weeks? BTW, I am 210lbs.

Also, I don't recall you saying why you chose Clomid instead of Nolva for PCT.

Two bottles of Tren would help, but 6 weeks X 60mg is doable. I would opt that you bump up the Tren when you get off of the PP (if possible). Perhaps, start the PP during week three? I believe PP ran at 20/30/30/40 would be profuse for your weight, but you could definitely bump up the Tren.

Nolva upregulates PR, causing progesterone/prolactin issues if using Tren (progestin). If the Tren clears, there should be no problem using it for PCT. I chose Clomid just to be on the safe side.

Not sure about your quote question; I usually just hit the quote button.

 

[TNASTYII]

well...i decided to start pct today. i just feel it was time to cut it. im alittle disapointed in my weight gains that i made.i did get multiple comments on my size gains(i guess i cant really tell by myself. the only thing i see is my shoulders are def bigger and my back got alot wider) only gained around 5-6lbs....but im VERY happy with the str gains that i have made. im def bigger and my shirts are tighter, and my pants still fit the same before my cycle. i just thought i could have gained more lbm. time to take a loooong break for my next cycle. im thinking its gonna be a tren/pplex or just straight pplex.

 

[jasonkkk]

well...i decided to start pct today. i just feel it was time to cut it. im alittle disapointed in my weight gains that i made.i did get multiple comments on my size gains(i guess i cant really tell by myself. the only thing i see is my shoulders are def bigger and my back got alot wider) only gained around 5-6lbs....but im VERY happy with the str gains that i have made. im def bigger and my shirts are tighter, and my pants still fit the same before my cycle. i just thought i could have gained more lbm. time to take a loooong break for my next cycle. im thinking its gonna be a tren/pplex or just straight pplex.

good job, bro, and good luck in pct! it's hard to gauge your own gains, esp if you look in the mirror all the time - measuring up would be the best way. you'll for sure like the tren/pp.

 

[bezoe]

Two bottles of Tren would help, but 6 weeks X 60mg is doable. I would opt that you bump up the Tren when you get off of the PP (if possible). Perhaps, start the PP during week three? I believe PP ran at 20/30/30/40 would be profuse for your weight, but you could definitely bump up the Tren.

Nolva upregulates PR, causing progesterone/prolactin issues if using Tren (progestin). If the Tren clears, there should be no problem using it for PCT. I chose Clomid just to be on the safe side.

Not sure about your quote question; I usually just hit the quote button.

Gotcha. My buddy and I were both gonna run a cycle concurrently, so I ordered us both tren; m-drol for him, and p-plex for me. He coped out on the m-drol, so I'll probably send it back and get an extra bottle of tren. I'm scared of it too.

Yea, I guess simply hitting the quote button is just too easy and it confused me...

 

[TNASTYII]

good job, bro, and good luck in pct! it's hard to gauge your own gains, esp if you look in the mirror all the time - measuring up would be the best way. you'll for sure like the tren/pp.

hmm i didnt really get that euphoric feeling that everyone felt off of the t911 this morning. idk why? but about 20 mins after it dissolved i def wanted to hit the gym haha. its just that feeling like damn i wana hit the gym but its an off day.