Just send em my wayGL bro. I think I am done with orals as well.
Just send em my wayGL bro. I think I am done with orals as well.
28 weeks on blast?God, I love orals myself. Nice, thick and full after just a couple of days. That's one of the benefits of orals I feel. I'm currently running Trest, Epistane and Msten myself... Will do this for 6/8 weeks then bridge into a Test E, Tren E, and Mast E cycle for 20 weeks. Sh*t's gonna be off the charts.
That’s what I read. And he’s going from short and strong with lower sides to weaker and longer with higher sides. Going to be interesting.28 weeks on blast?
Yeah, looks like hes gonna cut, then he’s gonna cut some more.Epi and msten at the same time?
Yep, it can be done. I'm 4 weeks in so far. 30mg Msten, 30mg Epi...Epi and msten at the same time?
28 weeks is nothing.. I've done longer. The dosages are not going to be high anyway... Was thinking 300mg test e /wk, 400mg Tren E /wk with 300mg Mast and I'll probably throw in some Winstrol at the end. Maybe.28 weeks on blast?
Sounds gnarlyYep, it can be done. I'm 4 weeks in so far. 30mg Msten, 30mg Epi...
It's pretty good at the moment. Strength is up, and I feel full and round all day long... Not feeling any sides at the moment. I've had the odd spot here and there, but that's it. I've ran both on there own before with good results. Epi and Msten is defo a combo that can be done and if diet is in check and training on point you'll get good results.Sounds gnarly
Sounds like a stack that would give you cramps even in your eyes.It's pretty good at the moment. Strength is up, and I feel full and round all day long... Not feeling any sides at the moment. I've had the odd spot here and there, but that's it. I've ran both on there own before with good results. Epi and Msten is defo a combo that can be done and if diet is in check and training on point you'll get good results.
Yeah no kidding...Sounds like a stack that would give you cramps even in your eyes.
Even my last var run had me feeling crappy. That said I was on 10 weeks but at about week 5 I just didn't feel very well. Keep in mind I'm 38@RickyBlobby how come your done with orals? I am just curious .
Not even anavar anymore?
Yeah man good call,us as older guys no matter how we feel and look reality is we can't do things quite the same as we did in our younger days .Even my last var run had me feeling crappy. That said I was on 10 weeks but at about week 5 I just didn't feel very well. Keep in mind I'm 38
Like clockwork every 3-4 months and also if I’m experiencing anything and see a doc, I’ll always ask for additional stuff and make up a reason or just be honest. The reason I decided to all out do this blast was literally because how good my labs were late April. Cholesterol, liver, RBC/H&H. It was all stellar. It may not even be the Msten/Dmz but no matter what, it WAS making it worse and I feel better already off it.how often are you getting blood-work?
It’s like clockwork, right at 38 it started getting way harder for me. Mainly just lethargy and nausea. But now at 40, beginning week 2 I was already fucked. Must be a sign it’s no longer for me.Even my last var run had me feeling crappy. That said I was on 10 weeks but at about week 5 I just didn't feel very well. Keep in mind I'm 38
Try the injectable orals though and see if maybe you can make it work for longer...It’s like clockwork, right at 38 it started getting way harder for me. Mainly just lethargy and nausea. But now at 40, beginning week 2 I was already fucked. Must be a sign it’s no longer for me.
That’s the route I’m headed for now.Try the injectable orals though and see if maybe you can make it work for longer...
So be like Bostin Loyd and just take all the steroids on the market all the time and all the ancillaries too in mega high doses.
That way you never have to change anything
(I was watching a Bostin Loyd video and I am sorry)
GL bro. I think I am done with orals as well.
Yes. And he’s like 26.The guy is a moron, he actually believes he's not doing much harm yet he talks like rich Piana and hes what? Maybe 30 now
Thanks brotha it’s good to see you back!Oh hell - Mathersby has another log. Guess I'll have to get back to chatting on AM. I've just glanced through here - sucks about the orals...seems more of us are giving up on those..... You seemed to maintain good size and muscle for no gym time and I believe you said you "ate like a bird". Good solid spot to blast from - GL -
Of course it feels like nothing; we wouldn’t be using steroids if we didn’t enjoy it - who wouldn’t want to be full, pumped, strong & jacked year round? I would never come off if it was just a matter of how it felt.28 weeks is nothing.. I've done longer. The dosages are not going to be high anyway... Was thinking 300mg test e /wk, 400mg Tren E /wk with 300mg Mast and I'll probably throw in some Winstrol at the end. Maybe.
I mean if you’re trying to bulk you have to eat. Anything that inhibits food or sleep is out. You would get a lot bigger even natty housing footlong subs vs taking StenZine and fasting!It’s like clockwork, right at 38 it started getting way harder for me. Mainly just lethargy and nausea. But now at 40, beginning week 2 I was already fucked. Must be a sign it’s no longer for me.
Of course it feels like nothing; we wouldn’t be using steroids if we didn’t enjoy it - who wouldn’t want to be full, pumped, strong & jacked year round? I would never come off if it was just a matter of how it felt.28 weeks is nothing.. I've done longer. The dosages are not going to be high anyway... Was thinking 300mg test e /wk, 400mg Tren E /wk with 300mg Mast and I'll probably throw in some Winstrol at the end. Maybe.
I mean if you’re trying to bulk you have to eat. Anything that inhibits food or sleep is out. You would get a lot bigger even natty housing footlong subs vs taking StenZine and fasting!It’s like clockwork, right at 38 it started getting way harder for me. Mainly just lethargy and nausea. But now at 40, beginning week 2 I was already fucked. Must be a sign it’s no longer for me.
I feel great on 600npp 450test. Why in the hell do I need to blast toxic orals just to get a 20lb jump that I won’t keep all of? Rather feel good and enjoy the ride and put on quality muscle. I Feel 90% already day 3 off Msten. Dude I’ve ran so many oral cycles with no issue. Never in a million years would I think I’d feel like dirt barely into week 2 w Msten. I wasn’t even taking 20mg most days. Just 10. Oh well.Of course it feels like nothing; we wouldn’t be using steroids if we didn’t enjoy it - who wouldn’t want to be full, pumped, strong & jacked year round? I would never come off if it was just a matter of how it felt.
What I’m looking at is 6 months of living with trashed lipids, higher bp and overdriven kidneys, plus the time it takes to recover after the blast. You are living 3/4 of the year with significantly compromised blood values - that’s a recipe for poor longevity.
I know you’re gonna do whatever you wanna do, but that’s why I questioned it - carry on.
Also, sweetspot for Epistane is 60mg, feels same as 40 but better gains. 80 isn’t really any better but worse sides. But I don’t think you’d enjoy 60 on top of 30 Sten.
I mean if you’re trying to bulk you have to eat. Anything that inhibits food or sleep is out. You would get a lot bigger even natty housing footlong subs vs taking StenZine and fasting!
The gear game isn’t static I guess. Ongoing changes to biology and ability to tolerate compounds. DMZ effed me up last time I used it. I think I may be in same boat as you.I feel great on 600npp 450test. Why in the hell do I need to blast toxic orals just to get a 20lb jump that I won’t keep all of? Rather feel good and enjoy the ride and put on quality muscle. I Feel 90% already day 3 off Msten. Dude I’ve ran so many oral cycles with no issue. Never in a million years would I think I’d feel like dirt barely into week 2 w Msten. I wasn’t even taking 20mg most days. Just 10. Oh well.
Very cool. That’s how dr’s oughta be.So, my doctor who is ultra conservative was super cool about working with me on my self-admin TRT. He said my labs are fantastic and he will work with me to be sure I live a long healthy life. Pretty stoked
So much this ^Very cool. That’s how dr’s oughta be.
So naturally I bumped my dose of NPP and test up by a small 100mg eachSo much this ^
Now you done it!So naturally I bumped my dose of NPP and test up by a small 100mg each
Yes. And he’s like 26.
Sounds about right.My Doc actually works with athletes, all of them on PEDs which surprised me how much he knew. He said when you increase you year-round weekly dose from 200 to 400, you triple your risk of severe cardiovascular complications.
Yeah I mean from your body’s perspective that’s staying on blast year round. Maybe not compared to what they actually blast with, but compared to where you need to be to be reasonably healthy.My Doc actually works with athletes, all of them on PEDs which surprised me how much he knew. He said when you increase you year-round weekly dose from 200 to 400, you triple your risk of severe cardiovascular complications.
I’ve never even gone over 600mg Test for even 2 weeks. Benefits start at 200, and a 8-14 week blast of something else up to 600,, back down to 200 test until every damn lab is within range. I’m 40, I’d truly like to live another 40 yearsYeah I mean from your body’s perspective that’s staying on blast year round. Maybe not compared to what they actually blast with, but compared to where you need to be to be reasonably healthy.
There are guys I know, powerlifters, who are nowhere near the top of the sport and never will be, that just stay on 2cc/wk because they are scared to cruise for a bit. Why would you do that for years on end when you could be just as big & strong 2/3 of the time and live 20 years longer? You can still compete at same peak strength! I don’t get it.
I played with up to a gram of test when I was younger. Didn’t notice anything amazing to justify it. Found I like 250mg a week just as good. Run 8 week cycles and recover quicker.I’ve never even gone over 600mg Test for even 2 weeks. Benefits start at 200, and a 8-14 week blast of something else up to 600,, back down to 200 test until every damn lab is within range. I’m 40, I’d truly like to live another 40 years
300 and 600/700 makes very little difference to meI played with up to a gram of test when I was younger. Didn’t notice anything amazing to justify it. Found I like 250mg a week just as good. Run 8 week cycles and recover quicker.
Love Seth - gotten to chat with him a few times and he seems like a smart, good dude. However, he has his own ideas - and good for him ... maybe hes found what works best for HIM. But 2-3 grams of test is nuts, easy to control sides??? I'd be eating a Pfizer aromasin twice a day. And the guy also says nandrolone are worthless and people only use them bc the old timers did. Just staying- take it with a grain of saltAnybody ever watch any Seth spartan videos on YouTube? He says that he and his clients run 2-3 grams of test. Says it’s his best bulker and easiest to control sides. I always thought that’s a lot of test. But dude looks great.
If I’m being honest, I use nandrolones because the sides are non existent for me. I would just use Trest year round if I could, but I switch over to NPP just to change things up. The gains are underwhelming typically but i steadily put on muscle and don’t have any negatives but RBC increase.Love Seth - gotten to chat with him a few times and he seems like a smart, good dude. However, he has his own ideas - and good for him ... maybe hes found what works best for HIM. But 2-3 grams of test is nuts, easy to control sides??? I'd be eating a Pfizer aromasin twice a day. And the guy also says nandrolone are worthless and people only use them bc the old timers did. Just staying- take it with a grain of salt