Is my PH fake?

jiberish

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Usually I have been more of a forum stalker because there has always been other people who had the same questions as me and I had no need to post. But now I need to. So here goes.

I started a cycle of 1andro and 4ad 5 days ago (AMS hormone regulation kit) and so far I'm not impressed. I did my homework before the cycle. I am not going heavy but instead doing blood volume style training. But so far there has been little if any strength increase. But I would say some of that strength is from merely coming off my diet and increasing carbs again. Also I don't feel anything in terms of improved recovery. Today is my off day and everything is very sore and full of lactic acid from the increased workload. From what I read people say they can gain a good 10-15 pounds on a ph cycle. But I have gained maybe 1 (again probably increased carbs).

Am I taking the PH right? I will take 1ml of 1andro and 4ad about an hour before my workout. I take the liquid under the tongue. But I don't do it exactly like the bottle says (hold 30 seconds then swallow). But instead take it in 4 0.25 doses and hold for about a minute and swallow. This way I feel more is absorbed. Then straight after I finish taking 1andro. I repeat the same with the 4ad. The next dost is 8 hours later about 2-3 hours before bed.

Both of my PH's taste alot like toothpaste too 0_o

In regards to my diet. I am probably on about 3800-4000 calories with high protein and carbs.

From what I can tell I am doing things right. So why are my results piss poor?This is my first PH and I was really excited :grumpy:
 
about 5 days.

If these are mild. Will they have little effect on natural test levels? I really want to bust some strength platues.
 
about 5 days.

If these are mild. Will they have little effect on natural test levels? I really want to bust some strength platues.

Like gamer said, but these products are often ran for longer durations(around 6 weeks) simply because they are so mild. More of the slow and steady gains.
 
Gamer is right. You will have to be a little patient. This was my first cycle 2 1/2 years ago. I didn't notice strength gains till the beginning of the third week. This is a very mild PH cycle, but a good one to start with. I doubt you are going to see a 10 to 15lb weight gain. I don't know what you are eating, but you're calories sound about right for you're size. Don't set you're expectations to high for this cycle. But do know you are doing things right by starting with a mild PH.
 
yeah 1) 5 days is nothing and 2) those products are super weak

but a small strength boost in a few days regardless of the carb situation is a good thing, build up some momentum, i'm sure you can pull some results out of this just keep it up.

all the new 1-AD products are 1-DHEA (i believe?) and need to be dosed very high to get a good conversion to 1-Test. But because it's all nonmethyl you can do a high dose for a long time.
 
Wow your on day 5!!! Are you kidding me what did you expect it's not superdrol or m1t. Even on those super fast acting orals results are not guaranteed in that time frame.
Also I thought inremembee reading that the and 1 and 4 ad stuff was pretty weak. It's not like the old stuff. But I'm not sure. Never seen any logs.

But on most prohormones give them 2-3 weeks before you claim bunk.
 
yeah 1) 5 days is nothing and 2) those products are super weak

but a small strength boost in a few days regardless of the carb situation is a good thing, build up some momentum, i'm sure you can pull some results out of this just keep it up.

all the new 1-AD products are 1-DHEA (i believe?) and need to be dosed very high to get a good conversion to 1-Test. But because it's all nonmethyl you can do a high dose for a long time.

They sent me some free 1-AD(they are 1-dhea)

How high would you reccomend dosing? twice the dose? INstead of 2- 4?
 
Oh from the guide I read before, forget where it mentioned that it had a very fast life cycle in your body and only lasted a few hours. Also due to the short cycle period. I assumed it would have a quicker bang. Seems odd to sell a product that has a 4 week cycle where the effects are only noticeable towards the end. Thanks for the info
 
Well there is only enough product for a 4 week cycle.

Maybe next time I will buy two packs and take 50% more for a 6 week cycle
 
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